[bangai-o]

what are some interesting red green sorcery cards? i just want a few handy for a Burning Wish.

[The Technomancer]

what are some interesting red green sorcery cards? i just want a few handy for a Burning Wish.

Depends. What's the rest of your strategy?

[TheSeks]

Question: How the hell do I find the DotP decks in Magic Online? The whole folder system is a confusing mess and I can't seem to find them.

[Jarate]

Went to a Friday night magic, came too late though, my friend ended up winning a match with an event deck though

It was my first experience with that, all the older guys seemed cool though so that was nice. Next time I can come, hopefully I can play. I'll probably play with my red white control deck, although if my angel deck gets better I may play that

[kirblar]

Sanford Kelly explains the current Standard format:

"Just pick a top tier. Pick Delver."

[divisionbyzorro]

I wonder if we'll see any bans hit Standard this week.

Lots of speculation about Snapcaster Mage getting the cut, but I'm not so convinced. Trying to decide if I should go ahead and pick up a set now...

[Jarate]

Excuse my noob unless but what makes a delver deck a delver deck, I'm still new to this, so idk what it is

[Orayn]

Excuse my noob unless but what makes a delver deck a delver deck, I'm still new to this, so idk what it is

MTG Salvation primer on the UWx Delver deck archetype.

[The Technomancer]

That guide goes into depth but basically a Delver deck revolves around the card Delver of secrets, as well as other fliers, filtering, and control.

[An-Det]

I wonder if we'll see any bans hit Standard this week. Lots of speculation about Snapcaster Mage getting the cut, but I'm not so convinced. Trying to decide if I should go ahead and pick up a set now...

If anything I feel that it should be ponder. It guarantees turn 2 flipped Delver too easily and smooths out the other blue decks. I kinda want Snapcaster to go just so I can pick some up for Legacy cheaper though.

[Jarate]

That's why there were so many blue decks there

Blue is my least favorite card color anyway, and I don't like to use it in any of my decks so I can't make a delver deck. I'd be fucked if I played a delver deck with my two decks I have that are standard legal.

[kirblar]

That guide goes into depth but basically a Delver deck revolves around the card Delver of secrets, as well as other fliers, filtering, and control.

It's actually more the Snapcaster + Cantrips/P-Mana engine now, some decks have cut Delver.

[f0rk]

If anything I feel that it should be ponder. It guarantees turn 2 flipped Delver too easily and smooths out the other blue decks.

Think about it, Ponder can't do the reason a Delver flips on turn two ;p

[kirblar]

Think about it, Ponder can't do the reason a Delver flips on turn two ;p

If you kill Mage, the deck's consistency nosedives off a cliff, even w/ Ponder around.

[ultron87]

Killing Ponder instead of Snapcaster will be better for them from a PR perspective. Better to ban a common that is rotating out soon anyway than a rare that a lot of people spent a good amount of money on and is due to be around for awhile.

[divisionbyzorro]

Killing Ponder instead of Snapcaster will be better for them from a PR perspective. Better to ban a common that is rotating out soon anyway than a rare that a lot of people spent a good amount of money on and is due to be around for awhile.

My thinking exactly. Plus Ponder has already been banned in Modern, giving some degree of precedent. And Snapcaster fuels archetypes beyond Delver, and the rise of Delverless Delver means that banning Delver itself is probably not going to be as effective as previously thought.

[kirblar]

My thinking exactly. Plus Ponder has already been banned in Modern, giving some degree of precedent. And Snapcaster fuels archetypes beyond Delver, and the rise of Delverless Delver means that banning Delver itself is probably not going to be as effective as previously thought.

...Which archetypes exactly?

[divisionbyzorro]

...Which archetypes exactly?

Various flavors of U/B/x control, of course.

[kirblar]

Various flavors of U/B/x control, of course.

They only use him as a 2x for redundancy on their various spells though. He's not really integral.

Legacy control uses him as a 4x, but Legacy control is a very different animal.

[Jarate]

could anyone help me with some cards that would be needed for my angel deck I have. It's nothing special, but I'd like it to be a lot better, so help me with it dawgs.

Triumph of Ferocity X2 Cursebreak X1 Borderland Ranger X4 Herald of War X1 Goldnight Redeemer X3 Seraph of Dawn X2 Serra Angel X3 Defy Death X4 Archangel X2 Scroll of Avacyn X4 Somberwald Sage X2 Oblivion Ring X1 (gonna eventually get more of these) Vorinclex Voice of Hunger X1 Cathars Crusade X1 Entreat the Angels X1 Rampant Growth X3 (going to get another one soon) Banishing Strike X3 Emancipation Angel X2 Moonsilver Spear X1 Seraph Sanctuary X3 Forest X9 Plains X11

Obviously, it's not the best (or very good right now) but what could I do to help this deck

[red_13th]

I think Red needs a stupidly imbalanced banworthy creature for 1R. We have Goyf, SFM, Confident and Snapcaster, red's the only one left out, which is a shame.

[Hero]

Delver probably has to go in Standard. It's too good. One mana for a 3-powered evasive creature is too efficient and too powerful. It boggles my mind that Wild Nacatl was banned in Modern yet they allowed this to stick around for Standard. Should've been a 2/2 flier at most. Griselbrand is probably getting the axe in Legacy but I hope they kill Show and Tell with it.

It's actually more the Snapcaster + Cantrips/P-Mana engine now, some decks have cut Delver.

If you cut Delver of secrets then it's no longer a Delver deck. Delver relies on an aggressive creature / tempo strategy. UW without Delver is just some midrange planeswalker control.

I think Red needs a stupidly imbalanced banworthy creature for 1R. We have Goyf, SFM, Confident and Snapcaster, red's the only one left out, which is a shame.

Yeah, in an AMA on Reddit Maro (or maybe Aaron) flat out said that Snapcaster Mage should have been red but because it was the last invitational card ever and his original card was blue oriented they made it blue but wish they had made it red instead.

[TheSeks]

Question: How the hell do I find the DotP decks in Magic Online? The whole folder system is a confusing mess and I can't seem to find them.

Oh, nevermind. "Freeplay Current Core Decks" was where it was found (for now).

[divisionbyzorro]

Diabolic Revelation
Search your library for X cards and put them into your hand.
X3BB

[ultron87]

*black thing that would've been a Miracle card if it wasn't black (and was in the last set, obviously)*

[OnPoint]

Diabolic Revelation Search your library for X cards and put them into your hand. X3BB

That's pretty awful. Six mana to tutor for one card? Seven mana to tutor for two? I suppose the numbers get better at eight mana for three cards? Nah, not really. It's an awful card.

[divisionbyzorro]

It's another one of those terrible card that some EDH players will sink countless hours into trying to figure out how to break it.

[siddx]

Diabolic Revelation Search your library for X cards and put them into your hand. X3BB

Another mono black edh star.

[OnPoint]

I guess. And someone probably will. I'd rather have a Demonic Tutor in my pile, personally, but I could see how that could be more valuable late-game.

[divisionbyzorro]

It has pretty good value from new Liliana's ultimate, but putting a card in your deck that's only good if a planeswalker goes ultimate is one of the more terrible things you can do when brewing.

[Venfayth]

It has pretty good value from new Liliana's ultimate, but putting a card in your deck that's only good if a planeswalker goes ultimate is one of the more terrible things you can do when brewing.

Play it as a one-of with another tutor in your deck! That way you can use the tutor to bring it out once you've got liliana's ultimate out.

Best plan

[OnPoint]

What do you guys think the odds of hitting her ultimate is though? It seems like something that's going to be incredibly tough to pull off.

[The Technomancer]

What do you guys think the odds of hitting her ultimate is though? It seems like something that's going to be incredibly tough to pull off.

She's not as much of an immediate threat as a lot of other planeswalkers, so I could see an opponent not making killing her his top priority depending on the board state

[narcosis219]

She's pretty much a Dismember waiting to happen. I'd take care of it before I get one of my dudes dismembered

[y2dvd]

If only her emblems actually added to her -3 ability. That lies the problem, she's not much of anything at all imo asides from an expensive pre-ordered card.

[Shrinnan]

When is the pre-release or release of M13? I'm not looking to get back into Magic at the moment, but I do love going to the draft tournaments.

[f0rk]

Diabolic Revelation Search your library for X cards and put them into your hand. X3BB

Boo was hoping that art was for a Blightning reprint.

[Venfayth]

Went to Target yesterday to buy something, bought one pack as an impulse: pulled a cavern of souls

Went again today for something else, bought another pack: pulled an Avacyn.

I think my good luck might cause this to become a bad habit. Heh.

[narcosis219]

When is the pre-release or release of M13? I'm not looking to get back into Magic at the moment, but I do love going to the draft tournaments.

July 7-8 is the Prerelease.

The weekend following will be the launch parties

[divisionbyzorro]

July 7-8 is the Prerelease. The weekend following will be the launch parties

And of course us MTGO folk won't get it for another month.

Oh well; I won't have time to play in July anyway. I guess that's a good thing!

[Shrinnan]

July 7-8 is the Prerelease. The weekend following will be the launch parties

Thanks. It seems like new sets come out so fast that it's hard to keep in Magic, which is why I got out. I really only like playing Standard too, which is what my problem is. I still remember my M10 pre-release and launch.

[bangai-o]

does using transforming cards in a deck mean that card sleeves are mandatory for your deck? i hadnt heard about those cards until a minute ago.

[Leunam]

Nope, you can use handy cards like this:



They come randomly with boosters.

[divisionbyzorro]

Nope, you can use handy cards like this: They come randomly with boosters.

Yep. Rules require you to clearly mark which card is yours. Some people check a box, or write a card name, or scribble out everything but the card in particular. Or, my favorite, commission an expensive alter:

[An-Det]

That looks sweet. Might have to get my friend to alter a few now, scribbling on the checkbox suddenly seems so uninteresting.

[narcosis219]

Mindclaw Shaman 4r Creature - Viashino Shaman Uncommon When Mindclaw Shaman enters the battlefield, target opponent reveals his or her hand. You may cast an instant or sorcery card from it without paying its mana cost.

Oh my god this sounds like SO MUCH FUN. I'm totally gonna make a W/R flicker deck and troll the hell out of everyone. This and Zealous Conscripts/Act of Treason and stuff.

Gem of Becoming 3 Artifact Common 3, {T}, Sacrifice Gem of Becoming: Search your library for an Island card, a Swamp card, and a Mountain card. Reveal those cards and put them into your hand. Then shuffle your library.

Interesting ramp... but you have to survive to turn 4 to use it. Meh

[divisionbyzorro]

Interesting ramp... but you have to survive to turn 4 to use it. Meh

It doesn't actually ramp though. So it's six colorless to put three lands into your hand? Meh.

Also: http://theboozecube.blogspot.com/p/c...oiler.html?m=1

[The Technomancer]

Man the 2013 packaging is slick as fuck. I think I'm going to buy a fat pack.

[y2dvd]

Where can I see it?

[red_13th]

Man the 2013 packaging is slick as fuck. I think I'm going to buy a fat pack.

Agreed, it looks amazing.