[cj_iwakura]

I loved how he kept using Scarecrow in recurring ways without him stealing the spotlight. Such a Batman thing to do. I wished Nolan could keep doing this films if only to maintain his awesome villain menagerie.

[Dreams-Visions]

I did think of this too.

would have been fantastic.

[reggieandTFE]

Permaban me please if none of this takes place in the film. Talia provided all the tumblers for Bane. She used Wayne so she could work for him and steal all of his equiptment. You find this out before she has Lucius killed.

Why does this guy still have an account?

[cj_iwakura]

Why does this guy still have an account?

That first page was a fun read.

[MMaRsu]

I loved how he kept using Scarecrow in recurring ways without him stealing the spotlight. Such a Batman thing to do. I wished Nolan could keep doing this films if only to maintain his awesome villain menagerie.

Yeah I also loved the usage of Crane :D

[TheKaeptain]

Neither do I. Like I said, the shot where we see it seemed so random.

Remember the hot poker stick in RA's house? Probably that.

[cj_iwakura]

Yeah I also loved the usage of Crane :D

Even in the second movie, Batman beating him up in such a trivial way, like he keeps showing up for no real reason other than to start drama.


I would watch a movie focused on Cillian Murphy's Crane.

[CosmicGroinPull]

Neither do I. Like I said, the shot where we see it seemed so random.

The League of Shadows brand was a small circle with a line pattern running across it. I'm too lazy to screencap.

[King of the Potato People]

Saw it last night. It was my least favorite of the three, but it was still a good movie. Bane was surprisingly cool. Talia twist was great; JGL is boss...glad he got a lot of screen time. I just think that the pacing and the script were worse. Nolan lost his sense of subtlety with TDKR.

What subtlety in the other Batman films?

[neojubei]

MOTHERFUCKING DICK GRAYSON!

I love you. He was an awesome Batman.

[JumpingTheGun]

Not sure what the crowd situation will be like today down here by Ft. Lauderdale. Heading to the noon IMAX show in about 20 minutes.

[Skiptastic]

I thought it was funny that Bruce goes to the doctor, 'bales out' and then is immediately in Gordon's room holding his hand. That was funny, like how Nolan didn't waste anyones time with that.

That's editing. We don't need to see how he breaks into his room. We take it as a matter of faith. If he cut from the doctor leaving to Bruce in Gordon's room, that would be awkward. But the way it was done is fine.

[Man]

Seeing this again tomorrow in IMAX (Melbourne). The largest scope movie ever on the largest screen & sound, can't wait.

I've seen huge movies like LOTR, Ben-hur etc but The Dark Knight Rises is easily the largest scope I have witnessed in motion picture. Just how they film the city, the practical effects, the months it span, the soundtrack. So amazing.

[Wilbur]

I thought this during the movie, that if some criminal were handed a gun, wouldn't one just shoot Bane. Someone had to not like what he was doing. Easy to dismiss, but I definitely thought it

You could say that about every dictator that ever lived. Why did no one just shoot Hitler? Why did no one just shoot Gaddafi? Why did no one just shoot Saddam?

They were living in fear. There were enough that believed in him and were indoctrinated by him so that someone rising up would send them into anger

As for Joker, I think if Ledger had lived it would have been a difficult choice. Either Nolan repeats himself and has Joker as big bad or just has him as a cameo. I think it would have worked however between Bruce escaping from the pit and returning to Gotham is visiting Arkham, disconnected from the mainland due to exploded bridges and Joker acting like Hannibal. I don't know what exactly, but he wants Bruce to win. He wants Gotham to survive so that when he escapes, he is the one to bring it to his knees. He would have been wasted in Crane's role; why would he spend his time sitting in court when he could be out there fucking with Gotham and Batman in a more anarchic way. Even the idea of any kind of court goes against what he stands for. As it stands though I'm completely fine with no Joker reference. I understand why and Nolan's reasons are far more important than a bunch of crybabies that love Joker.

Before the film I also would have loved to see 20 years down the line white hair Gordon, white hair Bruce, and a recast Joker in a loose adaptation of TDKReturns. But as the ending in this was so satisfying, I don't really have that desire anymore.

[Dany M]

That's editing. We don't need to see how he breaks into his room. We take it as a matter of faith. If he cut from the doctor leaving to Bruce in Gordon's room, that would be awkward. But the way it was done is fine.

I Agee. Some folks wanted to know how bruce entered Gotham after leaving the pit. Again, we don't need that scene

[Anton Sugar]

I Agee. Some folks wanted to know how bruce entered Gotham after leaving the pit. Again, we don't need that scene

Not the same at all. One is an editing choice with a connecting scene (jumping out the window), the other just happens with no explanation.

If he still had his money, it wouldn't be an issue. But he doesn't.

[raphier]

I Agee. Some folks wanted to know how bruce entered Gotham after leaving the pit. Again, we don't need that scene

With that mentality we don't need to see the movie, just the ending.

[Totakeke]

I Agee. Some folks wanted to know how bruce entered Gotham after leaving the pit. Again, we don't need that scene

Actually, how did Batman go up to the tip of all those tall buildings in the trilogy? If he simply climbed up, why did he do all that anyway? Just for sweeping shots of the cities? For what?!


Inconsistency in logic, off character moments, worst trilogy ever, just burn it to the ground.

[kodecraft]

Why do a Robin movie when the movie heavily hints at a BATMAN BEYOND?

This is exactly what I was thinking.

[Messypandas]

There should have been more statues. Like a Harvey Dent one outside Blackgate, and when the prisoners tear it down it topples over and half its face smashes. Dat poetry

[Dany M]

With that mentality we don't need to see the movie, just the ending.

He swam.

[planar1280]

So is the bluray set gonna be a bunch of discs stacked up in a well?

why does it fall Mr Wayne? so we can learn to use a tweezer to pull it up.

[DrEvil]

I think you guys are missing the whole metaphor of Bane's 'born in darkness'.

Bane wasn't ALWAYS bane.. he was the friend/protector of Talia.. she was LITERALLY born in darkness, but he was FIGURATIVELY born in darkness.

He helped her escape, and when he was attacked/savaged by the rest of the inmates, that was when BANE was 'born in darkness'. The doctor did his handiwork and gave him the mask, and thus begun the reign of bane. Simple. Straight forward. No plot holes.


(PS: I knew from the get-go that the kid wasn't bane, the child had blue eyes while Bane has brown... just didn't see it being Mal--er Talia).


I also really enjoyed that the first fight between bane and batman (Where he breaks his back) had absolutely NO music. Incredibly impactful.



One thing I didn't like? They made no attempt to hide that they filmed in NYC... The freedom tower, Saks fifth, 'wall street station'.. so many things were obvious.. kinda bothered me.. at least when they used Chicago they hid the big landmark buildings.

[Dany M]

Why did the other prisoners beat up bane as he was helping talis escape?

[tapedeck]

Saw it on IMAX last night, I thought it was pretty good. I actually like Bane's voice I thought it fit very well, and Catwoman was very well done Anne Hathaway did a great job. The prison stuff for me was way over the top but maybe I'm just not getting it. I get that he needed to bring the fear of death back to his life for a lot of reasons I just thought that the other prisoners were kinda cheesy/cliche.

Slightly OT, while waiting for the movie to start some kid (maybe 16y/o) in the theater thought it would be funny to yell "everybody duck!" Yeah a cop and two ushers escorted him out while the audience clapped and mocked him.

[NullPointer]

Why did the other prisoners beat up bane as he was helping talis escape?

I'm pretty sure they wanted a piece of her, and that she would have suffered the same fate as her mother.

[kodecraft]

Nolan's biggest problem is that he develops an uncontrollable hard on for certain actors and he shoehorns them into his work. The Coen brothers reuse a lot of actors as well, but one gets the feeling that they never write parts with certain actors in mind. That's not the case for Nolan.

Quetin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez recasts alot of actors as well.

[Dutch Patriot]

2 things

1. Anne Hathaway was so insanely hot.
2. One thing was really fake to me, nobody let's Hines Ward return a punt. He's the slowest man alive.

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Why did the other prisoners beat up bane as he was helping talis escape?

Was it a continuation of "the child had a protector?" from when the men broke into her mother's cell?


I think the dudes were kind of Pedo-ish after being in hell for so long and they were just mad he ruined their good time.


Paints the doped up doctor in a worse light now.Bruce sure is wishing he didn't leave a rope for them now!

[Wilbur]

Why did the other prisoners beat up bane as he was helping talis escape?

Born with a ruby the size of a tangerine up her arse

[Dany M]

Born with a ruby the size of a tangerine up her arse

THAT SPEED THAT VEROCITY!

[Tobor]

I was surprised by how truly stupid the plot was. Also, Bane was terrible and there was way too much JGL.

Other than that, I really liked it.

[Carbonox]

Just watched a 15 minute 'Making Of'. The set designers are the unsung heroes of the film given that they built Bane's sewer HQ, the Batcave and the underground jail from scratch. Incredible.

Tom Hardy also says how he felt like a 3 year old when he first saw Christian Bale in the Batsuit. Must have been awe-inspiring seeing that for the first time and you're all "holy crap it's Batman". Though it must have been even more fun to get to pound on him. :lol

Man, I need to go see the film again. The hype hasn't left me at all.

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I also really enjoyed that the first fight between bane and batman (Where he breaks his back) had absolutely NO music. Incredibly impactful.

Yeah, I liked how Batman was so beat down, breathing heavily, and growling.

[Dreams-Visions]

I was surprised by how many truly stupid the plot was. Also, Bane was terrible and there was way too much JGL. Other than that, I really liked it.

yea, the whole fusion bomb with exact detonation timer thing was probably the dumbest idea I've seen out of such a good movie and writing team.

[CosmicGroinPull]

I Agee. Some folks wanted to know how bruce entered Gotham after leaving the pit. Again, we don't need that scene Not the same at all. One is an editing choice with a connecting scene (jumping out the window), the other just happens with no explanation. If he still had his money, it wouldn't be an issue. But he doesn't.

......

[ThanksVision]

Man, I still love the first fight scene between Bane & Bats. When the gate closes between Batman and Catwoman, and Bane is in the background... Pure terror. You know he's about to get his ass kicked. That scene is brutal.

[legacyzero]

I might be getting some hate for this.

I've never been in the camp of liking JGL as much as GAF. But seeing him last night in TDKR was awesome. He was perfect. And when he walked out onto that platform and it began rising beneath his feet.

Man... I shed a tear for that. So awesome.

Man, I still love the first fight scene between Bane & Bats. When the gate closes between Batman and Catwoman, and Bane is in the background... Pure terror. You know he's about to get his ass kicked. That scene is brutal.

LOL I love how frustrated he got!

RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGH!!!

[Anton Sugar]

......

Again, at the very least, you could say he had some money, or at least had Alfred to make a phone call to. He has neither in TDKR.

[rollingstart]

Bane "So you came back to die with your city."
Batman "No. I came back to stop you."

Weak comeback from Batman.

[Protome]

yea, the whole fusion bomb with exact detonation timer thing was probably the dumbest idea I've seen out of such a good movie and writing team.

The bomb was quite silly. Especially since it started being non-exact, the scientist was like "Idunno it'll blow up in a couple of months or so" And then it's "IT WILL BLOW UP AT EXACTLY THIS SECOND ON THIS DAY."

[params7]

I think Catwomen ruined the movie. No character development, comes out of nowhere to rival Batman in acrobats and costume, all her scenes were predictable and just cheesy and that ending kiss felt completely out of place, other people were laughing in my theater at that scene. Batman is ONE hero out of all that looks better single than in a relationship..I thought Nolan had this completely figured out when he blew up the female lead in TDK. Even if he did wanted romance Talia was good enough, imo.

[Totakeke]

Again, at the very least, you could say he had some money, or at least had Alfred to make a phone call to. He has neither in TDKR.

Or you're just reading that he lost his fortune too literally. Richest guy in the city doesn't have some money stored offshore?

[Carbonox]

Man, I still love the first fight scene between Bane & Bats. When the gate closes between Batman and Catwoman, and Bane is in the background... Pure terror. You know he's about to get his ass kicked. That scene is brutal.

Yep. I remember tensing up cos I knew shit was about to get real ugly. Bane's running commentary just further humiliated Batman.

I do enjoy their final fight though, irrelevant of how quickly it ends. When Bane goes in to rage mode and the insane flurry of punches he throws before beating up the column...man...no normal person would have survived that, which helped to highlight the near-superhuman strength of the guy.

[Veelk]

Again, at the very least, you could say he had some money, or at least had Alfred to make a phone call to. He has neither in TDKR.

He's fucking Batman. It'd be less believable that he wouldn't be able to find a way into the city. It's not like he did it in a short time either. He left the prison when there were 20+ days left on the clock, and he got back when there were only a few more hours. He had plenty of time to find a way. I'm surprised you guys are so bothered by it. I didn't think for a second that it was surprising that Bruce made it back.

Or you're just reading that he lost his fortune too literally. Richest guy in the city doesn't have some money stored offshore?

There. Perfectly plausible explanation. Especially with it being Bat-preptime-man.

[legacyzero]

Bane "So you came back to die with your city." Batman "No. I came back to stop you." Weak comeback from Batman.

Yeah, that was a bit of an awkward moment lol.

He made up for it with his "permission to die" comment later though.

[Eidan]

I think Catwomen ruined the movie. No character development, comes out of nowhere to rival Batman in acrobats and costume, all her scenes were predictable and just cheesy and that ending kiss felt completely out of place, other people were laughing in my theater at that scene. Batman is ONE hero out of all that looks better single than in a relationship..I thought Nolan had this completely figured out when he blew up the female lead in TDK.

Batman should be alone. Bruce Wayne on the other hand needs to have some kind of human connection. Having him be with someone at the end makes sense, and perfectly fits the narrative that Nolan has been building throughout the entire narrative.

[Totakeke]

I think Joker ruined the movie. No character development, comes out of nowhere to rival Batman in acrobats and costume, all his scenes were predictable and just cheesy and that ending dialogue felt completely out of place, other people were laughing in my theater at that scene. Batman is ONE hero out of all that looks better..I thought Nolan had this completely figured out when he blew up the villian in TDK. Even if he did wanted romance Rachel was good enough, imo.

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[Jason's Ultimatum]

I still think the first half of the movie that focused on Bruce Wayne was better than the second half.

[J2 Cool]

You could say that about every dictator that ever lived. Why did no one just shoot Hitler? Why did no one just shoot Gaddafi? Why did no one just shoot Saddam? They were living in fear. There were enough that believed in him and were indoctrinated by him so that someone rising up would send them into anger

It made sense to me. Its different from any other dictator though. Bane didn't give any orders. He said "take back your city". There was a sense of chaos to the whole thing. I think the cleanliness of prisoners = allies to the villain that is somewhat amusing. That they'd share a common goal. But mostly, I was just agreeing with someone about the unspoken allegiance they create with Bane instantly, was weird. They weren't "living in fear". They were just released from prisons and handed guns. They were empowered. But I don't think it should have been handled differently necessarily.