[BruceLeeRoy]

Yep. Everything we have seen about the movie is random footage, which is Snyder's strength and talent. It's obvious the movie will look good, but I doubt it will even manage to be more engaging than the Donner movies.

Yeah, his trailers are gorgeous and always trick me. Not this time!

Snyder is just a mediocre director. Every-time I believe a director can break the rules and create something great I am always reminded that it never happens.
Last time that happened was McG and T:Salvation. I actually allowed myself to think this would be where McG finally established himself with a great great film.
Alas it wasn't and the same will happen with Superman.

[ViewtifulJC]

Thor felt like a 114 minute episode of a high budget fantasy sitcom. I enjoyed some of it, particularly Hemsworth's performance, but overall it doesn't amount to anything besides being filler leading up to The Avengers. Also, dutch angles.

I haven't seen that many useless dutch angles since Battlefield Earth

[BruceLeeRoy]

Lists yay:

Excellent:

TDK
TDKR

Great:

Avengers
BB
Superman
Superman 2

Watchable:

Hulk [Norton]
Iron Man
X-2

Terrible / Nostalgic still Terrible:

Yeah everything else: Spiderman, the rest of the X-Men, Thor are all terrible and some were only considered great because of the time-frame in which they released. We were all so used to every superhero movie being such ass that anything that looked like some effort went into it automatically blew us away.

[Zeliard]

I dunno why people think Thor is that awful. I'd put it far above the likes of Captain America and Norton's Hulk. It was an enjoyable flick with good humor, nice visual flourishes and perfect casting for the two primaries.

[FrenchMovieTheme]

I dunno why people think Thor is that awful. I'd put it far above the likes of Captain America and Norton's Hulk. It was an enjoyable flick with good humor, nice visual flourishes and perfect casting for the two primaries.

i liked thor a lot. MUCH better than captain america. i actually liked nortons hulk but i just seem to be in the minority in that regard. i dont get why people hate it so much. they captured hulks raw power very well and the last fight was awesome

[talisayNon]

Begins had terrible pacing problems. People just want to nostalgia it to death.

Dark Knight Rises was fucking terrific jesus, but so was Dark Knight.

I can't decide. They're both God Tier. Nolan is God Tier. Holy shit. Based Nolan, I am not worthy.

[Dahbomb]

My problem with Thor is that while a fun movie there was far less action or genuine super hero moments in it than the other top super hero movies. The romcom element was too much and it really was nothing more than character intros for Thor and loki. Its not really what a Thor movie should be like imo.

Love all the x2 love in this thread, one of my favorite marvel movies ever.

[Dead]

God Tier:
Batman Begins
Dark Knight Rises

Great Tier:
X2
Watchmen
Superman

Very Good Tier:
Amazing Spider-Man
Batman
Batman Returns
The Dark Knight
V for Vendetta

Good Tier:
Iron Man
Avengers
X-Men First Class

Ok Tier:
Hulk (Lee)
Thor
Captain America

Fuck everything else

[bangladesh]

I just got back from watching it.

I left the theater confused. I could not believe that it was Christopher Nolan who directed this film. It was not good. And I can't believe I'd end up typing this, but it's the truth. I love Batman Begins and I love The Dark Knight. But this felt like a cash in from everyone except for Michael Caine.

This movie was like a Nolan fan boy taking a shot at film making. This film was fucking boring. It was extremely tedious when there wasn't a spectacle. Bane was awesome with the little time he was given but apart from that this movie sucked balls. I expected the film to take it's final and most important idea/statement and explore upon it and leave us with something profound to think about. It wasn't. I wanted 3 hours of FEARING the monster that is Bane. I wanted the theater to be tense. But instead there was laughter in response to dumb silly things happening in the movie. Oh my fucking god. This film wasn't really about anything besides ''OH LOOK ITS BEEN 8 YEARS GOTHAMS IN TROUBLE AGAIN LETS JUST FULL CIRCLE WITH REFERENCES FROM THE FIRST OKCOOL'' I am still in disbelief. Biggest disappointment of 2012 for me.

[BruceLeeRoy]

I dunno why people think Thor is that awful. I'd put it far above the likes of Captain America and Norton's Hulk. It was an enjoyable flick with good humor, nice visual flourishes and perfect casting for the two primaries.

I thought it was fine but nothing I would ever ever watch again. Hulk is only up there because it sounds absolutely phenomenal on a good setup and there are a couple scenes that I think are handled really really well in the movie.

[The Technomancer]

I dunno why people think Thor is that awful. I'd put it far above the likes of Captain America and Norton's Hulk. It was an enjoyable flick with good humor, nice visual flourishes and perfect casting for the two primaries.

Thor isn't awful, its just...incredibly low key. Of all the recent Marvel movies Thor is the one that feels smallest in scale. Its just about Thor learning humility in some small town in Arizona. Which is weird because he's the most larger-than-life of the Avengers.

[Inferno313]

I just got back from watching it. I left the theater confused. I could not believe that it was Christopher Nolan who directed this film. It was not good. And I can't believe I'd end up typing this, but it's the truth. I love Batman Begins and I love The Dark Knight. But this felt like a cash in from everyone except for Michael Caine. This movie was like a Nolan fan boy taking a shot at film making. This film was fucking boring. It was extremely tedious when there wasn't a spectacle. Bane was awesome with the little time he was given but apart from that this movie sucked balls. I expected the film to take it's final and most important idea/statement and explore upon it and leave us with something profound to think about. It wasn't. I wanted 3 hours of FEARING the monster that is Bane. I wanted the theater to be tense. But instead there was laughter in response to dumb silly things happening in the movie. Oh my fucking god. This film wasn't really about anything besides ''OH LOOK ITS BEEN 8 YEARS GOTHAMS IN TROUBLE AGAIN LETS JUST FULL CIRCLE WITH REFERENCES FROM THE FIRST OKCOOL'' I am still in disbelief. Biggest disappointment of 2012 for me.

This is what overhyping does. Even TDK had those "dumb silly things" that people laughed at, in fact it had a lot more than this one.

Sounds like you just created an idea of what the film would be in your mind and it wasn't what you wanted or expected.

[The Technomancer]

I just got back from watching it. I left the theater confused. I could not believe that it was Christopher Nolan who directed this film. It was not good. And I can't believe I'd end up typing this, but it's the truth. I love Batman Begins and I love The Dark Knight. But this felt like a cash in from everyone except for Michael Caine. This movie was like a Nolan fan boy taking a shot at film making. This film was fucking boring. It was extremely tedious when there wasn't a spectacle. Bane was awesome with the little time he was given but apart from that this movie sucked balls. I expected the film to take it's final and most important idea/statement and explore upon it and leave us with something profound to think about. It wasn't. I wanted 3 hours of FEARING the monster that is Bane. I wanted the theater to be tense. But instead there was laughter in response to dumb silly things happening in the movie. Oh my fucking god. This film wasn't really about anything besides ''OH LOOK ITS BEEN 8 YEARS GOTHAMS IN TROUBLE AGAIN LETS JUST FULL CIRCLE WITH REFERENCES FROM THE FIRST OKCOOL'' I am still in disbelief. Biggest disappointment of 2012 for me.

Yup, I don't agree with everything you said here but my general sentiment is the same.

[bangladesh]

This is what overhyping does. Even TDK had those "dumb silly things" that people laughed at, in fact it had a lot more than this one. Sounds like you just created an idea of what the film would be in your mind and it wasn't what you wanted or expected.

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight both felt like they took their time with their themes. Rises didn't offer anything compelling at all.

[Dahbomb]

Yeah my screening had people completely focused on the movie. The sewer fight put everyone on notice and people were hush all the way until the ending. Very similar to the crowd at tdk showing for the majority of the movie.

Also I think tdkr did a great job in showing off the theme of hope and faith in the movie. Both in its breakdown and its rise. In fact I would say we were beaten over the head with it.

[bangladesh]

Yup, I don't agree with everything you said here but my general sentiment is the same.

What don't you agree with? (:

[shira]

.

You don't need to discuss plot here

[The Technomancer]

What don't you agree with? (:

I don't think the films biggest problem was that it was filled with throwbacks to the first movie, I think it had much bigger problems :P

[krackerjack]

A little off subject, but I saw it tonight AGAIN (still loved it) and I'm a little surprised about people saying some theaters aren't packed. The one I was in was slammed. I made some small talk with one of the people at the ticket window while she was waiting for my card to process and said "Was it pretty empty yesterday because of the trouble in Colorado?". She said that more people went to the early shows and it was like the early showings had numbers that looked like they should be evening showings and vice-versa.

I totally suggest going to this movie with a big audience though. Especially for the reactions!

[Forever]

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight both felt like they took their time with their themes. Rises didn't offer anything compelling at all.

I think that while Begins and TDK were philosophical, Rises is more personal, almost a character study. It's about Bruce Wayne the man and what the years have done to him and how he chooses to spend the rest of his life. I suppose the problem is that the poignancy here is detached almost entirely from the villain and the spectacle. It definitely has its problems but on the whole I felt it really succeeded with what it set out to do, which was to provide closure to a complete saga. I thought it was a beautiful ending to the trilogy.

[Zeliard]

i liked thor a lot. MUCH better than captain america. i actually liked nortons hulk but i just seem to be in the minority in that regard. i dont get why people hate it so much. they captured hulks raw power very well and the last fight was awesome

I don't hate The Incredible Hulk; I just found it very underwhelming. There are a couple of neat scenes, and I love Edward Norton as an actor, but it really just didn't do anything for me. Wasn't impressed by Tim Roth or his role either.

Lee's Hulk had its problems and gets it share of ridicule, but I thought that was a ballsier attempt at doing something interesting with the Hulk. It'll be intriguing to see how a standalone Ruffalo Hulk film ends up. Don't think it's an easy character to do right in his own movie.

Thor isn't awful, its just...incredibly low key. Of all the recent Marvel movies Thor is the one that feels smallest in scale. Its just about Thor learning humility in some small town in Arizona. Which is weird because he's the most larger-than-life of the Avengers.

I think it was purposefully entry-level since they were likely just setting the stage for the sequels to venture deeper into the cosmic stuff, and I imagine Thor 2 will feature a lot more Asgard. Just a shame Branagh isn't coming back.

[bangladesh]

I don't think the films biggest problem was that it was filled with throwbacks to the first movie, I think it had much bigger problems :P

I don't think it was the biggest problem either, I just made fun of it a bit. I thought the editing felt like it was rushing shots of information in a consistently uncomfortable pace. It felt awkward. This guy was trying to fit too much into the time given. There was little room to breath. And waaaaaaaay too little tension for such an imposing villain.

I think that while Begins and TDK were philosophical, Rises is more personal, almost a character study. It's about Bruce Wayne the man and what the years have done to him and how he chooses to spend the rest of his life. I suppose the problem is that the poignancy here is detached almost entirely from the villain and the spectacle. It definitely has its problems but on the whole I felt it really succeeded with what it set out to do, which was to provide closure to a complete saga. I thought it was a beautiful ending to the trilogy.

It didn't even feel like a conclusion to me, honestly. I felt there was plenty room for a new chapter at the end. I think the climax was pretty standard.

[Schweini]

[Trey]

Too many words of greatness to do a Bane one.

[Tookay]

I just got back from watching it. I left the theater confused. I could not believe that it was Christopher Nolan who directed this film. It was not good. And I can't believe I'd end up typing this, but it's the truth. I love Batman Begins and I love The Dark Knight. But this felt like a cash in from everyone except for Michael Caine. This movie was like a Nolan fan boy taking a shot at film making. This film was fucking boring. It was extremely tedious when there wasn't a spectacle. Bane was awesome with the little time he was given but apart from that this movie sucked balls. I expected the film to take it's final and most important idea/statement and explore upon it and leave us with something profound to think about. It wasn't. I wanted 3 hours of FEARING the monster that is Bane. I wanted the theater to be tense. But instead there was laughter in response to dumb silly things happening in the movie. Oh my fucking god. This film wasn't really about anything besides ''OH LOOK ITS BEEN 8 YEARS GOTHAMS IN TROUBLE AGAIN LETS JUST FULL CIRCLE WITH REFERENCES FROM THE FIRST OKCOOL'' I am still in disbelief. Biggest disappointment of 2012 for me.

This is Nolan's worst movie and the weakest Batman film. It's stupid as hell, where the other ones were smarter and more taut. It also has the most missed potential.

My opinions almost completely mirrored your's after I went to the midnight showing.

... That said, I think a second viewing improved this film tremendously in my eyes. It's still hugely flawed, but I at least enjoyed it and think it's a good movie, warts and all.

[cajunator]

I watched an afternoon showing of TDKR today and holy fuck, it was an awesome movie.
I think TDK barely edges it because Heath's Joker was fucking legendary, but this was a pretty badass movie all around. Can't wait to buy this bluray.

[Anth0ny]

I just got back from watching it. I left the theater confused. I could not believe that it was Christopher Nolan who directed this film. It was not good. And I can't believe I'd end up typing this, but it's the truth. I love Batman Begins and I love The Dark Knight. But this felt like a cash in from everyone except for Michael Caine. This movie was like a Nolan fan boy taking a shot at film making. This film was fucking boring. It was extremely tedious when there wasn't a spectacle. Bane was awesome with the little time he was given but apart from that this movie sucked balls. I expected the film to take it's final and most important idea/statement and explore upon it and leave us with something profound to think about. It wasn't. I wanted 3 hours of FEARING the monster that is Bane. I wanted the theater to be tense. But instead there was laughter in response to dumb silly things happening in the movie. Oh my fucking god. This film wasn't really about anything besides ''OH LOOK ITS BEEN 8 YEARS GOTHAMS IN TROUBLE AGAIN LETS JUST FULL CIRCLE WITH REFERENCES FROM THE FIRST OKCOOL'' I am still in disbelief. Biggest disappointment of 2012 for me.

That's how I felt about the first hour of Batman Begins. Then it picks up, and becomes awesome.

In contrast, I was totally into the "slower" parts of TDKR throughout the entire film. Those 2 hours and 45 minutes went by like nothing. The characters were great and the dialogue was interesting all the way through.

[TheKaeptain]

Welcome to the second viewing awesomeness club! The more confidence in second viewing there is, the higher chances of sculli to do it!

Yep. Second viewing was amazing.

[PowderedToast]

great:

ghost rider: spirit of vengeance

good:

hulk (2003)
batman
batman returns

cute:

spider-man 1
spider-man 2
batman forever

garbage:

everything else

[Cartman86]

Going to see it in D-Box again tomorrow, but I was slightly disappointed compared with my expectations of the previous two films. The advertising never really got me excited so I guess I wasn't that hyped. I think it was entertaining enough, but at times it felt too convenient. And the script seemed like it went from scene to scene, character to character with no cohesive reason. In retrospect it made sense, but for 2 hours I was shifting in my seat a little too much. The action wasn't particularly great, but the only good action in the series was in The Dark Knight. It's probably good enough though. There were a couple emotional scenes that really got me though.

Alfred and Bruce moments made the movie though.

B

[bangladesh]

That's how I felt about the first hour of Batman Begins. Then it picks up, and becomes awesome. In contrast, I was totally into the "slower" parts of TDKR throughout the entire film. Those 2 hours and 45 minutes went by like nothing. The characters were great and the dialogue was interesting all the way through.

WHAT. The first half is the best bit of Batman on film you'll ever see. Character development, anth0ny. Motivations, anth0ny. Immersion. Evolution. Heart. Progression. Structure.

[See You Next Wednesday]

Still haven't watched the movie yet (I'll be going only when I have the time for cheap matinee prices).
Reading some of the spoilers on the net has made me laugh. Apparently there are some mega colossal bad lulz in this movie.

That pretty much reinforces that it was a good idea not to go at the premiere.

[Discotheque]

Still haven't watched the movie yet (I'll be going only when I have the time for cheap matinee prices). Reading some of the spoilers on the net has made me laugh. Apparently there are some mega colossal bad lulz in this movie. That pretty much reinforces that it was a good idea not to go at the premiere.

Seriously this is the most flawed of the Batman trilogy. It is fun, but at times it feels like a retarded internet fanboy directed this instead of Nolan.

The sloppy flashbacks.
the lame references to previous films
etc.

It's not even a cohesive film until about the last hour. There's a good film in here. But it needs major editing. Somebody in another thread (or possibly this one) said this is a first draft film. It certainly feels like it.

I loved the ending of this movie but honestly TDK is the ending of the series for me like "you bow to noone" is the ending of ROTK for me.

edit: nitpicking etc. etc. yeah yeah. There are problems with this film, and it certainly doesn't hold up to the first two

[PhoncipleBone]

Seriously this is the most flawed of the Batman trilogy. It is fun, but at times it feels like a retarded internet fanboy directed this instead of Nolan. The sloppy flashbacks. the lame references to previous films etc. It's not even a cohesive film until about the last hour. There's a good film in here. But it needs major editing. Somebody in another thread (or possibly this one) said this is a first draft film. It certainly feels like it. I loved the ending of this movie but honestly TDK is the ending of the series for me like "you bow to noone" is the ending of ROTK for me.

Can we hug? Give me a hug.

[bangladesh]

Not even Christopher Nolan can escape the 3rd Movie Curse.

[TrumanBurbank]

Still haven't watched the movie yet (I'll be going only when I have the time for cheap matinee prices). Reading some of the spoilers on the net has made me laugh. Apparently there are some mega colossal bad lulz in this movie. That pretty much reinforces that it was a good idea not to go at the premiere.

Why are you reading spoilers before seeing this? Who does that? What's the point of seeing Sixth Sense if you know the twist? Pointless...

Not even Christopher Nolan can escape the 3rd Movie Curse.

Movie was great.

[Scullibundo]

Seriously this is the most flawed of the Batman trilogy. It is fun, but at times it feels like a retarded internet fanboy directed this instead of Nolan. The sloppy flashbacks. the lame references to previous films etc. It's not even a cohesive film until about the last hour. There's a good film in here. But it needs major editing. Somebody in another thread (or possibly this one) said this is a first draft film. It certainly feels like it. I loved the ending of this movie but honestly TDK is the ending of the series for me like "you bow to noone" is the ending of ROTK for me. edit: nitpicking etc. etc. yeah yeah. There are problems with this film, and it certainly doesn't hold up to the first two

That was me. I had a feeling we would end up on the same page. I still enjoyed TDKR quite a bit, but it is definitely disappointing given what the movie could have been with more polish to the story and less fan service.

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Not even Christopher Nolan can escape the 3rd Movie Curse.

[Ninja Scooter]

Not even Christopher Nolan can escape the 3rd Movie Curse.

Does it work in reverse for James Cameron so that Avatar 3 might actually be good?

[DMczaf]

Dude, he's really angry right now. Let him have his time!

[shagg_187]

Not even Christopher Nolan can escape the 3rd Movie Curse.

He did. Next!

[Discotheque]

I love you guys too. Solo is delusional at the moment. He lacks the will to do what is necessary.

[bangladesh]

Dude, he's really angry right now. Let him have his time!

I'm not angry..

I'm.. wait yeah I'm angry.

TDKR audience: HAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[Good Job Bob]

Nice to see the movie is somewhat polarizing, makes me even more excited to see it.

[TheAtomicPile]

Superman: The Movie is in a league of its own. Nothing will ever top that movie. BB and DKR have come the closest, but they're still not quite there.

[Jarmel]

I will say this, this is a great end to the trilogy as a whole. It really does a great job of incorporating a lot of stuff from prior movies and elevates both the prior films. Unlike say Indiana Jones, this feels like a trilogy and all the movies are better for it.

[smokeymicpot]

Second time I loved it more. I know it has problems but one hell of a ride. Imax js awesome.

[Scullibundo]

I will say this, this is a great end to the trilogy as a whole. It really does a great job of incorporating a lot of stuff from prior movies and elevates both the prior films. Unlike say Indiana Jones, this feels like a trilogy and all the movies are better for it.

Last Crusade > TDKR

[SuperEpicMan]

Finally going to see this today after work. I loved both of the previous films equally for the different feels each had so I think I will love this one the same.

[strafer]

The most perfect trilogy in the world.

The Godfather.