[+Aliken+]

Great, Redemption's the best game I've played since... I don't even know. Maybe since I started playing videogames. I felt the story was complete and nearly perfect but man I imagine it being something else with next gen hardware. Could be stunning.

Stories will not be better because of next gen hardware.

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

Please for the love of everything make it happen :(

[Brother Sport]

I wouldn't mind if Red Dead went further into the future actually. Anyone ever read Cormac McCarthys All the Pretty Horses? Extract from a Wikipedia article:

The novel tells of John Grady Cole, a sixteen year old cowboy who grew up on his grandfather's ranch in San Angelo, Texas. The story begins in 1949, soon after the death of John Grady's grandfather, when Grady learns that the ranch is to be sold. Faced with the prospect of moving into town, Grady instead chooses to leave, persuading his best friend, Lacey Rawlins, to accompany him. Traveling by horseback, the pair travel Southward into Mexico, where they hope to find work as cowboys.

(Highly recommend reading it, it's great)

It's a story about two guys trying to live the western cowboy life in a world that's completely changed. If the classic cowboys were a dying breed in John Marstons time they're nearly extinct in 1949. I imagine this would be interesting narratively, not longer being a dinosaur like Marston but instead playing as someone younger who actively seeks out being a cowboy in a more modern setting. And it would carry the theme from Redemption, how the old west was near it's end and the people were wedged in between times, nicely.

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

I'd go further back, such rich possibilities.

[Dakota47]

I wouldn't mind if Red Dead went further into the future actually. Anyone ever read Cormac McCarthys All the Pretty Horses? Extract from a Wikipedia article: (Highly recommend reading it, it's great) It's a story about two guys trying to live the western cowboy life in a world that's completely changed. If the classic cowboys were a dying breed in John Marstons time they're nearly extinct in 1949. I imagine this would be interesting narratively, not longer being a dinosaur like Marston but instead playing as someone younger who actively seeks out being a cowboy in a more modern setting. And it would carry the theme from Redemption, how the old west was near it's end and the people were wedged in between times, nicely.

If R* is going to base a Red Dead game on a McCarthy novel I'd prefer Blood Meridian. In my humble opinion it's immeasurably better than the Horses trilogy.

[AniHawk]

why not rad dad redemption and make it about a baby boomer parent in the 1980s in desert center out in california.

[Supervlieg]

Pirates, you heard it here first.

[Row]

Pirates, you heard it here first.

Red Dead Seas

Day 1

[dosh]

Stories will not be better because of next gen hardware.

No, but the way they are told will. Games recently entered an era where characters, for instance, are detailed enough to hint at subtle expressions. Where animations systems are linked to physics engine to give them more credible and contextual movements. That alone can change a lot of things in the way a story is told.

[GlamFM]

People need to get over Agent.

Game ain't happening.

[PatrickLyons]

That final complaint is self-inflicted. Why not play the game in the manner it was intended?

I think the hardcore mode merely aggravated what were pre-existing problems with the game.

Moving john around areas that are flat and open generally works well, but anytime there's stuff around he moves like garbage, constantly banging into things and stopping suddenly. It's hard to get him to go up steps/ledges if he isn't facing them directly. In many cases, locations that looked like cover ended up not providing cover, meaning you take cover only to die anyway, or not being cover-objects at all, resulting in john sliding over and taking cover behind some other object nearby, often placing him directly in line of fire.

I turned the aim sensitivity to the max and still struggled with aiming whenever enemies got within 20 feet or so, which happened a lot. the game devolved into a challenge to keep enemies at distance, especially the missions where waves of mounted enemies came at you while you were traveling somewhere because a single enemy at close range was almost certain to kill me before i could even target him unless I used dead-eye. I also died a whole lot early in the game to roving blue-dot bandits because i would just be riding along, see a blue dot and go to investigate, it wouldn't show that they were enemies until i got close, and then suddenly they'd open fire and i would die. I eventually learned how to recognize the different blue-dot scenes from a distance. Still, any encounter while mounted was an invitation to die.

Also the knife combat was infuriating in those instances where it was necessary. Sometimes I could get it to sneak-kill guys, sometimes marston would just stand there crouching and looking stupid and the camera would turn oddly and then I'd die, all while I madly tried to swing the knife.

I would also note that I mention these things mostly as constructive criticism that I would hope they work on for the next game. I certainly got my money's worth, and the game does a lot of things I really liked. It just very much felt like a "first try." And while I mentioned that I played it on hardcore just to be clear, my girlfriend played it on normal and died a lot from the same problems, though she just quit playing after a few hours in frustration. Much of the time, hardcore mode meant I needed to be really careful, which I was cool with and wanted, but it also lead to a lot of really cheap deaths when the game forced me into certain set-pieces where being careful wasn't really an option.

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Maybe AGENT INFO OMFG....

[Globox_82]

Game of this gen for me. Last couple of hours just wow

[SamuraiX-]

I guess a prequel with John Marston's gang days would be pretty cool.

But yeah, this game definitely needs a PC port. R*'s sitting on a gold mine and seem to be completely oblivious to it.

[MrOogieBoogie]

If R* is going to base a Red Dead game on a McCarthy novel I'd prefer Blood Meridian. In my humble opinion it's immeasurably better than the Horses trilogy.

Yeah, but Blood Meridian is one of the greatest novels of all time, so that's not saying very much. :P

[-PXG-]

It's a crime that RDR never came to PC. A fucking crime.

[ekim]

People need to get over Agent. Game ain't happening.

Agent is still in the making - just check some linkedin profiles. Few of them were recently updated, stating they are working on Agent.

edit: there you go :http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/adam-westwood/9/a32/337