[squicken]

Have I mentioned lately that the Patriots are fucking cheap pieces of shit?

The Giants were stupid for trying to free up a spot on their 90 man roster. They really needed that 90th guy over making sure Ballard stayed with the team?

[snesfreak]

lol you all should be watching Conan right now

[bionic77]

Have I mentioned lately that the Patriots are fucking cheap pieces of shit?

I echo this sentiment.

[Striker]

The Giants were stupid for trying to free up a spot on their 90 man roster. They really needed that 90th guy over making sure Ballard stayed with the team?

I'm not overly worried. Loved Ballard's tough play and attitude, but his knee is fucked. Who knows if he'll be the same. And he was a replaceable player - the Giants lose Shockey, people wonder who they plug in next. Here comes 5th round pick Kevin Boss, fills in fine. Boss gets some concussions and runs to the biggest contract offer he gets, bolts to Oakland. What will Reese and Co. do now? Enter unknown, undrafted Jake Ballard, who gets 600 plus yards. Repeat the cycle.

Hopefully Bennett can be a capable receiver, though. Ballard was slow as molasses, but he was fairly sure-handed. At least we know he excels in blocking. Travis Beckum supposedly is recovering nicely - he was coming on toward the end.

[Nemesis121]

The Giants were stupid for trying to free up a spot on their 90 man roster. They really needed that 90th guy over making sure Ballard stayed with the team?

It suck losing Ballard but he had ACL and Reconstructive knee surgery, he has a long way to go, BB just being a PoS loser...

[squicken]

Well if he's not that big a piece then I guess it's no loss. Though I wouldn't totally discount BB's eye. The guy has won 3 SBs and lost 2 others in a 12 year span as a coach and GM. They are basically as dominant as The Cowboys from the 70s. Takes more than a little cheating to have that kind of success.

[goldlion054]

Well if he's not that big a piece then I guess it's no loss. Though I wouldn't totally discount BB's eye. The guy has won 3 SBs and lost 2 others in a 12 year span as a coach and GM. They are basically as dominant as The Cowboys from the 70s. Takes more than a little cheating to have that kind of success.

Yup, takes alot of cheating

[Talon]

Yeah, all 3 of you. Ho ho ho!

Sick burn, brahchaski.

[jakncoke]

Madagascar 3 was fucking awful. Pixar for life.

my gf chose it, average just like the rest of them.

[BigAT]

Well if he's not that big a piece then I guess it's no loss. Though I wouldn't totally discount BB's eye. The guy has won 3 SBs and lost 2 others in a 12 year span as a coach and GM. They are basically as dominant as The Cowboys from the 70s. Takes more than a little cheating to have that kind of success.

Those Haynesworth and Chad Johnson trades Belichick manged to pulled off last offseason sure were impressive.

[squicken]

All this incompetence in drafting and FA, I wonder how they keep winning.

[Talon]

It really is remarkable all things considered that they keep winning 11 or so games with a god awful defense.

[The Frankman]

The Giants were stupid for trying to free up a spot on their 90 man roster. They really needed that 90th guy over making sure Ballard stayed with the team?

The whole point was the Pats have like 2 amazing TEs and didn't they draft 1-2 good ones? There was no need for them to claim Ballard except be massive dicks.

[squicken]

It really is remarkable all things considered that they keep winning 11 or so games with a god awful defense.

The great teams always seem to have the good fortune of playing in bad divisions. The Colts had the AFCS with TEN and occasionally JAX showing any competency. The Patriots' division has almost always sucked. 49ers in the 80s had . . . Chris Everett and the LA Rams? Dallas in 70s played against a very bad NFCE. Steelers in the 70s really only had the Oilers in the late 70s.

It helps when you always get a few free wins and an automatic playoff berth b/c of your shitty division. The Ravens/Steelers dynamic has really helped NE imo, just as the 80s Lakers got the benefit of the much more difficult NBA East

[Nameless]

Granted it's not even training camp but I'm encouraged by Alexander. So much of being successful at the QB position comes from being completely familiar & comfortable with your system. Aside from being surrounded by more talent than any other point in his career, Smith has never had this type of continuity with an offense. I'm expecting him to make another leap this year.

[Colasante]

The whole point was the Pats have like 2 amazing TEs and didn't they draft 1-2 good ones? There was no need for them to claim Ballard except be massive dicks.

He's extremely cheap and was a good player. He won't be competing against Gronkowski and Hernandez when he's healthy- he'll be competing with Daniel Fells for the 3rd TE spot. They claimed him because he was a good, affordable player on the market. It's that simple.

[The Frankman]

He's extremely cheap and was a good player. He won't be competing against Gronkowski and Hernandez when he's healthy- he'll be competing with Daniel Fells for the 3rd TE spot. They claimed him because he was a good, affordable player on the market. It's that simple.

... so they were being massive dicks. Fully agree.

[Colasante]

... so they were being massive dicks. Fully agree.

It's not dickish to stock up on talent on a position that's vital to the team's offense, especially when Gronk and Hernandez both have injury concerns. It's not like the Patriots plan to play Ballard over $500,000 and have him take up a roster space just to spite the Giants- they clearly have plans for him in 2013 and probably beyond, given the way his free agency period lines up.

[Milchjon]

... so they were being massive dicks. Fully agree.

Giants gambled and got burned. Nobody's fault but their own.

[MechDX]

The great teams always seem to have the good fortune of playing in bad divisions. The Colts had the AFCS with TEN and occasionally JAX showing any competency. The Patriots' division has almost always sucked. 49ers in the 80s had . . . Chris Everett and the LA Rams? Dallas in 70s played against a very bad NFCE. Steelers in the 70s really only had the Oilers in the late 70s. It helps when you always get a few free wins and an automatic playoff berth b/c of your shitty division. The Ravens/Steelers dynamic has really helped NE imo, just as the 80s Lakers got the benefit of the much more difficult NBA East

I was going to say this. The AFC East has been shitty the past 3-7 years. As much crap as the AFC South gets the AFCE and NFCW are about in the same boat.

[Milchjon]

BB keepin it real:

Joe Vitt said today Bill Belichick faxed him about the possibility of joint practices during camp. Decision could come soon.

[DMczaf]

brb, just got a page.

can I use your phone real quick?

[Milchjon]

OK, back in a full on football mood. Random useless thoughts:

1. I really wish we saw a bit more of the Pats throwback. So hot.
2. Shame we couldn't hold on to Green-Ellis. That guy is a class act, and I wish him all the best with the Bengals.
3. Brandon Lloyd excites me. From everything I read he's doing great in camp, always keeping close to Brady. Basically a lot like Ocho but actually good.
4. Gronk might need to cool down a bit. He deserves to have fun and I know he's rehabbing, but when new topless dance pics float around on the internet every day, that doesn't seem too helpful.
5. Hope that Dennard doesn't get jailtime, he could be a steal, and we need any secondary guy we can get. Dowling still seems to need some time. I'm still putting all my hopes into McCourty, how he went from one of the best CBs in the league to arguably one of the worst is beyond me.
6. Vollmer's health problems suck. OL could be a bit iffy, and I really love the fact we a have a German on the team/in the league.
7. Training with the Saints? BB, you so crazy.

[Kave_Man]

So any of you yanks going to break down and watch some CFL football before the NFL season starts?

[yankeehater]

So any of you yanks going to break down and watch some CFL football before the NFL season starts?

No but I do watch some rena league football from time to time.

[TheLegendary]

Big news vita owners: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478310

Going by other surveys, that won't be an actual feature for two years, if it ever comes out.

[DeaconKnowledge]

No but I do watch some rena league football from time to time.

I tried to watch it: It's garbage. Zero defense to speak of.

[Fox318]

I tried to watch it: It's garbage. Zero defense to speak of.

Isn't that because the players play offence and defense?

[Talon]

brb, just got a page. can I use your phone real quick?

Only if I can borrow your laptop.

[yankeehater]

Going by other surveys, that won't be an actual feature for two years, if it ever comes out.

The free retail PS3 games survey was only like 2 months before E3. I wouldnt be surprised at all if they get this out before the holidays this year. This is a huge feature for them, they are going to want to use it to move vitas this holiday if it happens.

I tried to watch it: It's garbage. Zero defense to speak of.

Yeah there is no defense at all. You still see some great throws and catches though. If is a horrible substitue for NFL football though.

[Talon]

When one of the receivers gets a running start, you know the sport's a joke.

[Futurevoid]

Giants gambled and got burned. Nobody's fault but their own.

Pretty much. It was a calculated risk and Reese felt that Ballard would clear waivers based on the severity of the knee injury (teams don't usually pick up those types of players). Dick move or not, the Pats were within their rights to claim him and it didn't work out for the Giants.

I'm sad to see him go because he was such a pleasant surprise in 2012 but the folks acting as though Ballard was the second coming of Mark Bavaro and we lost some all star player need to come back down to reality. Striker is spot on in his assessment. He was a role player and his production IS as replaceable as Kevin Boss. Also, losing Ballard will have little to no effect in 2012 as he's not likely to play anyway. The roster spot was cleared to bring back Rocky Bernard which I'm not too broken up about to be frank. Bernard played well last year and is solid, solid dline depth.

Reading BBI, you'd think Hakeem Nicks was waived or something.

[DeaconKnowledge]

So what'd Buckethead get banned for?

[Striker]

As long as Bennett works hard and listens to Pope, they'll be OK. I haven't been the biggest fan of Travis "Becky" Beckum because of his consistency of getting dinged, but he did come on toward the end and looked good, and more importantly, Eli was targeting him more. Those two can be the 1-2 punch at TE and the third will probably be the Cincinnati kid, Robinson. Not sure he'll get any active days, though. If Beckum can't go Week 1 I imagine he's PUP'd and they have Pascoe, Hopkins or one of the other young guys step in for six weeks.

[Milchjon]

So what'd Buckethead get banned for?

Being able to post is probably too mainstream for him, so he went underground.

[cuevas, PhD.]

my gf chose it, average just like the rest of them.

Saw hunstman snow white last night, fucking awful.

[wienke]

Saw hunstman snow white last night, fucking awful.

My wife liked when she saw it but told me it was basically a chick flick since Kristen Stewart basically reprises her angsty teen role from Twilight.

[Futurevoid]

Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith have their contract extensions in Houston:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ct-extensions/

Back in early May, McNair said that contract extensions for coach Gary Kubiak and General Manager Rick Smith were in the works and now comes word that the work is finished. John McClain of the Houston Chronicle reports that the team has signed both men to extensions on Thursday. Neither the length of the deals nor the amount of money involved is known at this point.

[yankeehater]

Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith have their contract extensions in Houston: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ct-extensions/

#COACHESCASHINGCHECKS

[Nakazato]

The unibrowed prince has been born

On behalf of the Flacco family we’re proud to announce the arrival of 8lb Stephen Flacco. Dana, baby & Joe are all doing well

[squicken]

Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith have their contract extensions in Houston: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ct-extensions/

One good year b/c Peyton gets hurt and they get extended. Low expectations and a poop franchise. Kubiak is a great offensive coordinator but a dead average head coach, and Rick Smith is really lucky Wade Phillips makes the defensive picks now.

Colts will win that division this year. Everyone I tell that to says to eff off but it's going to happen

[Kave_Man]

The unibrowed prince has been born

Why did they have to tell us Joe Flacco is doing well? What did he do that would make us worry?

[Bolt Vanderhuge]

Why did they have to tell us Joe Flacco is doing well? What did he do that would make us worry?

Being the best QB in the NFL is a lot of pressure. Add the stress of a new child and that combo could break a man.

I'm just glad the delivering doctor wasn't Torrey Smith, last thing we needed was another Flacco to Smith drop.

[yankeehater]

One good year b/c Peyton gets hurt and they get extended. Low expectations and a poop franchise. Kubiak is a great offensive coordinator but a dead average head coach, and Rick Smith is really lucky Wade Phillips makes the defensive picks now. Colts will win that division this year. Everyone I tell that to says to eff off but it's going to happen

It is going to take Luck a year to adjust plus they are hurting for offensive talent. Texans got it this year.

[Milchjon]

It is going to take Luck a year to adjust plus they are hurting for offensive talent. Texans got it this year.

Why you disrespectin my man Blaine?

[Striker]

It is going to take Luck a year to adjust plus they are hurting for offensive talent. Texans got it this year.

I could see Tennessee making some kind of splash, we'll see. Hopefully Locker can get the start and go from there. I thought he looked okay last year for being a rookie.

[yankeehater]

I could see Tennessee making some kind of splash, we'll see. Hopefully Locker can get the start and go from there. I thought he looked okay last year for being a rookie.

I agree that the Titans will be better but barring injury I think the Texans are by far the best in that division.

[squicken]

I agree that the Titans will be better but barring injury I think the Texans are by far the best in that division.

If Schaub and Johnson stay healthy they'll coast. My guess is neither does since both are now injury prone and old. I love AJ, but he can no longer stay healthy. Rick Smith was downright negligent in not finding anyone to come in and be a legitimate #2 WR. They do have a potentially dominant defense, but like SF, they are due some injury regression.

But it's also based on how quickly I think IND will turn it around. Luck is good. No one has been more prepared to come out of college and run a pro offense. They drafted him some offensive talent, and kept Wayne. Mathis and Freeney are still there. I have no idea how good Pagano is, but getting rid of Caldwell and his staff can't be anything but good

[wienke]

An extension for Kubiak? lololololol

Apparently the Houston ownership has the shortest memory in the world.

[chuckddd]

This is why bh got banned? wtf is going on around here?

I lost a lot of money! I bet on snes to go down first.