[krae_man]

Yeah Joe Danger is more Gripshift then Trials. It's a platformer/Racer Hybrid.

[V_Ben]

I didn't get the first Joe Danger cause I was burned out on Trails HD but when the sequel comes out, I'll be fresh enough to pick it up. All XBLA games display in 1080p so that isn't an extra feature. And if the PC version Od Limbo got the extra content as well then it wasn't Sony's rule to have the content. Looks like it is a recommended request by Sony and not a solid rule. Well, Braid doesn't have any extra content and arrived on PSN a year later so it proves that wrong regardless of what they said. Unless they just recently made the comment and it is a new rule.

I think its fair to say that Sony's rules when games come to PSN are probably more "oh, you want to self publish your hit XBLA game on our platform? Go right ahead!"

wow they made it XBLA exclusive after PS3 owners made the original a hit?

I think there may be more to it than that, its likely that some stuff went on behind the scenes that caused this.

[Speedymanic]

Man, that looks incredible. And it's a 360 exclusive to boot? Hot damn, Live Arcade is unstoppable this year. PSN is going to have a very hard time keeping up.

[jet1911]

wow they made it XBLA exclusive after PS3 owners made the original a hit?

I guess MS offered them a pretty good deal.

[toythatkills]

I think its fair to say that Sony's rules when games come to PSN are probably more "oh, you want to self publish your hit XBLA game on our platform? Go right ahead!"

Pretty sure it's a fair bit more complex than that, but it does sound like it's easier than XBLA. But then stuff sells better on XBLA, so it might be worth the effort.

[V_Ben]

Pretty sure it's a fair bit more complex than that, but it does sound like it's easier than XBLA. But then stuff sells better on XBLA, so it might be worth the effort.

I know its more complex, i'm just saying that they might bend their own rules regarding exclusive content when it comes to putting games on PSN that have been big hits on other platforms.

[Shurs]

I didn't get the first Joe Danger cause I was burned out on Trails HD but when the sequel comes out, I'll be fresh enough to pick it up.

They're not even close to being similar games.

[Drencrom]

Man, that looks incredible. And it's a 360 exclusive to boot? Hot damn, Live Arcade is unstoppable this year. PSN is going to have a very hard time keeping up.

Oh it's that pr guy again.

[toythatkills]

Oh it's that pr guy again.

Are you really going to argue that XBLA hasn't been amazing this year?

Really?

[V_Ben]

Are you really going to argue that XBLA hasn't been amazing this year? Really?

I'd say that both platforms have had some pretty good stuff this year. From Journey to Fez, there's been some great stuff everywhere.

[marcurius]

This is a very strange opinion. You paid what you thought the game was worth, you enjoyed the game and it represented good value for money, and you clearly think it was a good purchase. None of this changes just because the game comes out on another console with a few extra levels. You've got the same game you liked before, it's not somehow worse now, it's the same as it was before. Also, comparing Joe Danger to Trials should be punishable by kick in the balls.

Seemed to be quite a bit more than a few extra levels. In their own words: "almost double the gameplay again, including new environments, new levels, and new characters". The 360 version also got free DLC days after it was released, while the PSN version barely got any at all, paid or otherwise (may very well be wrong about this, I know I've checked it before but I can't quite recall if there actually was anything there and I can't check for myself at the moment).

It's great that they put the game out on other platforms, but when I picked up their game day one and wasn't even offered to buy any of the additional stuff they've produced, I feel that there are plenty of other indie devs I'd rather support than these guys. Especially coupled with their complete silence with regards to the PSN version.

[V_Ben]

Seemed to be quite a bit more than a few extra levels. In their own words: "almost double the gameplay again, including new environments, new levels, and new characters". The 360 version also got free DLC days after it was released, while the PSN version never got any at all, paid or otherwise. It's great that they put the game out on other platforms, but when I picked up their game day one and wasn't even offered to buy any of the additional stuff they've produced, I feel that there are plenty of other indie devs I'd rather support than these guys.

The PSN version did actually get some paid DLC, in the form of some additional characters to play as :)

[funkystudent]

Sony should have dont a better job signing them to a deal after the first game.

I bet the pub fund contract probably has a clause now stating at any sequel has to make a appearance on a sony platform at launch now or something because of this.


I guess it only makes sense a developer would jump to another platform if they can get a better deal but Hello Games could have done a better job not coming across like jackasses doing it.

[marcurius]

The PSN version did actually get some paid DLC, in the form of some additional characters to play as :)

Alright, caught me in my edit :P Thanks for the info.

[BruiserBear]

I'd say that both platforms have had some pretty good stuff this year. From Journey to Fez, there's been some great stuff everywhere.

I don't even think it's been close for 2012, but please don't turn this into a list war.

[V_Ben]

I don't even think it's even been close for 2012, but please don't turn this into a list war.

That's exactly what i'm trying to avoid by saying "both have had great stuff" :P

[Speedymanic]

Are you really going to argue that XBLA hasn't been amazing this year? Really?

Less about so far, more about what's coming. LA is on fire in terms of exclusives, PSN just can't compete in my opinion.

[see5harp]

This game was bought day one when it came out for PS3 and will be bought day one the day the sequel comes out for 360. Stop acting like a bunch of whiny bitches and support great devs. MS must have offered a deal they couldn't pass on.

[OldJadedGamer]

This game was bought day one when it came out for PS3 and will be bought day one the day the sequel comes out for 360. Stop acting like a bunch of whiny bitches and support great devs. MS must have offered a deal they couldn't pass on.

Not all gamers have all systems. But saying you are skipping a good game just because of some system war stuff is silly. If you like the game, get it when it comes to the platform you own.

[Speedymanic]

Not all gamers have all systems. But saying you are skipping a good game just because of some system war stuff is silly. If you like the game, get it when it comes to the platform you own.

It's not really system war fluff. As it's now a 360 exclusive, it's natural that fans of the game on PS3 will feel hard done by as they
(rightly or wrongly) feel that they had a part in making the first game a success.

[coldfoot]

Less about so far, more about what's coming. LA is on fire in terms of exclusives, PSN just can't compete in my opinion.

And for someone who couldn't care less for arcade twitch games, PSN is superior...

[Kenshin001]

Pretty sure it's a fair bit more complex than that, but it does sound like it's easier than XBLA. But then stuff sells better on XBLA, so it might be worth the effort.

Joe Danger actually sold better on PSN. They sold more in one week on PSN than in months on XBLA.

[coldfoot]

Joe Danger actually sold better on PSN. They sold more in one week on PSN than in months on XBLA.

That's probably because the word got out that it was boring as hell. I was one of those people who bought it in the first week and got bored with it very quickly.

[NoirVisage]

Sony should have dont a better job signing them to a deal after the first game. I bet the pub fund contract probably has a clause now stating at any sequel has to make a appearance on a sony platform at launch now or something because of this. I guess it only makes sense a developer would jump to another platform if they can get a better deal but Hello Games could have done a better job not coming across like jackasses doing it.

My thoughts exactly, i was actually prepared to bite the bullet and get the first one until i found a thread about the fiasco. "Playtesters" ..cute.

[Combichristoffersen]

That's probably because the word got out that it was boring as hell. I was one of those people who bought it in the first week and got bored with it very quickly.

Yep. A friend of mine bought it off PSN, so I got to play around with it, and frankly it was a snoozefest.

[toythatkills]

Joe Danger actually sold better on PSN. They sold more in one week on PSN than in months on XBLA.

If you can't see what's wrong with that comparison then I don't know what to say. How are sales of Castle Crashers on PSN vs. XBLA, do you suppose?

That's not comparable either.

[Kenshin001]

That's probably because the word got out that it was boring as hell. I was one of those people who bought it in the first week and got bored with it very quickly.

It sold pretty well on PSN though, probably as well as Fez on XBLA. To be honest I felt the same way, picked it up because I wanted to support indie devs but lost interest really quick. A few of my friends have really high scores so they must have enjoyed it.

Going to be interesting to see how it sells as A) the first one didn't set the XBLA world on fire, B) it's coming out after SoA and C) Trials Evo sold a ton and people think the game is similar.

[NoirVisage]

If you can't see what's wrong with that comparison then I don't know what to say. How are sales of Castle Crashers on PSN vs. XBLA, do you suppose? That's not comparable either.

enlighten the ignorant masses..why is it not?

[BruiserBear]

It sold pretty well on PSN though, probably as well as Fez on XBLA. To be honest I felt the same way, picked it up because I wanted to support indie devs but lost interest really quick. A few of my friends have really high scores so they must have enjoyed it. Going to be interesting to see how it sells as A) the first one didn't set the XBLA world on fire, B) it's coming out after SoA and C) Trials Evo sold a ton and people think the game is similar.

It's not at all similar to Trials Evo. The sequel even more so.

enlighten the ignorant masses..why is it not?

Because a game is never going to sell as well when it shows up a year or two later on another platform? Seems like common sense to me.

[toythatkills]

Because a game is never going to sell as well when it shows up a year or two later on another platform? Seems like common sense to me.

Exactly, same reason you can't compare Castle Crashers, or LIMBO, or Braid, or anything else.

[Kenshin001]

It's not at all similar to Trials Evo. The sequel even more so. Because a game is never going to sell as well when it shows up a year or two later on another platform? Seems like common sense to me.

That's still what people are going to think though, whether it's true or not. A poster even said that is why he didn't get the first one.

The original claim was:

But then stuff sells better on XBLA, so it might be worth the effort.

Obviously it doesn't always. Even games that release concurrently don't automatically sell better on XBLA. Skullgirls for example was an even split. As far as your theory goes it remains to be seen. I'm pretty sure Sine Mora is going to sell more on PSN because it is a shmup with Grasshopper's name and the PS3 user base is bigger in Japan.

[BruiserBear]

That's still what people are going to think though, whether it's true or not. A poster even said that is why he didn't get the first one. Obviously it doesn't always. Even games that release concurrently don't automatically sell better on XBLA. Skullgirls for example was an even split. As far as your theory goes it remains to be seen. I'm pretty sure Sine Mora is going to sell more on PSN because it is a shmup with Grasshopper's name and the PS3 user base is bigger in Japan.

I expect you'll see Joe Danger 2 sell much better when it launches exclusively on XBLA. Then we'll have a fair comparison.

[Kenshin001]

I expect you'll see Joe Danger 2 sell much better when it launches exclusively on XBLA. Then we'll have a fair comparison.

I agree, Joe Danger on PSN vs. Joe Danger 2 on XBLA. Seems fair to me.

[mujun]

And for someone who couldn't care less for arcade twitch games, PSN is superior...

Good argument. I'll try that one next time I want to champion the retail lineup of the 360 vs the PS3.

[NoirVisage]

I expect you'll see Joe Danger 2 sell much better when it launches exclusively on XBLA. Then we'll have a fair comparison.

That doesn't even make sense.
Joe Danger took a YEAR to get to XBLA? Never knew that.

[Valru]

Joe Danger took a YEAR to get to XBLA? Never knew that.

Joe Danger (PSN) June 8, 2010
Joe Danger: SE (XBLA) December 14, 2011

[solidus51]

m$ exclusive? thats crazy

[NoirVisage]

Joe Danger (PSN) June 8, 2010 Joe Danger: SE (XBLA) December 14, 2011

eh, then it is what it is, Thanks commander sisko