Slayven
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(06-18-2012, 04:51 AM)

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#101

Next Batman reboot I hope they shift more toward The Brave and Bold.
Good Job Bob
(06-18-2012, 04:51 AM)

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#102

Originally Posted by NotTheGuyYouKill: View Post
If superhero films were realistic, they'd be dead in like a day.

Not necessarily, real life superhero Phoenix Jones is still alive.
Cameron122
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(06-18-2012, 04:57 AM)

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#103

Originally Posted by jvalioli: View Post
Choices are:
1. No more films
2. Reboot
3. More bad films in the series because (a) cast leaves (b) director leaves (c) last movie ruined the universe.
I believe the term used is broad strokes. Which I think is kinda silly because how are we supposed to know what is used and what isn't?
TheSeks
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(06-18-2012, 05:02 AM)

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#104

Originally Posted by HIGH DEF JEFF: View Post
Jean Grey
Professor X (at least until the credits ended)
Cyclops
Oh, yeah, Jean and Cyclops. But Jean's death makes sense with the Phoenix. She'd just come back as a zombie/Dark Phoenix anyway

And really, given it's a comic book movie: Who's to say Cyclops would be truly dead if they made an X4? They could just pull an "Oh, Jean tore me apart but I reanimated by pulling myself together. It's 'kay." like comic books do already.
CorvoSol
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(06-18-2012, 05:28 AM)

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#105

Originally Posted by HIGH DEF JEFF: View Post
Jean Grey
Professor X (at least until the credits ended)
Cyclops
To be fair, we all knew going into that that Jean Grey was going to die. It isn't a proper Phoenix Saga if she doesn't die. Granted it wasn't a proper Phoenix Saga at all, since they barely had any flaming Phoenix anywhere, but the death was still a given.
bangladesh
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(06-18-2012, 05:29 AM)

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#106

I'm fine with the idea because it gave us Nolan's Batman.
ShipTheCheese
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(06-18-2012, 05:31 AM)

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#107

The only case where I've found rebooting to be ridiculous is Spiderman. Rest is fine for me.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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(06-18-2012, 05:40 AM)

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#108

Originally Posted by Good Job Bob: View Post
Not necessarily, real life superhero Phoenix Jones is still alive.
It's only a matter of time. Wasn't he arrested for assault? Wait till he pepper sprays somebody with a friend and a knife.
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(06-18-2012, 05:45 AM)

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#109

Originally Posted by TheSeks: View Post
Oh, yeah, Jean and Cyclops. But Jean's death makes sense with the Phoenix. She'd just come back as a zombie/Dark Phoenix anyway

And really, given it's a comic book movie: Who's to say Cyclops would be truly dead if they made an X4? They could just pull an "Oh, Jean tore me apart but I reanimated by pulling myself together. It's 'kay." like comic books do already.
While the comic book audience will go for that, the more casual movie audience is not likely to flow with that so easily.
Future
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(06-18-2012, 05:52 AM)
#110

I don't know why more movies don't just go James bond style and just tell more stories. Q and moneypenny don't need a reboot reintroduction every third movie. Since it takes so long to make these movies, actors will change and there is no choice in that. But redoing origin stories is just lazy
ZoddGutts
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(06-18-2012, 05:57 AM)

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#111

Originally Posted by KOG: View Post
inspired. INSPIRED.

Maybe I do want a burton or shumacher batman again. MAYBE i'm just about tired of Nolan's batman?
Don't blame you. I want good action scenes in Batman. Nolan just ain't the right man. Also bring back Batman's theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6frI0Xjufg
and make Gotham look like well... Gotham, enough with the Chicago like city, so boring.
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OmniGamer
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(06-18-2012, 06:06 AM)

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#112

Originally Posted by border: View Post
Hank McCoy turns into the Beast in First Class.

Hank McCoy appears as a normal human being in X2.

First Class ignores even continuity established in the Singer films.
IMAGE INDUCER

In the comics, Beast and Nightcrawler used them quite a bit to blend in as normal looking human beings.

As for reboots....sometimes it's a good thing. It sucks to have characters locked by a movie(s) that didn't work. Or for other reasons...

For instance, X-Men....it pretty much kickstarted the Marvel movie run thats a decade+ long now. By now, we have all sorts of dimensional tearing shit going on with no problem. But in the climate of the first X movies development, they felt they needed to "ground" and "darken" the universe it would exist in. They wore black leather outfits and even made it a point to make it a joke in the movie (the "what would you prefer, yellow spandex?" line). Well now we have all kinds of colorful costumed heros and villains flying all over. Between the perception of what audiences would tolerate without dismissing it as cheesy, corny or kiddie, and its very small budget, the first X-Men movie, while doing some key things right, felt very limited and held back.

Once set, the series had to pretty much continue that tone and visual style.

I wouldn't mind a fresh take, larger than life scope and characters, and more ambitious storylines....sadly I'd want a PROPER Phoenix storyline fleshed over several movies(including a proper "good" Phoenix phase, and the long term manipulation of the Hellfire Club or similar catalyst, before transitioning...and with Jean as Dark Phoenix having an actual personality, and not just a silent zombie puppet of Magneto's)...,but sadly they're not going to do that for a very long time, so...

Days of Future Past/Sentinels please (bonus if Rachel Summers is in a sticks around), or Apocalypse==>Age of Apocalypse.

Either way, I don't want another X-Movie with humans taking up so much of the conflict or being in the crossfire. I wants some straight up mutant on mutant or Sentinel mayhem so their abilities don't have to be so muted and muzzled.
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(06-18-2012, 06:19 AM)

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#113

you mentioned Carnage OP, invalidates the rest of your arguments. I mean, carnage.
peterb0y
(06-18-2012, 06:22 AM)

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#114

Is it bad that after Nolan... I want a Zach Snyder Batman? Shit would be so stylish, look ripped right out of the comics.
DonMigs85
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(06-18-2012, 09:22 AM)

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#115

Why's OP banned all of a sudden?
ReiGun
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(06-18-2012, 09:31 AM)

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#116

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
Next Batman reboot I hope they shift more toward The Brave and Bold.
I hope the Bat family is more involved in the next set of films. Screw all this lone crusader stuff. I want Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, and whoever they can get in there.
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(06-18-2012, 09:31 AM)

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#117

Why was the OP banned, this is the most sensible thread of the week.

Superhero / comic book movies are such a joke, the whole genre just needs to disappear already...
MIMIC
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(06-18-2012, 09:40 AM)

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#118

Originally Posted by xbhaskarx: View Post
Why was the OP banned, this is the most sensible thread of the week.

Superhero / comic book movies are such a joke, the whole genre just needs to disappear already...
Check out his last post.

Better yet, just read the title of the thread that he posted in =p
xbhaskarx
(06-18-2012, 09:41 AM)

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#119

I'm on my phone...
MIMIC
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(06-18-2012, 09:47 AM)

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#120

Originally Posted by xbhaskarx: View Post
I'm on my phone...
I figured. :)

Also, wasn't it confirmed that Toby McGuire wouldn't appear in a 4th Spider-Man?
jaxword
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(06-18-2012, 09:50 AM)

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#121

Originally Posted by DonMigs85: View Post
Why's OP banned all of a sudden?
Saying Carnage was the best villain, that's why. *folds arms*
SuperEpicMan
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(06-18-2012, 10:10 AM)

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#122

Originally Posted by border: View Post
I'm pretty sure X-Men First Class is a reboot. I think it ignores continuity established in the previous X-Men films.
I read somewhere that in the sequel to first class, they are rumoured to do a kind of alternate reality plot which could make it so that the first class universe would exist separately to Xmen.
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(06-18-2012, 10:12 AM)

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#123

Originally Posted by the walrus: View Post
yup. And even the comic was far more brutal than the film was. (and I hated the film. though that was partly because it couldn't decide between being satire and playing it straight)
The film was a fucking travesty. Instead of a cautionary tale against Reals, it was just another generic superhero film.
SuperEpicMan
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(06-18-2012, 10:14 AM)

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#124

Also, in the case with Marvel properties, I actually don't mind characters being rebooted, as long as it is done to weave them into the cinematic universe, not necessarily to be in an avengers movie, just so that if an when the time comes, another team up movie occurs, they have another character to draw from.

I don't read comics, but id love to see a antihero version of the avengers, with loads of shady heroes in, like the punisher and daredevil.
jaxword
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(06-18-2012, 10:39 AM)

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#125

Originally Posted by SuperEpicMan: View Post
I don't read comics, but id love to see a antihero version of the avengers, with loads of shady heroes in, like the punisher and daredevil.
Read the Ultimate line.

"The Ultimates" is a very good series, but it goes through awful patches.

It has what you're looking for.

Specifically, "Ultimate Comics: Avengers " and "Ultimate Comics: Avengers 2" has Nick Fury run a black ops Avengers team, and indeed the Punisher gets recruited.
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(06-18-2012, 10:41 AM)

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#126

Originally Posted by SuperEpicMan: View Post
Also, in the case with Marvel properties, I actually don't mind characters being rebooted, as long as it is done to weave them into the cinematic universe, not necessarily to be in an avengers movie, just so that if an when the time comes, another team up movie occurs, they have another character to draw from.

I don't read comics, but id love to see a antihero version of the avengers, with loads of shady heroes in, like the punisher and daredevil.
Check out the Thunderbolts comics.



Dram
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(06-18-2012, 10:48 AM)
#127

Originally Posted by SuperEpicMan: View Post
I don't read comics, but id love to see a antihero version of the avengers, with loads of shady heroes in, like the punisher and daredevil.

Dark Avengers
http://marvel.wikia.com/Dark_Avengers_%28Earth-616%29

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