[narcosis219]

Thanks to WanderingWind's incredible generosity, my friend and I have been playing magic very often. He has a really annoying red deck where Uncanny Speed is the most annoying thing ever. I'm thoroughly enjoying my green deck. It takes me a bit longer to get all my creatures out, but it's worth it most of the time if my roomate doesn't finish me first. Green is definitely my play style.. I'm on the prowl for four Wolfir Silverhearts. We went to our local comic/game shop to buy some basic lands and we overheard a fellow player saying it's worth it to buy a booster box because you usually always get back what you put into it from the valuable cards you find. Well, if that's true, we'd like to buy a booster box so we can find some rares, but also sell some in order to recoup some or all of the cost of the booster box. We're not sure which set to buy. I pretty much have all the commons/most of the uncommons I will ever need from Avacyn Restored because of WanderingWind. Should we buy a Innistrad (~$91), Dark Ascension (~$97), Avacyn Restored (~$97) booster box or wait a few days to buy a Magic2013 booster box (Not sure of the $)?

From a purely financial view, a box isn't a very smart way to hope to make financial gains or break even. You will almost always come up short in terms of the value of rares that you find.

Still though, booster packs are super fun to open. If you like simply opening them, then go ahead and get a box of them. Remember though, that you shouldn't be doing it for the money. Packs are great for drafting from or playing another limited format, and for some people, the feeling they get from simply opening them is worth the price of admission.

So if you want to play it smart money wise, never buy a single booster pack and buy only single cards. Math that shows you will lose the majority of the time. This is because most rares in a set are junk. Unless you are going to devote a huge chunk of your time trading these junk cards upwards (sometimes this isn't even possible), then you are stuck with rares that will sell for $0.10 a piece in bulk. Average booster pack in a box costs about $2.60 so you're getting back $3.60 if you happen to open all junk in a single box. Add a few bucks for some decent rares and about $20 of mythics, and you're still down about $50-70 dollars per box. Of course, there are times when you get lucky and open an expensive mythic ($30+), but those are few and far between.

If you're like me and many other people, we feel that buying a box and cracking open those packs is super fun, and there is a small chance of opening what we really want. Really though, those money rares are a nice bonus if we happen to get them. Drafting/Sealed/Mini-master are fun in their own way and I think they are worth the price of admission.

[zethren]

Except when you're me, and you typically open at least one foil planeswalker per set. :D
/brag.

No but I agree. I don't open boxes for the money, I do it because I love the game and it's fun. But for M13 the value just isn't close to what it generally is, and money is tight now that I'm moving into my own place, so I'll just be buying singles and a few packs here and there.

[VindictiveGnome]

From a purely financial view, a box isn't a very smart way to hope to make financial gains or break even. You will almost always come up short in terms of the value of rares that you find. Still though, booster packs are super fun to open. If you like simply opening them, then go ahead and get a box of them. Remember though, that you shouldn't be doing it for the money. Packs are great for drafting from or playing another limited format, and for some people, the feeling they get from simply opening them is worth the price of admission. So if you want to play it smart money wise, never buy a single booster pack and buy only single cards. Math that shows you will lose the majority of the time. This is because most rares in a set are junk. Unless you are going to devote a huge chunk of your time trading these junk cards upwards (sometimes this isn't even possible), then you are stuck with rares that will sell for $0.10 a piece in bulk. Average booster pack in a box costs about $2.60 so you're getting back $3.60 if you happen to open all junk in a single box. Add a few bucks for some decent rares and about $20 of mythics, and you're still down about $50-70 dollars per box. Of course, there are times when you get lucky and open an expensive mythic ($30+), but those are few and far between. If you're like me and many other people, we feel that buying a box and cracking open those packs is super fun, and there is a small chance of opening what we really want. Really though, those money rares are a nice bonus if we happen to get them. Drafting/Sealed/Mini-master are fun in their own way and I think they are worth the price of admission.

First, I completely agree with the thrill of opening up a pack of cards and not knowing what's inside. It's the main secret reason I want to buy a fat pack or booster box. Since I began playing Magic a few days ago, I started feeling like a kid again. Haha. I want to collect all the cards and have the best deck just like when I was younger playing Pokemon. The recouping of money would have just helped. I'll talk to my roommate and see if he wants to split a fat pack or booster box just to get new cards. If there's no financial reward to be had, then I'd like to go with M13. The cards seem really fun, especially that Thragtusk.

[ultron87]

Why is it that so many people approach all the Magic product they buy and events they play in from such a stringent expected value perspective? It isn't a flawed way to approach things, but it just seems so much more prevalent and exposed in Magic than in any other hobby. Is it just that it is generally pretty expensive and thus you want to get the most for your money?

[Keru_Shiri]

Thanks to WanderingWind's incredible generosity, my friend and I have been playing magic very often. He has a really annoying red deck where Uncanny Speed is the most annoying thing ever. I'm thoroughly enjoying my green deck. It takes me a bit longer to get all my creatures out, but it's worth it most of the time if my roomate doesn't finish me first. Green is definitely my play style.. I'm on the prowl for four Wolfir Silverhearts. We went to our local comic/game shop to buy some basic lands and we overheard a fellow player saying it's worth it to buy a booster box because you usually always get back what you put into it from the valuable cards you find. Well, if that's true, we'd like to buy a booster box so we can find some rares, but also sell some in order to recoup some or all of the cost of the booster box. We're not sure which set to buy. I pretty much have all the commons/most of the uncommons I will ever need from Avacyn Restored because of WanderingWind. Should we buy a Innistrad (~$91), Dark Ascension (~$97), Avacyn Restored (~$97) booster box or wait a few days to buy a Magic2013 booster box (Not sure of the $)?

Out of the ones you listed, Dark Ascension is the only one I wouldn't get. For you, I would recommend M13, since you probably won't need to worry about financial returns, and instead focus on building a decent cardpool for deckbuilding, and this is a good way to get alot of the core spells. You can also potentially build up a nice stock if M10 Dual lands. And while there may not be a lot of chase rares, even pulling one Ajanni, Lilliana, or Thundermaw will likely get you the trading power you need to score things like Thragtusk.

If not M13, then I recommend Innistrad. As others in this thread have pointed out, there are some nice rares in this set. The Garruk you could get is nice, and cards like Lilliana and Snapcaster will likely hold value. The dual lands in this set will also likely appreciate in value.

Good luck with your pulls!

[VindictiveGnome]

Why is it that so many people approach all the Magic product they buy and events they play in from such a stringent expected value perspective? It isn't a flawed way to approach things, but it just seems so much more prevalent and exposed in Magic than in any other hobby. Is it just that it is generally pretty expensive and thus you want to get the most for your money?

Yes, but generally I want to get the most for money in anything and everything I do whether it be grocery shopping, video games, or Magic.

I bought a bunch of cards on eBay:
Strangleroot Geist x4
Titanic Growth x4
Mwonvuli Beast Tracker x4
Sentinel Spider x4
Fog x4
Duskdale Wurm x4
Acidic Slime x4
Moldgraf Monstrosity x4
Fungal Sprouting x4
Revive x4
Soul of the Harvest x4
Bountiful Harvest x4
Wolfir Silverheart x2

Everything was $26.85. Hope I didn't go overboard. Hopefully they're good. Buying singles seems to be the way to go. I get what I want with no uncertainty.

[Takuan]

Why is it that so many people approach all the Magic product they buy and events they play in from such a stringent expected value perspective? It isn't a flawed way to approach things, but it just seems so much more prevalent and exposed in Magic than in any other hobby. Is it just that it is generally pretty expensive and thus you want to get the most for your money?

I think people generally want perceived fair value for whatever they pay for, but that's particularly true in the case of Magic where people are paying considerably large sums of money for cardboard. I have fun at pre-release events and all, but it's that much more fun when I open a money mythic in my pool or in prize packs, for example. If I don't open any money in both my pool and prize packs, I get a little salty.

We went to our local comic/game shop to buy some basic lands and we overheard a fellow player saying it's worth it to buy a booster box because you usually always get back what you put into it from the valuable cards you find. Well, if that's true, we'd like to buy a booster box so we can find some rares, but also sell some in order to recoup some or all of the cost of the booster box. We're not sure which set to buy. I pretty much have all the commons/most of the uncommons I will ever need from Avacyn Restored because of WanderingWind.

It's rarely worth it to buy a booster box from a value perspective. It is almost always better to buy singles because you get exactly what you want and you don't wind up with a bunch of junk that goes unused. The trade-off is giving up the thrill of the chase, however, and you lose out on drafting/getting a feel for the set.

I still tend to buy a box of a big set whenever possible, sometimes two if I stumble upon a great deal and it's a fun set. I've already got my Ravnica funds set aside. :D

[narcosis219]

Why is it that so many people approach all the Magic product they buy and events they play in from such a stringent expected value perspective? It isn't a flawed way to approach things, but it just seems so much more prevalent and exposed in Magic than in any other hobby. Is it just that it is generally pretty expensive and thus you want to get the most for your money?

Well, in magic, you seldom want to have every card. You might only really want or need 20% of a set. You can either let your unused snapcasters sit there in your basement, or sell it off for 15 or 20 dollars. That is a substantial amount of money for a piece of card board.

Money is money, and you are bound to get unwanted cards that are worth money. It's human nature to want these cards to be worth as much as possible. Wouldn't it be nice to buy a box to draft and then sell the contents for another box plus 10 dollars? That sounds much better than buying a box and having thr contents worth 30 in total

[Sinatar]

Anyone going to the SDCC for the Magic panel? Sounds like we might get our first RTR spoilers there.

[Owlowiscious]

Why is it that so many people approach all the Magic product they buy and events they play in from such a stringent expected value perspective? It isn't a flawed way to approach things, but it just seems so much more prevalent and exposed in Magic than in any other hobby. Is it just that it is generally pretty expensive and thus you want to get the most for your money?

Event wise, if I lose, I can at least say "well at least I got some good cards from it." Lose an event and pull low value cards? Double loss.

Buying packs alone? I can trade $25 cards easier than $.25 ones.

[joelseph]

Opened a Bonfire last night online in draft and took second. Feels good man.

[Takuan]

Anyone going to the SDCC for the Magic panel? Sounds like we might get our first RTR spoilers there.

I would love for them to reveal Jarad, the new leader of the Golgari that is anticipated to be featured in the next duel deck along with Niv-Mizzet.

[The Technomancer]

I would love for them to reveal Jarad, the new leader of the Golgari that is anticipated to be featured in the next duel deck along with Niv-Mizzet.

Man, the Golgari just churn through leaders don't they?

[ultron87]

Man, the Golgari just churn through leaders don't they?

*dredge joke*

[Sinatar]

So during todays lunch hour 2HG game, one of my opponents got out a thragtusk and 2 conjurers closets. Also had a champion of lambholt out to boot.

Needless to say we lost that match.

[divisionbyzorro]

So during todays lunch hour 2HG game, one of my opponents got out a thragtusk and 2 conjurers closets. Also had a champion of lambholt out to boot. Needless to say we lost that match.

I assume he had multiple targets for the closet? Because stackwise, both closets can't target the same Thragtusk; the second one to go off would fizzle.

I really can't wait until we get proper internet connection in our new apartment; we just moved from Texas to Australia, and I haven't played a proper game of Magic in weeks. I keep brewing in my head, and can't do anything about it!

[VindictiveGnome]

So I did something bad. I won an auction for 12x M13 booster pack for $39. Can't wait to open them. I am done spending money on MTG for a few months. Hopefully.

[Hero]

Why is it that so many people approach all the Magic product they buy and events they play in from such a stringent expected value perspective? It isn't a flawed way to approach things, but it just seems so much more prevalent and exposed in Magic than in any other hobby. Is it just that it is generally pretty expensive and thus you want to get the most for your money?

Because Magic is rather expensive if your primary course of action is to buy packs/boxes to get cards you want. With the majority of value being held in mythic rares these days your chances of breaking even are much less than they used to be. I would rather spend 100 dollars on singles to beef up my standard deck and start winning money/store credit back on standard/modern/legacy tournaments than spend 100 dollars on a box of a new set and HOPE to get some of the chase cards. With m13, there isn't even a good chase card.

Anyone going to the SDCC for the Magic panel? Sounds like we might get our first RTR spoilers there.

We will definitely be getting first RTR spoilers at SDCC, confirmed by Magic Aaron Forsythe.

[narcosis219]

So I did something bad. I won an auction for 12x M13 booster pack for $39. Can't wait to open them. I am done spending money on MTG for a few months. Hopefully.

It's too late. They already have you.

[VindictiveGnome]

It's too late. They already have you.

[Takuan]

The Dark Side welcomes you.

[divisionbyzorro]

The great thing about MTGO is that singles are dirt cheap (generally - chase mythics are still expensive), and there's something about ripping a pack online that just isn't nearly as satisfying. So if you play MTGO, you do nothing but buy singles - case closed. On the flip side though, it does mean that limited is a financially terrible proposition, so it's not all roses.

Oh yeah - and the new MTGO client looks sick.

[Owlowiscious]

new magic online? http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...ly/feature/203

I might actually play it now...

[Takuan]

The great thing about MTGO is that singles are dirt cheap (generally - chase mythics are still expensive), and there's something about ripping a pack online that just isn't nearly as satisfying. So if you play MTGO, you do nothing but buy singles - case closed. On the flip side though, it does mean that limited is a financially terrible proposition, so it's not all roses. Oh yeah - and the new MTGO client looks sick.

Hmm, was hoping for something slicker, along the lines of DOTP. Still may give it a shot.

[ultron87]

That new client does sound pretty nice. I hope they made all the assets scale to high resolutions better, because it looks so terrible when you make it full screen right now.

[An-Det]

Does anyone know if it's still possible to see a list of events you've played in and who you played each round? It used to be in webapp.wizards.com under My Events, but they must have removed that at some point. Is that completely gone or maybe wrapped into the PWP pages?

Also I really like the way the mtgo client updates look. Hopefully it is that good in person.

[keeblerdrow]

I came back to the game! I haven't played since the release of Fifth Dawn. Good lord there are some new mechanics to learn. And I decided to pitch all of the old cards and focus on Standard. Well, the Innistrad/Dark Ascension/Avacyn Restored block. I haven't really run into a deck type in this block that's been interesting or fun to play at this point. Could someone point me to some mechanics that are particularly fun to get working in this block? Only caveat: I do not like white decks. They are boring.

[divisionbyzorro]

I came back to the game! I haven't played since the release of Fifth Dawn. Good lord there are some new mechanics to learn. And I decided to pitch all of the old cards and focus on Standard. Well, the Innistrad/Dark Ascension/Avacyn Restored block. I haven't really run into a deck type in this block that's been interesting or fun to play at this point. Could someone point me to some mechanics that are particularly fun to get working in this block? Only caveat: I do not like white decks. They are boring.

Tribal decks are huge in Innistrad Block. Humans (both G/W and Boros), Zombies, Werewolves, Spirits, etc. But I think you're looking for something more interesting, so here's a few suggestions (with links):

• Angel of Glory's Rise Reanimator - Use Faithless Looting and Mulch to dump a bunch of humans (preferably with ETB effects) and an Angel of Glory's Rise into the graveyard, then use Unburial Rites on the Angel and dump your graveyard back onto the battlefield.
• Spider Spawning - Mill yourself to power up creatures like Splinterfright, Ghoultree, and Kessig Cagebreakers, or just flood the battlefield with spider tokens from Spider Spawning. Super fun deck to play.
• Burning Vengeance - Play the control game with a deck full of flashback spells. If you stick a couple of Burning Vengeance enchantments on the table, you're almost unstoppable.

[Alien Manobo]

Finally got my booster box and impulse bought a fat pack.

Spoils from the fat pack wasn't all that great:

Stuffy Doll (2) Gilded Lotus Sands of Delirium Hellion Crucible Quirion Dryad Krenko, Mob Boss Sphinx of Uthuun Mutilate

From the booster box:

Vampire Nocturnus Ajani, Caller of the Pride Liliana of the Dark Realms Primordial Hydra (2) 1 foil Chandra of the Fire brand *which I got in the same pack of the foil Hydra

I'm a bit bummed that I only got one O.ring from the box, but I can't complain with the mythics and dual lands I got. Other notable rares were Master of the Pearl Trident, Thragtusk, Krenko, and Disciple of Bolas.

Aside from an Exhalted deck that I can build from these cards, I think I can probably make a goblin deck If I can find some other staple goblin cards like kings/chieftains and grenades.

I think I'll be sticking to buying singles from now on.

[fifasnipe2224]

I need your help GAF. I am creating four magic cards. One is for my Girl Friend who I will be proposing to, another is for my unborn daughter (expected birth is early August) and two more cards for my two younger brother. I play MTG the most with my GF and little brothers and I will be playing with my daughter whether she likes it or not. So I can use a bit of help… Grammar, proper use of MTG langue to sound legit, Manna cost, ect.


The Amazing Proposal
WWWW
Instant
When Harry proposes to Samantha she may say yes or no. If the answer is yes: All cards are returned to their library from the grave yard, player’s hand, in play, or form exile. Both players return to 20 life and combine their libraries and health. Both players win happily ever after. If the answer is no: Return The Amazing Proposal to its owner hand and try again.
Will you marry me?

The Amazing Father
4GGWW
Creature
First Strike, Trample
When the Amazing Father comes into play, Ashley restores her life to 20, if her life total is less than 20.
TAP: Daddy will remove target bully or spider from the game. Search your library for a creature with equal to or less than the converted manna cost. Put that card into play under your control.
9/9
And when the child became old enough to ask her father questions, the Amazing Father would reply, “Go ask your Mother.”

The Middle Child
5G
Enchantment
When The Middle Child comes to play every player must apologize for things they have not done or said. For the rest of the game The Middle Child is to act ignored and all other players will pretend to be loved more by their parents.
I love this bagel!

The Shadow
4RRG
Creature
TAP: Target creature must be followed by The Shadow for all eternity. Target creature can never be left alone.
4/2
Best. Day. Ever.

Feel free to ask any questions. Also were would be the best place to create and order these cards from??

[kirblar]

Google Splendid Genesis. It's actually real and a number of copies exist in real life- Garfield had them done for himself.

(I see you've found Proposal.)

[OnPoint]

I think I'm going to buy an M13 fat pack.

God save me.

[Lucario]

I ordered a playset of Thundermaw Hellkites.

I don't even play standard. I just really like dragons, and found the set for $65 shipped.

There's probably something wrong with me.... although, I guess I could just sell three of 'em at the current price of $25, keep one, and make a $10 profit.

Also, remember that thing about not going infinite drafting?

Somehow my words betrayed me. There's such an absurd influx of bad players in the AVR queues right now -- I think due to most of the pro drafters playing around in cube -- that I'm going 3-0 or 2-1 in nearly every queue I play. I went from 12 tix to around 10 packs and a fuckton of mythics.

I realize the law of averages is going to kick me in the ass eventually, but for now, this is goddamn awesome.

I need your help GAF. I am creating four magic cards. One is for my Girl Friend who I will be proposing to, another is for my unborn daughter (expected birth is early August) and two more cards for my two younger brother. I play MTG the most with my GF and little brothers and I will be playing with my daughter whether she likes it or not. So I can use a bit of help… Grammar, proper use of MTG langue to sound legit, Manna cost, ect. The Amazing Proposal WWWW Instant When Harry proposes to Samantha she may say yes or no. If the answer is yes: All cards are returned to their library from the grave yard, player’s hand, in play, or form exile. Both players return to 20 life and combine their libraries and health. Both players win happily ever after. If the answer is no: Return The Amazing Proposal to its owner hand and try again. Will you marry me? The Amazing Father 4GGWW Creature First Strike, Trample When the Amazing Father comes into play, Ashley restores her life to 20, if her life total is less than 20. TAP: Daddy will remove target bully or spider from the game. Search your library for a creature with equal to or less than the converted manna cost. Put that card into play under your control. 9/9 And when the child became old enough to ask her father questions, the Amazing Father would reply, “Go ask your Mother.” The Middle Child 5G Enchantment When The Middle Child comes to play every player must apologize for things they have not done or said. For the rest of the game The Middle Child is to act ignored and all other players will pretend to be loved more by their parents. I love this bagel! The Shadow 4RRG Creature TAP: Target creature must be followed by The Shadow for all eternity. Target creature can never be left alone. 4/2 Best. Day. Ever. Feel free to ask any questions. Also were would be the best place to create and order these cards from??

Every custom card website has long since been shut down by WOTC -- sorry man.

It'd have a much more personal touch if you made them yourself - I used to do it as hobby/for a bit of profit (mine were fairly professional, between 5 and 10 bucks a card), and I'll walk you through the process if you remind me. Drop me a PM, or steam message me or something.

[kirblar]

I ordered a playset of Thundermaw Hellkites. I don't even play standard. I just really like dragons, and found the set for $65 shipped. There's probably something wrong with me.

Where'd you find that price at?

[Lucario]

Where'd you find that price at?

I happened to check ebay just as a mispriced listing went out.

[kirblar]

I happened to check ebay just as a mispriced listing went out.

Nice. I bought 3 @ 20 because I forgot TCGPlayer had free shipping at $50. (Would have bought them at $17 and picked up 3, possibly 4 for had I remember that.)

Btw- keep your eyes peeled for RTR spoilers. There have been a few remarks over the past few days suggesting the potential of A fixed JTMS (although definitely Jace 4.0, no matter the design.) being revealed.

[Keru_Shiri]

Every custom card website has long since been shut down by WOTC -- sorry man. It'd have a much more personal touch if you made them yourself - I used to do it as hobby/for a bit of profit (mine were fairly professional, between 5 and 10 bucks a card), and I'll walk you through the process if you remind me. Drop me a PM, or steam message me or something.

Not to undercut the rest of your post, which I agree with 100%, but the bolded isn't entirely true. Magic Set Editor is still alive and strong and is the best program for card creation, imo.

[Little Old Man]

Finally got my booster box and impulse bought a fat pack. Spoils from the fat pack wasn't all that great: From the booster box: I'm a bit bummed that I only got one O.ring from the box, but I can't complain with the mythics and dual lands I got. Other notable rares were Master of the Pearl Trident, Thragtusk, Krenko, and Disciple of Bolas. Aside from an Exhalted deck that I can build from these cards, I think I can probably make a goblin deck If I can find some other staple goblin cards like kings/chieftains and grenades. I think I'll be sticking to buying singles from now on.

This just reaffirms my paranoia that the Fat Packs are purposely filled with average cards, and the booster boxes with kittens and candy. Don't mind me....

[joeygreco1985]

I need your help GAF. I am creating four magic cards. One is for my Girl Friend who I will be proposing to, another is for my unborn daughter (expected birth is early August) and two more cards for my two younger brother. I play MTG the most with my GF and little brothers and I will be playing with my daughter whether she likes it or not. So I can use a bit of help… Grammar, proper use of MTG langue to sound legit, Manna cost, ect. The Amazing Proposal WWWW Instant When Harry proposes to Samantha she may say yes or no. If the answer is yes: All cards are returned to their library from the grave yard, player’s hand, in play, or form exile. Both players return to 20 life and combine their libraries and health. Both players win happily ever after. If the answer is no: Return The Amazing Proposal to its owner hand and try again. Will you marry me? The Amazing Father 4GGWW Creature First Strike, Trample When the Amazing Father comes into play, Ashley restores her life to 20, if her life total is less than 20. TAP: Daddy will remove target bully or spider from the game. Search your library for a creature with equal to or less than the converted manna cost. Put that card into play under your control. 9/9 And when the child became old enough to ask her father questions, the Amazing Father would reply, “Go ask your Mother.” The Middle Child 5G Enchantment When The Middle Child comes to play every player must apologize for things they have not done or said. For the rest of the game The Middle Child is to act ignored and all other players will pretend to be loved more by their parents. I love this bagel! The Shadow 4RRG Creature TAP: Target creature must be followed by The Shadow for all eternity. Target creature can never be left alone. 4/2 Best. Day. Ever. Feel free to ask any questions. Also were would be the best place to create and order these cards from??

I REALLY like this idea. Keeping it in mind for future reference lol

[Lucario]

Not to undercut the rest of your post, which I agree with 100%, but the bolded isn't entirely true. Magic Set Editor is still alive and strong and is the best program for card creation, imo.

I meant websites that sell physical custom cards, which I assume is what he's looking for - MSE is amazing, it's what I designed my cards in. It's the printing process that's kind of difficult.

[Yeef]

This just reaffirms my paranoia that the Fat Packs are purposely filled with average cards, and the booster boxes with kittens and candy. Don't mind me....

Just bad luck.

Had a friend open an Avacyn fat pack last week and he got 3 mythics out of it.

I opened an Avacyn fat pack a few months back and got two mythics and a cavern of souls.

[The Technomancer]

Not to undercut the rest of your post, which I agree with 100%, but the bolded isn't entirely true. Magic Set Editor is still alive and strong and is the best program for card creation, imo.

Yup, I love MSE although I think development has stagnated? Did they ever release an update with Double-Faced Cards?

[Keru_Shiri]

I meant websites that sell physical custom cards, which I assume is what he's looking for - MSE is amazing, it's what I designed my cards in. It's the printing process that's kind of difficult.

Oh, my mistake. Yeah, every attempt I've made at making my own cards (I wanted some high-quality proxies for an EDH deck) came out either terrible quality, or way to thick.

Yup, I love MSE although I think development has stagnated? Did they ever release an update with Double-Faced Cards?

It seems like some parts of the forum are active, but yeah, I don't think they've released any new templates in a while. Did they ever get Phyrexian mana made?

[joeygreco1985]

Finally got my booster box and impulse bought a fat pack. Spoils from the fat pack wasn't all that great: From the booster box: I'm a bit bummed that I only got one O.ring from the box, but I can't complain with the mythics and dual lands I got. Other notable rares were Master of the Pearl Trident, Thragtusk, Krenko, and Disciple of Bolas. Aside from an Exhalted deck that I can build from these cards, I think I can probably make a goblin deck If I can find some other staple goblin cards like kings/chieftains and grenades. I think I'll be sticking to buying singles from now on.

I hear you dude. I split an M13 box with a friend last night and got one mythic, no O rings, but a good start on an exalted deck and a soldier deck. My buddy that got the other half of the box got 3 mythics! I should have just went all in!

I think I'm just going to pick another 4 packs go with what I have. Might buy a set or two of O rings online but thats it

[Venfayth]

Buying a box today during lunch to make the rest of the day go by quickly. Fucking fridays. I know it probably won't be worth it, but opening a box is like a drug :O

[Hero]

For people interested in making their own cards or proxies I would definitely recommend making them in Magic Set Editor. Then what you can do is take junk foil commons or something, use a little acetone to get the ink off so you're left with a shiny blank foil like this.

Then you can get them printed out on decal sticker sheets, align them properly like you're putting on a screen protector on a phone and trim the excess away.

A close up of one I did.

This was my first print test run doing so. My printer is really crappy so the ink didn't come out as well as I wanted but next I will be taking them to Staples or Kinko's to get them printed out 100% accurate. The best part about this process is that the sticker decal doesn't add too much to the thickness of the card so they still fit into sleeves nicely.

[VindictiveGnome]

Just got my two Wolfir Silverhearts in the mail. Sweeeeeeet. Now I just gotta wait for my 30 other single cards and 12 M13 booster packs to arrive. The wait is killing me.

[Little Old Man]

Another day, another deck. This time, R/W humans with the following as my starting point:

4x Champion of the Parish
4x Doomed Traveller
4x Kessig Malcontents
4x Goldnight Commander
3x Elite Inquisitor

4x Gather the Townsfolk
4x Thatchers Revolt

From there, possibly Riders of Gavony, Divine Deflection, Slayers Stronghold, Silverblade Paladin, and Mirran Crusader?

[kirblar]

For people interested in making their own cards or proxies I would definitely recommend making them in Magic Set Editor. Then what you can do is take junk foil commons or something, use a little acetone to get the ink off so you're left with a shiny blank foil like this. Then you can get them printed out on decal sticker sheets, align them properly like you're putting on a screen protector on a phone and trim the excess away. A close up of one I did. This was my first print test run doing so. My printer is really crappy so the ink didn't come out as well as I wanted but next I will be taking them to Staples or Kinko's to get them printed out 100% accurate. The best part about this process is that the sticker decal doesn't add too much to the thickness of the card so they still fit into sleeves nicely.

I'm about to print up a semi-custom cube w/ 40 "new" cards- does the standard MSE print size fit perfectly for proxies?

[Venfayth]

My loot from the box I opened:
(apologies for shitty/blurry iphone pic)

Really happy I got a Worldfire. I doubt I'll ever get to play it, but I LOVE the art.