dragonelite
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#201

Originally Posted by Baller, PhD: View Post
I can't believe my stream is working so perfectly... on a Mac... in Safari.

<3 Verizon FIOS
same here on win8 + chrome or i just have way too much bandwidth :P
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#202

Originally Posted by 2MF: View Post
He says Doom 4 so many times, he's either immersed in it or worried about it.
He pretty much just said that the entire company is going to all hands with Doom 4 soon.
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#203

oh god FU JOHN FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU, that's why you didn't put flashlight in game!!!!!!!!!!

//i understand John doom 3 ran like shit on my PC, that flashlight would of brought my fps from 20 to 19............
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#204

Carmack sucks at Mario games!
dragonelite
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#205

Originally Posted by Delusibeta: View Post
Carmack sucks at Mario games!
Mario was hard back then man(i was 6~8 back then :P).
Especially unlocking some secrets levels.
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#206

I love this. I want a weekly podcast called "On There" where it's just John talking for 3 hours about his current work.
Xyber
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(08-02-2012, 10:06 PM)
#207

Oh god, what happened to the sound!?
PnCIa
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#208

Originally Posted by RadixNegative2: View Post
I love this. I want a weekly podcast called "On There" where it's just John talking for 3 hours about his current work.
I´m dying here, would be an awesome name for a podcast ;D
BlackBanditSho
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(08-02-2012, 10:08 PM)
#209

Everything Carmack is saying is breaking my heart. Rage was awesome. Flawed? sure, but VERY good. Dissolving the mobile game division - despite making money - to focus on games that hit it out of the park for Bethesda is lamentable. When Carmack is excited to tinker with fun, quick-out- concepts that play in the mobile world, we get great stuff like RAGE on iOS, and gaming is better for it. Until RAGE, we didn't even think iOS could push those kinds of graphics!

But the thing that's REALLY killing me is that he's saying that he's acknowledging the difficulty level in older games when compared to newer games, and compensating accordingly. WTF?@! Doom 3 was many things, but NOT hard. The ammo-stinginess and darkness was what made DOOM 3 so appealing. This...'push', it seems, by Bethesda, to make the games more (and these are my own words) "accessible", is very disturbing.

Rage, for all of it's faults, was the best 'feeling' shooter I've played in YEARS. ID makes games that PLAY right. IF Bethesda is taking away their slavish devotion to fidelity and performance (albeit slow), their 'hardcore' feel, and their fun side projects...

..Now I'm VERY concerned. I really like Carmack, both as a person and a visionary genius. I wish he was a Valve. Seriously.

And I'm a console guy.
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#210

Damn i totally missed Carmack talk :(
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#211

Carmack' son better make Doom 13 on id-tech 9 in the future
Technosteve
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#212

when will you talk about your rocket ships john
Delusibeta
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#213

Originally Posted by Fersis: View Post
Damn i totally missed Carmack talk :(
He's still talking, dude.
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#214

Originally Posted by Fersis: View Post
Damn i totally missed Carmack talk :(
He is live!!!
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#215

Originally Posted by Fersis: View Post
Damn i totally missed Carmack talk :(
He's still talking, man.

http://www.own3d.tv/QuakeCon/live/95671
KingKong
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#216

yeah its a little sad to hear him talk about this. its pretty obvious that he always just wanted to program and Romero + their little team is what made such great games. now he has a big team of people that lead to something as mediocre and muddled as Rage, and I don't expect much from Doom 4
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#217

Damn I love listening to this guy.
ciridesu
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#218

Hearing Carmack speak always gives me the weirdest boner

Originally Posted by BlackBanditSho: View Post
Everything Carmack is saying is breaking my heart. Rage was awesome. Flawed? sure, but VERY good. Dissolving the mobile game division - despite making money - to focus on games that hit it out of the park for Bethesda is lamentable. When Carmack is excited to tinker with fun, quick-out- concepts that play in the mobile world, we get great stuff like RAGE on iOS.

But the thing that's REALLY killing me is that he's saying that he's acknowledging the difficulty level in older games when compared to newer games, and compensating accordingly. WTF?@! Doom 3 was many things, but NOT hard. The ammo-stinginess and darkness was what made DOOM 3 so appealing. This...'push', it seems, by Bethesda, to make the games more (and these are my own words) "accessible", is very disturbing.

Rage, for all of it's faults, was the best 'feeling' shooter I've played in YEARS. ID makes games that PLAY right. IF Bethesda is taking away their slavish devotion to fidelity and performance (albeit slow), their 'hardcore' feel, and their fun side projects...

..Now I'm VERY concerned. I really like Carmack, both as a person and a visionary genius. I wish he was a Valve. Seriously.

And I'm a console guy.
To be fair id's main issue last decade was lack of proper development lead, direction and focus, and I feel Bethesda can really help in that regard as they have good personnel for it.

The leaked Doom 4 pictures didn't look like the doom I've been waiting for and proper reassessment all-around was seemingly needed. I'd claim id still has the most say in the big design philosophy decisions and such so I'm not that worried about it.
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2MF
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#219

One of these years I'll have to spend $1000 on a round-trip to Texas around August...
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#220

YES!
lol at the thought of programmers arguing with Carmack about best practices. lol

Game Engines are more complex than NASA code - Programming God Carmack
KingKong
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#221

haha just casually dropping that he's working on the next xbox and playstation, so cool
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#222

Originally Posted by KingKong: View Post
haha just casually dropping that he's working on the next xbox and playstation, so cool
Well at least on Xbox, it is known he is one of the few developers on the advisory panel for Xbox hardware

So it would be likely he's been talking with at least Microsoft about it for a long while now
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#223

More Mac shit, fuck yeah. :-)
2MF
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#224

"Intel's latest integrated graphics are good, the drivers are not" <- paraphrased.
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#225

Just casually dropped in Steam Box to the talk
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#226

Quote from the live chat: "i couldnt work with guy who has such verbal diarrhea". I love hearing John talking about anything but this is funny :P
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#227

Originally Posted by Randdalf: View Post
Just casually dropped in Steam Box to the talk
What?
Baller, PhD
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#228

He hasn't even paused to take a drink of water. Dude is an animal.
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#229

Originally Posted by DopeyFish: View Post
Well at least on Xbox, it is known he is one of the few developers on the advisory panel for Xbox hardware

So it would be likely he's been talking with at least Microsoft about it for a long while now
I believe he is also part of the DirectX panel or am i confused?
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#230

Originally Posted by PnCIa: View Post
Quote from the live chat: "i couldnt work with guy who has such verbal diarrhea". I love hearing John talking about anything but this is funny :P
I think that term is highly inappropriate in the context of Carmack, but if it's funny for some then all the power to them ;)
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#231

I want more than one Doom every decade John!!
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#232

Originally Posted by ekim: View Post
What?
He was talking about Valve and mentioned Steam Box but I think he was speculating.
KingKong
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#233

I wonder if he would have a better time working at Valve where they would just give him whatever he wants to work on engines or drivers or anything

it seems like he's really being constrained by Bethesda and by iD basically needing to make Doom 4
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#234

Originally Posted by dragonelite: View Post
I believe he is also part of the DirectX panel or am i confused?
Without a doubt, he is.
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#235

Originally Posted by Randdalf: View Post
He was talking about Valve and mentioned Steam Box but I think he was speculating.
He made it very clear that he has no insider info which is why he can speculate (no NDAs).
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#236

I hope I can watch this later on YouTube.
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#237

Originally Posted by Raptor: View Post
I want more than one Doom every decade John!!
Me too, I'm will get disappointed if they don't show anything this year :/
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#238

The VR tech talk started <3 <3 <3
2MF
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#239

All this talk about latency makes me think he's not a fan of Onlive :P
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#240

Originally Posted by 2MF: View Post
All this talk about latency makes me think he's not a fan of Onlive :P
Turns out he's not a fan of most monitor manufacturers.
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#241

Fuck input lag!!!! Long Live Carmack!!!
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#242

oh wow. He just dropped some mad truth on latency with TVs/monitors

This man...
dragonelite
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(08-02-2012, 10:32 PM)

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#243

Originally Posted by Fried Food: View Post
oh wow. He just dropped some mad truth on latency with TVs/monitors

This man...
He twittered a lot about it some months ago.
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#244

Originally Posted by Fried Food: View Post
oh wow. He just dropped some mad truth on latency with TVs/monitors

This man...
Like last year IIRC.
Lazy Jones
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#245

Originally Posted by dragonelite: View Post
He twittered a lot about it some months ago.
Yep, I remember seeing it on there.
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#246

Originally Posted by dragonelite: View Post
He twittered a lot about it some months ago.
Yeah those were some damn good tweets
2MF
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#247

He wisely pointed out that it should not take longer for a frame to get from the computer to your eyes two feet away, than a TCP/IP packet travelling from the US to Europe...
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#248

carmack is a blast and a joy to watch. What a great guy
derFeef
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#249

Bios drift.
?
2MF
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(08-02-2012, 10:44 PM)

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#250

Originally Posted by derFeef: View Post
Bios drift.
?
Bias. I think.