[Souless_PJ]

Android - is a book of recipes, it can be as extravagant or simplistic as you want it, your way, your rules, hell make it your own restaurant or fast food burger joint, or a nice home cooked meal, but it feels like you own the place. iOS - is a fancy meal, at a fancy high priced stucked up resturant, there way, there food, you don't order, they order for you, completely automated either eat it or get out and they yell at you for eating it wrong....

I'd rather have a set degustation menu from the best chef in the world (Apple) then a make your own all you can eat buffet (Android) ;-p

[yogloo]

I always wonder why most developers chose to beat their android app with the ugly stick.

[-COOLIO-]

anyone know what the cheapest low end android device i could buy is?

itd be for app testing.

[Dicer]

I'd rather have a set degustation menu from the best chef in the world (Apple) then a make your own all you can eat buffet (Android) ;-p

$5 dollar word, I had to look that one up...but i'm also the type that would rather have buffet but that's just me. Some of the best eateries are mom-n-pops/small time chains that can give you a better meal than any 5star restaurant ever could.


Now i'm hungry, damn it all.

[The Faceless Master]

Android has real multitasking so i can idle on IRC and not get disconnected, and i can't go backwards in functionality on a device after being able to do that since WM6.

[saunderez]

anyone know what the cheapest low end android device i could buy is? itd be for app testing.

Probably one of the HDMI sticks. Make sure you get one with 1GB RAM if you go that way.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ak802-m...143249?item=96

It's a lot more usable than a low end Android phone and probably around the same price.

[Lothars]

nope and it's a great thing it's doing so well.

[Gustav]

I tried both iOS and Android and for me Android is far superior to iOS. I can do whatever I want with it, modify it, tweak it, have the root access, etc, etc, without resorting to jailbreak or whatever. It helps that my phone is a SGS2, which is an awesome smartphone. I still miss all those iOS apps and games though (Dodonpachi and Espgaluda II aren't available outside of Korea :( and there's no Chaos Rings for now )

To do what? Surf the web? Make a call? Check your emails?

Android has real multitasking so i can idle on IRC and not get disconnected, and i can't go backwards in functionality on a device after being able to do that since WM6.

I can do the same on Skype and Trillian on my iPhone.

[Mairu]

I tried both iOS and Android and for me Android is far superior to iOS. I can do whatever I want with it, modify it, tweak it, have the root access, etc, etc, without resorting to jailbreak or whatever. It helps that my phone is a SGS2, which is an awesome smartphone. I still miss all those iOS apps and games though (Dodonpachi and Espgaluda II aren't available outside of Korea :( and there's no Chaos Rings for now )

What is the difference between rooting an android phone and jailbreaking an iphone?

[Copernicus]

To do what? Surf the web? Make a call? Check your emails?

Load files from a USB drive.

Mount a network drive to pull files.

Start a mesh network.

These are viable computers in your pockets, not just app players.

[The Faceless Master]

I can do the same on Skype and Trillian on my iPhone.

wait, when did Skype and/or Trillian for iPhone add IRC support!?

[Messofanego]

My problem with Android OS is that it lacks a certain spirit, or joie de vivre in use. Nothing tickles the eyes, the ears, or the heart in use. Is it wrong to feel emotional over Apple's grid of icons? To love Microsoft's devotion to flat shaded boxes that slide to and fro? No. No it isn't. It's this unquantifiable essence, this umami - one I can neither define nor articulate properly because it's a trivial, illusionary point - that illustrates why Google sucks goats.

Apple fans are religious

[sun-drop]

android is far and away the best OS.


for eg. wifi direct, or even better S-beam

i can download via torrent a 1gb file to my phone, and then, with out the need for any internet connection wirelessly beam it directly to my mates phone.


if your IOs you err .... better hope there's some free wifi near by.


most my mates are on a droid of some sort, my IP4 toting mates are left looking like 2nd class hill-billys when it comes to file transfers.

meet at a bar, "heey do you have blah blah" ..."yep ..i'll send it to y .... oh ... ios ...sorry ... "

[scorcho]

meet at a bar, "heey do you have blah blah" ..."yep ..i'll send it to y .... oh ... ios ...sorry ... "

I can't wait to use this line later tonight. My friend is going to feel soooooooooo stupid.

[Mecha_Infantry]

android is far and away the best OS. for eg. wifi direct, or even better S-beam i can download via torrent a 1gb file to my phone, and then, with out the need for any internet connection wirelessly beam it directly to my mates phone. if your IOs you err .... better hope there's some free wifi near by. most my mates are on a droid of some sort, my IP4 toting mates are left looking like 2nd class hill-billys when it comes to file transfers. meet at a bar, "heey do you have blah blah" ..."yep ..i'll send it to y .... oh ... ios ...sorry ... "

My mum is 67, she needs something easy and intuitive- She owns an iPhone, so to her it's the best OS

See how stupid your example sounds?

[Grim1ock]

My mum is 67, she needs something easy and intuitive- She owns an iPhone, so to her it's the best OS See how stupid your example sounds?

are you implying android os is hard and confusing to use?

[Mecha_Infantry]

are you implying android os is hard and confusing to use?

That's neither here nor there

The point is such a random occurrence that is bound to happen once in a blue moon for most people != the reason why it's the best OS.

[sun-drop]

I can't wait to use this line later tonight. My friend is going to feel soooooooooo stupid.

was using an example of a place with typically no wifi around.


so apart from dodging the question ..how the hell do ios uses actually send a file to another person?


and no nfc.


two techs i use daily.


IOS is behind the curve _every_ year.


but i guess things are starting to look up ..i mean you get a whole 4 inches this year right? *amaze*

[RoadHazard]

I suspect in a couple of years android might catch up to Windows and Apple design wise.

Have you used an Android phone with stock Jelly Bean? Basing your opinion of Android on 2.x is like basing your opinion of Windows on XP. Sure, Windows might not be as fragmented (I have no idea how many are still on XP or Vista), but that's not the point.

I personally think Android has blasted right past iOS when it comes to graphical design (and most other things, but that's not the point here). iOS, with its faux brushed metals and wooden panels and shiny buttons and gradients on everything, just looks dated at this point. A more flat style feels much more modern and appealing in a mobile OS. Android and WP both got that right (although WP is a bit too simple and inflexible - boring, even - in my eyes).

[Gustav]

Load files from a USB drive. Mount a network drive to pull files. Start a mesh network. These are viable computers in your pockets, not just app players.

Okay. Looks like I have no use for any root access.

wait, when did Skype and/or Trillian for iPhone add IRC support!?

Didn't know it was about IRC specifically. It sounded like you were talking about the multitasking aspect.

[ScOULaris]

Am I surprised? Hell no.

When a company like Google releases an open-sourced operating system that scales to tablets and phones of all sizes, shapes, and price ranges, it's gonna be successful.

And when Google continues to improve the OS with major updates every year, it's of little surprise to me that those who own Android phones prefer them over iPhones and W7 Phones.

It's simply as good as it gets, with regard to smartphone OS's.

[Diablohead]

anyone know what the cheapest low end android device i could buy is? itd be for app testing.

Nexus 7 if you want a good tablet for £179 / $199 for sure, otherwise the samsung galaxy S (it's the same power as a galaxy ace 2 but without the phone parts, like an ipod touch) for about £100 in a sale.

Ah wait you said low, not sure as a lot of older androids have so many different chip sets, maybe a used galaxy ace if you want something weakish for cheap, those are 800mhz

[Soneet]

Looking around my world, it seems the Android users are starting to overtake the iOS users and WP7.5 (or just Nokia Lumia) is seen in 1 out of 40 people i come across, what happened to the WP revolution GAF was so excited about last year? For all the fragmentation talk and Android is doomed, i find most Android users are impervious to it. Androidites prefer their choice of phones, there is an Android phone everyone imo. The performance of the OS is also closing in on Apple. I hope Samsung release JB to SGS2 or i may have to change to a new Sony Xperia or One X later this year. What new features might iPhone5 bring? Android tablets still suck bag of shit though.

It's because those threads and articles are usually not made by Android users. It's just a good usable mobile OS. Same way people aren't really 'proud' of their Windows: they just use it and are comfortable with it.

[werks]

To do what? Surf the web? Make a call? Check your emails?

First thing I did with my Nexus 7 was to root to... just out of habit since I always jailbroke my iPhone for tethering. Took me a while to find a use for it but adblock was a damn good one. No more mobile ads.

[StrangeADT]

Looking around my world, it seems the Android users are starting to overtake the iOS users and WP7.5 (or just Nokia Lumia) is seen in 1 out of 40 people i come across, what happened to the WP revolution GAF was so excited about last year? For all the fragmentation talk and Android is doomed, i find most Android users are impervious to it. Androidites prefer their choice of phones, there is an Android phone everyone imo. The performance of the OS is also closing in on Apple. I hope Samsung release JB to SGS2 or i may have to change to a new Sony Xperia or One X later this year. What new features might iPhone5 bring? Android tablets still suck bag of shit though.

Well iPhone isn't available on all carriers, especially the smaller carriers with cheaper plans. Add in the fact that the latest Android phones are usually no-pay on contract and you get this. I don't know very many people that have an Android that wouldn't prefer an iPhone if not for the $ aspect. I've used Androids extensively (girlfriends phone is Android) and I think it's an entirely inferior experience. Android is just so rough around the edges.

[The Faceless Master]

Didn't know it was about IRC specifically. It sounded like you were talking about the multitasking aspect.

wait, so i mentioned IRC specifically, but you didn't know i was talking about IRC specifically when you quoted me mentioning IRC specifically, even going as far as to mention that i could idle on IRC on WM6 and didn't want to go back in functionality? how... what... why the... smh!

Well iPhone isn't available on all carriers, especially the smaller carriers with cheaper plans. Add in the fact that the latest Android phones are usually no-pay on contract and you get this. I don't know very many people that have an Android that wouldn't prefer an iPhone if not for the $ aspect. I've used Androids extensively (girlfriends phone is Android) and I think it's an entirely inferior experience. Android is just so rough around the edges.

in what country?

[Hyuga]

Won't ever buy a Apple Phone / tablet again.
Android all the way! I love it!

[HalcyonTB12]

I have a RAZR running ics and I also have access to an iPhone 4.

I don't know what world people are living in when they think android is a mess. The functionality and design is far superior in my opinion.

/shrug

[Gustav]

wait, so i mentioned IRC specifically, but you didn't know i was talking about IRC specifically when you quoted me mentioning IRC specifically, even going as far as to mention that i could idle on IRC on WM6 and didn't want to go back in functionality? how... what... why the... smh! in what country?

You started your sentence by saying "Android has real multitasking...". If you can't figure out why someone would think that this is what was important to you then I'm sorry.

[Cipherr]

You started your sentence by saying "Android has real multitasking...". If you can't figure out why someone would think that this is what was important to you then I'm sorry.

Well, Android does have real multitasking, at the very core of the OS. No apps or certain scenarios needed. Just multitasking. Not multitasking if X and X..... just multitasking. But thats sort of irrelevant, 95% of his post focused on the IRC concept, so unless you read the first few words of the post and then slammed the reply button in a fit of haste, there's really no reason why you shouldn't have been able to grasp his point, especially after quoting it.

[Gustav]

Well, Android does have real multitasking, at the very core of the OS. No apps or certain scenarios needed. Just multitasking. Not multitasking if X and X..... just multitasking. But thats sort of irrelevant, 95% of his post focused on the IRC concept, so unless you read the first few words of the post and then slammed the reply button in a fit of haste, there's really no reason why you shouldn't have been able to grasp his point, especially after quoting it.

It's all good, man. No need to jump to his rescue. I thought the IRC bit was just an example of how multitasking works on an Android device.

[massoluk]

I want a phone that I can drag and drop MKV and other various files and play them without hassle. IOS wasn't it. The end of that for me.

[Gustav]

I want a phone that I can drag and drop MKV and other various files and play them without hassle. IOS wasn't it. The end of that for me.

What's this MKV people speak of? What kind of files? Where do people get those?

[Mango Positive]

I'm an Android guy when it comes to phones, but when I went tablet shopping, I had to go with the new iPad. It's worth the extra money for that screen alone.

[macuser1of5]

Won't ever buy a Apple Phone / tablet again. Android all the way! I love it!

You have my sympathy.

[PetriP-TNT]

What's this MKV people speak of? What kind of files? Where do people get those?

Anime, because it's apparently the only way to wrap video and audio in such high quality to demonstrate the true finesse of korean pen and ink flash professional craftmanship. Of course the files are ripped from already packed sources but MKV

[The Faceless Master]

You started your sentence by saying "Android has real multitasking...". If you can't figure out why someone would think that this is what was important to you then I'm sorry.

apology accepted because i can't figure out why someone would read that and ignore the rest of the sentence, especially when the next few words are "so i can" and the rest of the sentence is an explanation of exactly what i can do and then a quip about me being able to do what i just said on WM6. it's pretty baffling to me that anyone who can read and understand that sentence could come to some other conclusion.

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Anime, because it's apparently the only way to wrap video and audio in such high quality to demonstrate the true finesse of korean pen and ink flash professional craftmanship. Of course the files are ripped from already packed sources but MKV

MKV allows you to include soft-subs without requiring multiple files.

[Cipherr]

MKV allows you to include soft-subs without requiring multiple files.

I didn't realize that MKV was the turning point for this, but I did notice and appreciate it. Managing those separate sub files sucked.

[The Faceless Master]

Well, Android does have real multitasking, at the very core of the OS. No apps or certain scenarios needed. Just multitasking. Not multitasking if X and X..... just multitasking. But thats sort of irrelevant, 95% of his post focused on the IRC concept, so unless you read the first few words of the post and then slammed the reply button in a fit of haste, there's really no reason why you shouldn't have been able to grasp his point, especially after quoting it.

that's probably what happened.

[Mercury Fred]

I love the Android OS, but I'm not crazy about my phone options. I'm still using a Nexus One in part because so many of the newer phones are just too huge for my taste. What I really want is an iPhone 4s (or 5 I suppose) running Tmobile with Jelly Bean installed on it :P

[Gustav]

Anime, because it's apparently the only way to wrap video and audio in such high quality to demonstrate the true finesse of korean pen and ink flash professional craftmanship. Of course the files are ripped from already packed sources but MKV

So it's for ripped video?

[massoluk]

So it's for ripped video?

Don't know if it changes, but for a long time, if I want to put a video I ripped myself, you have to get the right formats with the resolutions exactly right or the Itune would just laugh at you.

In capable Android, I just drag and drop whatever the hell I want to play via normal USB transfer or SD card.

[Cipherr]

So it's for ripped video?

Its for any video. Its just a container like AVI and MP4. I started to notice it though just some time back. Looking through all of my HD video 720p and above, 100% of it is either MKV or MP4.

[skinnyrattler]

Fragmentation will never be that bad as long as the original version people get is decent. All the things of ICS and JB are not world changing compared to my honeycomb. I still have a phone with a camera, internet and other things. While that may seem horrible to you, my life still goes on. It's still just a phone, to me. Something for texting, videos, pictures. To the majority, they just want a phone at a decent price.

Besides, it came with free voice directions, which was a gamechanger and that is still on my phone.

[notsol337]

For what it's worth, I sell phones at a RadioShack. The only heavy iPhone users are on AT&T. Most of my Sprint/Verizon customers end up with Android phones. The OS is alot more customizable, and at least in my store's demographic of middle class average income suburbian office workers, they prefer Android. Also, that statement was poorly parsed.

[Bgamer90]

Not surprising considering how many Android phones release per year in comparison to only 1 iPhone per year.

[Souless_PJ]

I want a phone that I can drag and drop MKV and other various files and play them without hassle. IOS wasn't it. The end of that for me.

In ios you connect the phone. Start iTunes, click on Apps, scroll down to file sharing and Add the MKV files from the directory. It's not that hard. Or if you are on a wifi network you can have them stream automatically from a video app without copying at all.

The android alternative is connect the phone. Start Windows explorer. Find the files and then drag it to the phone. You're saving like 10 secs with the same result.

[The Faceless Master]

In ios you connect the phone. Start iTunes, click on Apps, scroll down to file sharing and Add the MKV files from the directory. It's not that hard. Or if you are on a wifi network you can have them stream automatically from a video app without copying at all. The android alternative is connect the phone. Start Windows explorer. Find the files and then drag it to the phone. You're saving like 10 secs with the same result.

depends on if the system has iTunes or not.

[Souless_PJ]

depends on if the system has iTunes or not.

Well I thought it was a pretty safe assumption that if you had an iOS device that you would have a copy of iTunes installed on your home PC. It's not like you're going to copy your ill gotten files from your work pc. The only way it would play out your way would be if you're at a friends house who also has android and you want to copy directly and not use a USB stick I guess.