The Chosen One
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(06-18-2012, 12:28 PM)

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#8301

Originally Posted by Puddles: View Post
It's really a shame the Celtics couldn't clamp down for one more game. On their own fucking home court.

I already hate that franchise. Blowing the best chance anyone's had to knock Bron out of the playoffs is downright unforgivable. The nightmare could have ended then and there. Instead we need OKC to win 3 out of 4, which isn't impossible, but doesn't seem likely.
Ugh... it's the first time Lebron has faced an elimination game and actually survived...

But yeah, the Celts could beat Wade and Lebron, and half-Bosh. But they can't beat the Heat with a full-Bosh.

Lebron is going to get the Finals MVP, but it's a shame Bosh will still be vastly underrated on this team. Bosh is the one who basically saved their season, especially with Wade still playing mostly terribad.

If OKC can get a convincing win in game 4, then we might still have a series. But I just don't see how that's possible considering how bad the Heat played today and still won....
Puddles
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#8302

Originally Posted by The Chosen One: View Post
Lebron is going to get the Finals MVP, but it's a shame Bosh will still be vastly underrated on this team.
It should really go to Battier at this point.
MorisUkunRasik
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(06-18-2012, 12:59 PM)

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#8303

Originally Posted by Blackace: View Post
this thread is getting nasty... going to leave the warning about insults and steady trolling here.. ignore it at your own peril..
Looks like I chose a good day not to check in
iamshadowlark
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(06-18-2012, 01:12 PM)

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#8304

Originally Posted by The Chosen One: View Post
Ugh... it's the first time Lebron has faced an elimination game and actually survived...

But yeah, the Celts could beat Wade and Lebron, and half-Bosh. But they can't beat the Heat with a full-Bosh.

Lebron is going to get the Finals MVP, but it's a shame Bosh will still be vastly underrated on this team. Bosh is the one who basically saved their season, especially with Wade still playing mostly terribad.

If OKC can get a convincing win in game 4, then we might still have a series. But I just don't see how that's possible considering how bad the Heat played today and still won....
You won't find any heat fan undervaluing bosh.
masud
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Originally Posted by Blackace: View Post
this thread is getting nasty... going to leave the warning about insults and steady trolling here.. ignore it at your own peril..
End of days son, end of days...
CherryWoodFuton
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Damn this thread was almost in the verge of fuck. Don't ban Puddles though please :)
Dark FaZe
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(06-18-2012, 02:15 PM)

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I couldn't believe Miami won with their fuckball 2k cheese style last night. Literally almost never fired off a mid-range jumpshot, just threw their bodies in the paint the entire night.

There's no chance the Thunder lose the next game.
iamshadowlark
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(06-18-2012, 02:21 PM)

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Originally Posted by Dark FaZe: View Post
I couldn't believe Miami won with their fuckball 2k cheese style last night. Literally almost never fired off a mid-range jumpshot, just threw their bodies in the paint the entire night.

There's no chance the Thunder lose the next game.
Good Job. Good effort.
scorcho
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(06-18-2012, 02:24 PM)

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Originally Posted by Dark FaZe: View Post
I couldn't believe Miami won with their fuckball 2k cheese style last night. Literally almost never fired off a mid-range jumpshot, just threw their bodies in the paint the entire night.

There's no chance the Thunder lose the next game.
it's hard to understand how Miami won by going for high % shots in the paint?
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Originally Posted by Dark FaZe: View Post
I couldn't believe Miami won with their fuckball 2k cheese style last night. Literally almost never fired off a mid-range jumpshot, just threw their bodies in the paint the entire night.

There's no chance the Thunder lose the next game.
I'd agree normally, but it's clear Brooks is clueless about who to play and who gives us the best chance to win, and this is the worst I've seen OKC looks since well before the playoffs. Definitely the worst back-to-back performances I've seen all year.

Ibaka only played 22 minutes, and one of the biggest problems OKC has was rim protection. Fisher has been playing far too much, and Collison should be getting Perk's minutes (although Perk had a decent game last night).

And when KD got his 4th foul, it was idiotic to sit YNB to "teach him a lesson," or whatever. We went 5 minutes without our two best scorers on the floor and coughed up a 10-point lead. Not sure if Brooks got the memo or not, but this is the NBA Fucking Finals and you play to win the games.

I think the Thunder "should" win Tuesday, but my expectations are incredibly low at this point.
effzee
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(06-18-2012, 02:27 PM)

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Not a big fan of Westbrook, but agree with most analysts that Brooks took Westbrook out for no reason. Harden was struggling. Durant was sitting cause of foul trouble (CONSPIRACY!) and you also bench the only other offensive option/weapon you have?

In those 5 min that Westbrook and Durant both sat, the Heat climbed right back.
iamshadowlark
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(06-18-2012, 02:30 PM)

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Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
I'd agree normally, but it's clear Brooks is clueless about who to play and who gives us the best chance to win, and this is the worst I've seen OKC looks since well before the playoffs. Definitely the worst back-to-back performances I've seen all year.

Ibaka only played 22 minutes, and one of the biggest problems OKC has was rim protection. Fisher has been playing far too much, and Collison should be getting Perk's minutes (although Perk had a decent game last night).

And when KD got his 4th foul, it was idiotic to sit YNB to "teach him a lesson," or whatever. We went 5 minutes without our two best scorers on the floor and coughed up a 10-point lead. Not sure if Brooks got the memo or not, but this is the NBA Fucking Finals and you play to win the games.

I think the Thunder "should" win Tuesday, but my expectations are incredibly low at this point.
I don't want to come of as cocky or whatever(2011 never forget) but the Thunder have to win next game. For obvious reasons.
Outdoor Miner
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(06-18-2012, 02:31 PM)

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I have to say they do appear to be terribly coached. Is Brooks normally this awful? He looks like he's in way over his head.
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Originally Posted by iamshadowlark: View Post
I don't want to come of as cocky or whatever(2011 never forget) but the Thunder have to win next game. For obvious reasons.
I agree.

Originally Posted by Outdoor Miner:
I have to say they do appear to be terribly coached. Is Brooks normally this awful? He looks like he's in way over his head.
His adjustments played a big role in beating the Spurs, but he has failed to make some obvious adjustments against the Heat IMO, especially in his insistence to play Perkins and Fisher heavy minutes.

Our go-to lineup against Miami should be:

YNB
Sefolosha
Harden
Durant
Ibaka

Can't recall if I've seen that lineup once this series.
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iamshadowlark
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(06-18-2012, 02:32 PM)

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Originally Posted by Outdoor Miner: View Post
I have to say they do appear to be terribly coached. Is Brooks normally this awful? He looks like he's in way over his head.
He's facing Spo. After going thru COTY and Pop. How hard can it be?
twinturbo2
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(06-18-2012, 02:38 PM)

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Originally Posted by Emwitus: View Post
This made me giggle.
ph33nix
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(06-18-2012, 02:41 PM)

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#8317

Durant is still shooting like 57% and is averaging 31 a game. It's pretty clear we have no idea what to do with him

OKC's other guys will get on fire next game, I sense it
Dark FaZe
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Originally Posted by scorcho: View Post
it's hard to understand how Miami won by going for high % shots in the paint?
There's a difference between attacking the basket and literally only attacking inside or from 3 the entire game. That's NBA 2k basketball. You shouldn't be able to win basketball games without some degree of an inbetween game due to the predictability of the Heats offense. Especially now in the NBA with zone defenses, the Thunder should have shut down anything on the inside and lived and died by Heat jumpshots.

Brooks never gave a single fuck to adjust.


Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
I'd agree normally, but it's clear Brooks is clueless about who to play and who gives us the best chance to win, and this is the worst I've seen OKC looks since well before the playoffs. Definitely the worst back-to-back performances I've seen all year.

Ibaka only played 22 minutes, and one of the biggest problems OKC has was rim protection. Fisher has been playing far too much, and Collison should be getting Perk's minutes (although Perk had a decent game last night).

And when KD got his 4th foul, it was idiotic to sit YNB to "teach him a lesson," or whatever. We went 5 minutes without our two best scorers on the floor and coughed up a 10-point lead. Not sure if Brooks got the memo or not, but this is the NBA Fucking Finals and you play to win the games.

I think the Thunder "should" win Tuesday, but my expectations are incredibly low at this point.
I was confused by Westbrook getting sat. He was in control most of the game and shot well over 50%. If anything we needed more "why not" rather than the reserved overthinking kid we saw last night.
Puddles
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#8319

Originally Posted by CherryWoodFuton: View Post
Damn this thread was almost in the verge of fuck. Don't ban Puddles though please :)
I haven't even insulted anyone in this thread. My posts have been extremely civil TBH.
iamshadowlark
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
Durant is still shooting like 57% and is averaging 31 a game. It's pretty clear we have no idea what to do with him

OKC's other guys will get on fire next game, I sense it
Yea when the woman last nite asked LBJ post-game about whats the best strategy to guard him he couldn't do anything but laugh with an expression like "bitch you tell me".
LegendofJoe
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I missed all but the last 4 minutes of the game last night. I was just looking over the stats to try and get a feel for how the game went and I was really shocked at how often the Heat got to the FT line. Was the officiating bad or did the Thunder just not adjust to the Heat attacking the rim?
iamshadowlark
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(06-18-2012, 02:47 PM)

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Quote:
The Heat allowed the Thunder to tally 24 fast break points in Game 1. Games 2 and 3? 23 points combined
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OKC recorded just 11 assists on their 33 field goals. That's the lowest assisted percentage (33%) for OKC this season
These are two damning stats for OKC(and of course last game's freethrows). They don't mean much in regards to next games but they have to adjust, which they are perfectly capable of doing.

I just don't think we are out of the water yet.
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Originally Posted by Puddles: View Post
I haven't even insulted anyone in this thread. My posts have been extremely civil TBH.
Blatant, constant trolling tends to get annoying
KingGondo
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Originally Posted by LegendofJoe: View Post
I missed all but the last 4 minutes of the game last night. I was just looking over the stats to try and get a feel for how the game went and I was really shocked at how often the Heat got to the FT line. Was the officiating bad or did the Thunder just not adjust to the Heat attacking the rim?
The Heat were attacking the rim, but there were some phantom calls as well.

Nothing too egregious.

I'm more impressed than anything that the Heat made so many of their FTs. You have to give them credit.
Vire
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(06-18-2012, 02:52 PM)

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Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
I'd agree normally, but it's clear Brooks is clueless about who to play and who gives us the best chance to win, and this is the worst I've seen OKC looks since well before the playoffs. Definitely the worst back-to-back performances I've seen all year.

Ibaka only played 22 minutes, and one of the biggest problems OKC has was rim protection. Fisher has been playing far too much, and Collison should be getting Perk's minutes (although Perk had a decent game last night).

And when KD got his 4th foul, it was idiotic to sit YNB to "teach him a lesson," or whatever. We went 5 minutes without our two best scorers on the floor and coughed up a 10-point lead. Not sure if Brooks got the memo or not, but this is the NBA Fucking Finals and you play to win the games.

I think the Thunder "should" win Tuesday, but my expectations are incredibly low at this point.
The problem with Collison is that he's a foul machine. He get's in foul trouble almost the instant you put him in.

Fisher played pretty well on the offensive end as well, with a four point play and another three... his defense though is suspect.

What I'm more amazed by than anything is the Thunder's inability to hit their foul shots. They usually are on point with that stuff. That really hurt them last night.
Last edited by Vire; 06-18-2012 at 02:55 PM.
iamshadowlark
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(06-18-2012, 02:54 PM)

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Originally Posted by Vire: View Post
The problem with Collison is that he's a foul machine. He get's in foul trouble almost the instant you put him in.

Fisher played pretty well on the offensive end as well, with a four point play and another three... his defense though is suspect.
Ain't nothin suspect about it. Im pretty sure I could give you 10 on him.
LegendofJoe
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#8327

Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
The Heat were attacking the rim, but there were some phantom calls as well.

Nothing too egregious.

I'm more impressed than anything that the Heat made so many of their FTs. You have to give them credit.
Gotchya, the Heat's shooting streak at the stripe has been impressive. The Thunder on the otherhand, not so much. I'm pretty confident that isn't going to continue happening though. Hopefully, it'll turn around on Tuesday because I want to see a 7 game series.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Originally Posted by Outdoor Miner: View Post
I have to say they do appear to be terribly coached. Is Brooks normally this awful? He looks like he's in way over his head.
Brooks awful? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZowK0NAvig

That's fuckin crazy, man. I think there's more than a resemblance here
ph33nix
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Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
The Heat were attacking the rim, but there were some phantom calls as well.

Nothing too egregious.

I'm more impressed than anything that the Heat made so many of their FTs. You have to give them credit.
Yeah I would say that is the strangest part of this series. Although I'm not sure how to feel----we're so used to seeing the Heat have these terribad stretches at the FT line that it's become the custom. But there was a stretch in the regular season when they were this good too and Wade had hit like 24 straight.

maybe the heat busted out that noah arc machine again
Vire
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(06-18-2012, 02:58 PM)

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I can't believe we won with Chalmers shooting 1-8 and Bosh 3-12...

Hope they get their shit together in a hurry.
ph33nix
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I still think Brooks should and might stick KD on Chalmers more. But the next game is so far :(
ToxicAdam
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(06-18-2012, 03:03 PM)

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If the Heat win this year, it's going to really temper my enjoyment of the playoffs. Much like the way the Yankees won in 2008. It's not nearly as fun watching them fail in the playoffs anymore.
Trey
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(06-18-2012, 03:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vire: View Post
I can't believe we won with Chalmers shooting 1-8 and Bosh 3-12...

Hope they get their shit together in a hurry.
Thunder shot like shit from the free throw line and Durant put himself into foul trouble again (even if the fourth foul was weak). So believe it.

Both teams need to play better. LeBron has gotten it going two games to Durant's one. That's been the difference.
ph33nix
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(06-18-2012, 03:07 PM)

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wrong thread
CrazyDogg77
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(06-18-2012, 03:12 PM)

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#8335

I still think OKC wins this series. Am I alone here?
Outdoor Miner
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(06-18-2012, 03:16 PM)

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#8336

Originally Posted by CrazyDogg77: View Post
I still think OKC wins this series. Am I alone here?
50/50 right now. The only thing certain is this thing is going to 7 games.
KingGondo
(06-18-2012, 03:16 PM)

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Originally Posted by ph33nix:
Yeah I would say that is the strangest part of this series. Although I'm not sure how to feel----we're so used to seeing the Heat have these terribad stretches at the FT line that it's become the custom. But there was a stretch in the regular season when they were this good too and Wade had hit like 24 straight.

maybe the heat busted out that noah arc machine again
The bottom line is that neither team has played that great in games 2 or 3, but the Thunder have played worse than the Heat in both as well.

I still think OKC will win game 4, but we've left ourselves no margin for error. If LeBron goes HAM like he did in game 6 against Boston and they hit outside shots, it won't matter how well we play and the series will be over.

I'm mainly pissed because we have the tools to convincingly beat Miami, but those tools are not being effectively utilized.

It's one thing if you're simply losing to a superior team, but the main factor in this series is that OKC has completely shit the bed in games 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by CrazyDogg77:
I still think OKC wins this series. Am I alone here?
We're in better shape than we were after the first two games against San Antonio, but that isn't saying much.
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Brettison
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(06-18-2012, 03:18 PM)

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I still say Harden totally blew last night, and he quiet possibly cost the game for OKC by himself.
Puddles
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#8339

Originally Posted by LegendofJoe: View Post
I missed all but the last 4 minutes of the game last night. I was just looking over the stats to try and get a feel for how the game went and I was really shocked at how often the Heat got to the FT line. Was the officiating bad or did the Thunder just not adjust to the Heat attacking the rim?
The officiating was bad. Phantom calls against the Thunder, and they allowed Bosh to get away with some "blocks" that had definitely contact.
ToxicAdam
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(06-18-2012, 03:24 PM)

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Originally Posted by CrazyDogg77: View Post
I still think OKC wins this series. Am I alone here?
It's kind of cliche, but I think whoever wins the next game, wins the series.

Either way, I see it going 6.
ph33nix
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Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
It's one thing if you're simply losing to a superior team, but the main factor in this series is that OKC has completely shit the bed in games 2 and 3.
you're not exactly playing against scrubs. you're playing against a team that was 2 wins from the finals last year. I didn't get to say I felt Miami was the superior team but lost because LeBron shit the bed, I had to take it in the ass and hear this "team this 4th quarter that" shit

they play the best D you've seen all playoffs and have the best all around player. you shouldn't sound so shocked
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Originally Posted by Outdoor Miner: View Post
The only thing certain is this thing is going to 7 games.
I believe the most likely result by simple odds is Heat in six.
Dark FaZe
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(06-18-2012, 03:33 PM)

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Shitting the bed is what the Lakers did against the Thunder when they could have been up 3-1, I wouldn't say the Thunder shit the bed, they just had terrible coaching and an overall bad gameplan.
ToyMachine228
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(06-18-2012, 03:37 PM)

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Originally Posted by Vire: View Post
I can't believe we won with Chalmers shooting 1-8 and Bosh 3-12...

Hope they get their shit together in a hurry.
And Wade was 8-22. I highly doubt these three will combine for such a poor shooting night again this series.
twinturbo2
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(06-18-2012, 03:45 PM)

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The Heat were in this exact position last year.

They can't get complacent now. Win one more game at home, and they'll be in great shape.
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Originally Posted by ph33nix: View Post
you're not exactly playing against scrubs. you're playing against a team that was 2 wins from the finals last year. I didn't get to say I felt Miami was the superior team but lost because LeBron shit the bed, I had to take it in the ass and hear this "team this 4th quarter that" shit

they play the best D you've seen all playoffs and have the best all around player. you shouldn't sound so shocked
I've given Miami a lot of credit, but it's undeniable that OKC has been the victim of some weird flukes in the first three games.

- Battier shooting over 73% from 3
- KD getting 5 fouls called on him 2 games in a row, after it only happening 3 times in the regular season
- Miami shooting far above their season average at the FT line for 2 games
- OKC shooting far below their season average at the FT line for 2 games
- Miami winning in spite of shooting an atrocious percentage from range in game 3

Miami's D has been OK, but I'd mainly say that they've dragged us down into a fuckball style of play and Brooks has utterly failed to put an effective lineup on the floor in games 2 or 3. Watching that horrible 4th quarter last night, it wasn't like, "Wow, Miami's defense is killing it!" It was more like watching two wounded dogs without teeth gnaw each other to death. Just kinda sad.
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Originally Posted by ToyMachine228: View Post
And Wade was 8-22. I highly doubt these three will combine for such a poor shooting night again this series.
Wade has been bad through the entire playoffs...
iamshadowlark
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Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
I've given Miami a lot of credit, but it's undeniable that OKC has been the victim of some weird flukes in the first three games.

- Battier shooting over 73% from 3
- KD getting 5 fouls called on him 2 games in a row, after it only happening 3 times in the regular season
- Miami shooting far above their season average at the FT line for 2 games
- OKC shooting far below their season average at the FT line for 2 games
- Miami winning in spite of shooting an atrocious percentage from range in game 3

Miami's D has been OK, but I'd mainly say that they've dragged us down into a fuckball style of play and Brooks has utterly failed to put an effective lineup on the floor in games 2 or 3. Watching that horrible 4th quarter last night, it wasn't like, "Wow, Miami's defense is killing it!" It was more like watching two wounded dogs without teeth gnaw each other to death. Just kinda sad.
Thats usually the product of two great defenses. See MIA vs IND, or BOS, or CHI.

Honestly even with battier's shooting we are still getting around our average contributions from our role players.
ph33nix
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(06-18-2012, 03:56 PM)

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Yeah Battier has been strangely money. But he's just making it up for all the shit he missed earlier in the year lol
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Originally Posted by KingGondo: View Post
I've given Miami a lot of credit, but it's undeniable that OKC has been the victim of some weird flukes in the first three games.

- Battier shooting over 73% from 3
- KD getting 5 fouls called on him 2 games in a row, after it only happening 3 times in the regular season
- Miami shooting far above their season average at the FT line for 2 games
- OKC shooting far below their season average at the FT line for 2 games
- Miami winning in spite of shooting an atrocious percentage from range in game 3

Miami's D has been OK, but I'd mainly say that they've dragged us down into a fuckball style of play and Brooks has utterly failed to put an effective lineup on the floor in games 2 or 3. Watching that horrible 4th quarter last night, it wasn't like, "Wow, Miami's defense is killing it!" It was more like watching two wounded dogs without teeth gnaw each other to death. Just kinda sad.
The Durant fouls aren't weird to me- he's actually fouling. He's also playing Lebron whose playing extremely aggressively.