[Neuromancer]

Id be very surprised if that kind of service was available in the game without having to go through the Elite app or having an Elite sub. Theres no way thats happening within the game imo.

Yeah you're probably right.

[Xux]

The game's laggy enough with theater mode turned on; there's no way I'm streaming if I can.

Also, sucks to see C4 still being lethal.

And...I hope pistols are good again after they nerfed the crap out of them for MW3. There seems to be plenty of ways to replace or even omit them so I hope they're decent here.

[Sub_Level]

And...I hope pistols are good again after they nerfed the crap out of them for MW3. .

They did? I remember playing TDM on Interchange/Interstate with the USP only and I got the highest score.

Then again I was playing on PS3, which I think seems to be the easiest system to do good on compared to the 360 and PC.

[Xux]

They did? I remember playing TDM on Interchange/Interstate with the USP only and I got the highest score. Then again I was playing on PS3, which I think seems to be the easiest system to do good on compared to the 360 and PC.

They're the weakest they've been since COD4 and MW2's were the strongest. It'd be nice to see them be more viable as a main weapon since they can easily be replaced.

[Mr. Enigma]

The game's laggy enough with theater mode turned on; there's no way I'm streaming if I can.

Has it ever been proven for a fact that theater mode causes lag? I've always heard this but never seen any concrete proof. Black Ops and MW3 feel the same to me whether or not it's on.

[ilnadmy]

For those of you who got Elite with MW3, will you consider it for BO2? I'm not getting BO2 personally but I thought Elite was handled rather well for MW3 and I'm enjoying the new maps they've released since release.

[Silly.Mikey]

For those of you who got Elite with MW3, will you consider it for BO2? I'm not getting BO2 personally but I thought Elite was handled rather well for MW3 and I'm enjoying the new maps they've released since release.

That depends, are Activision planning another 50% off all dlc sales midway through the year again?

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...s-on-sale.aspx

If so, then fuck Elite.

[AllBusinessJr]

For those of you who got Elite with MW3, will you consider it for BO2? I'm not getting BO2 personally but I thought Elite was handled rather well for MW3 and I'm enjoying the new maps they've released since release.

I found it to be worth it. It was very well supported, but as it was put by a blogpost on Joystiq, I don't think there is any guarantee they will be as generous in the future. The extra content over was more than intially promised and seemed more a product of Activision and IW having no real idea how they wanted to run the service at the start.

I know that Treyarch has already stated that they will be handling "drops" differently and going back to a traditional "map pack" format. This is also a step in the right direction as I found the community to be extremely fragmented by the way they "droppped" the MW3 content.

All of this should be taken with a grain of salt as I bought the Hardened Edition and instantly parted with the founder's card and field journal on eBay to cover the cost of Elite.

EDIT-
Wish they did more straight-up multiplayer maps. I'm not as big on the Spec Ops or Faceoff content, but it probably was best the way they did it...

[TacticalFox88]

Made a compilation of the critical details so far from the trailer and a few theories. BLACK OPS 2: Maximilian's Multiplayer Breakdown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjcPGgdSdTs

Oh wow. Most of that stuff I never even would've thought about. VERY nicely done

[Xux]

Has it ever been proven for a fact that theater mode causes lag? I've always heard this but never seen any concrete proof. Black Ops and MW3 feel the same to me whether or not it's on.

Nope. From Black Ops on the games felt sort laggier maybe but I never really tested it extensively since it's so ridiculously inconsistent; I just leave it off just in case. I don't doubt streaming will have a noticeable effect, though.

For those of you who got Elite with MW3, will you consider it for BO2? I'm not getting BO2 personally but I thought Elite was handled rather well for MW3 and I'm enjoying the new maps they've released since release.

Probably if it's as good a deal.

[Stallion Free]

For those of you who got Elite with MW3, will you consider it for BO2? I'm not getting BO2 personally but I thought Elite was handled rather well for MW3 and I'm enjoying the new maps they've released since release.

Only if my friends get it and its available on PC. Otherwise no since I never play alone.

[Brian Fellows]

For those of you who got Elite with MW3, will you consider it for BO2? I'm not getting BO2 personally but I thought Elite was handled rather well for MW3 and I'm enjoying the new maps they've released since release.

Doubt it. The map pack implementation was about a terrible as it could possibly be. Getting them early was a waste of time because there was never enough people in the playlists so it was impossible for me to even find a respectable connection. Plus they put Domination in with TDM and Kill Confirmed which meant a lot of backing out every time that shitty mode came up.

The clan system is absolutely worthless.

And the challenges were won by cheaters every time. 1100 kills in TDM in 3 hours?

Oh and there is the fact that we got screwed out of 8 multi-player maps because of that shitty face off mode.

[Bumblebeetuna]

Those little miniature dudes on the bottom 3 slots on each class, it seems like they are only there if the person has 2 perks from the same color on their class. Maybe it's the pro version of the perks? Maybe it means to use the pro version of perks, it costs 3 slots out of your 10 instead of just 2. Also the dude running with the pistol and 6 perks, neither of his kills result in progress towards his streak rewards. Maybe support rewards are back and require something other than kills? That would be nice.

I wonder if this game will still push for 60 frames per second. Graphics really look amazing.

[Gez]

Yeah, I mean Infinity Ward only created the series and turned it into a phenomenon.

What the heck happened with Modern Warfare 2 and 3? Infinity Ward is Dr. Frankenstein is far as i'm concern.

[njean777]

Has it ever been proven for a fact that theater mode causes lag? I've always heard this but never seen any concrete proof. Black Ops and MW3 feel the same to me whether or not it's on.

From the way it plays with it on and then turning it off, I have seen a huge improvement in lag on MW3 (black ops I never even knew it existed). When I turn it off on MW3 I tend to not get killed around corners as fast and actually have time to react if they are there, with it on I get instakilled. From now on in every COD I will turn it off as it is apparent it causes lag (for my connection at least).

[njean777]

For those of you who got Elite with MW3, will you consider it for BO2? I'm not getting BO2 personally but I thought Elite was handled rather well for MW3 and I'm enjoying the new maps they've released since release.

Most likely not, I will just pick up the map packs when they drop on ps3. I dont like getting things piecemeal.

*sorry for double

[Stantron]

Those little miniature dudes on the bottom 3 slots on each class, it seems like they are only there if the person has 2 perks from the same color on their class. Maybe it's the pro version of the perks? Maybe it means to use the pro version of perks, it costs 3 slots out of your 10 instead of just 2. Also the dude running with the pistol and 6 perks, neither of his kills result in progress towards his streak rewards. Maybe support rewards are back and require something other than kills? That would be nice. I wonder if this game will still push for 60 frames per second. Graphics really look amazing.

You might be on to something with the bottom slots. But the load out at the riot shields and the sniper class does not follow that rule. So maybe not quite as you say. Not sure if anyone has cracked what those do yet.


Also, turning off theater mode in MW3 makes absolutely no difference what so ever. Still laggy as shit.

[Stallion Free]

I wonder if this game will still push for 60 frames per second. Graphics really look amazing.

It is going to push for 60 fps.

[Radec]

Anyone called the |OT| yet ?

[Brian Fellows]

Can't wait until Wednesday. I really need to go buy a new PS3.

[-Pyromaniac-]

MP blowout is almost finally hear. Excited to hear about the zombie shit and see more maps and whatnot and learn more about the systemz.

[aristotle]

Anyone called the |OT| yet ?

Not as far as I know. +1 for Radec OT

[Neuromancer]

MP blowout is almost finally hear. Excited to hear about the zombie shit and see more maps and whatnot and learn more about the systemz.

And sweet sweet combat training.

[Nabs]

Anyone called the |OT| yet ?

I'd like to offer a title: Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 |OT| Black to the Future.

[Brian Fellows]

And sweet sweet combat training.

Yeah I miss playing with my brother. He doesn't play regular multiplayer because his hands don't work so well. But he did love to play combat training.

[Xux]

You might be on to something with the bottom slots. But the load out at the riot shields and the sniper class does not follow that rule. So maybe not quite as you say. Not sure if anyone has cracked what those do yet.

It seems to be that certain combos cost an extra slot like two primary weapons, two lethal grenades, more than three attachments, and two perks in one tier. Beyond challenges and maybe visual stuff I doubt there's any benefit to them.

[wiggleb0t]

For those mentioning 'theater lag' is this only present on consoles?
Also, the clips demonstrated in the op trailer, is that true theater mode or bullshots? It looks niiiice especially considering it's the console version. Really hoping Treyarch deliver on the pc end!


Itching for some good old simple twitch vibe shooting and haven't played MP cod since black ops. Think I'm sold assuming no lack of dedicated server stunts or anything proper stupid!

[legacyzero]

So Activision isn't holding a "Call of Duty XP" event for this one??

Oh, and what's happening on Wed?

[Xux]

So Activision isn't holding a "Call of Duty XP" event for this one??

Nope.

Oh, and what's happening on Wed?

A revealing of the game's multiplayer at Gamescom.

[legacyzero]

Oh awesome.

Mmmmmm Gamescom

[Nabs]

For those mentioning 'theater lag' is this only present on consoles? Also, the clips demonstrated in the op trailer, is that true theater mode or bullshots? It looks niiiice especially considering it's the console version. Really hoping Treyarch deliver on the pc end! Itching for some good old simple twitch vibe shooting and haven't played MP cod since black ops. Think I'm sold assuming no lack of dedicated server stunts or anything proper stupid!

There's no theater lag on PC since the Treyarch bot handles all the recording.

[xValentine]

Damn

[pramath]

So will we get Black Ops 2 on the Wii U and will it be the best looking on consoles like Assassins Creed 3 is said to be?

It appears it's probably coming. I wonder if the online will be the same as 360 and PS3 like Assassins Creed 3 is?

http://wegotthiscovered.com/news/bla...-2-headed-wii/



Among preorder tags for the game at one store were slips specifically labeled with the Wii U logo. While nothing official has been announced yet by Activision regarding this discovery, the Best Buy employee who made the cards has let info slip that the barcodes on the slips do definitely go towards the pre-purchase of a Wii U version, and that SKUs for the game do exist in the store system.

[TOM f'N CRUISE]

count me in

[Neverender]

The Australian Game Informer apparently has a 'world exclusive' reveal regarding Black Ops 2 that will be shown tomorrow.

[Stantron]

It seems to be that certain combos cost an extra slot like two primary weapons, two lethal grenades, more than three attachments, and two perks in one tier. Beyond challenges and maybe visual stuff I doubt there's any benefit to them.

You're right. Ah that makes sense. It seems to be a good way to balance the distribution of points. Good stuff.

[NinjaBoiX]

I was bored, CoD needs to break for a few years and come back with new ideas...

I'm not saying your wrong, but it's a cashcow. Any company would be stupid to kill a money machine like this. Acti don't give a shit if it's out of ideas, as long as the money rolls in.

[excaliburps]

The Australian Game Informer apparently has a 'world exclusive' reveal regarding Black Ops 2 that will be shown tomorrow.

Yep and odds are, it's going to either be an announcement regarding the Wii U version, or that the game will allow live-streaming for multiplayer games.

Which one would GAF prefer?

[Tomcat]

Yep and odds are, it's going to either be an announcement regarding the Wii U version, or that the game will allow live-streaming for multiplayer games. Which one would GAF prefer?

i dont think right now activision really cares for the wii u
if i have to bet between the two it would be the live streaming

[Trevelyan9999]

It's too bad that the dogs are coming back yet again (it's not confirmed but I saw the MP video breakdown discover it). Are there any fans of that kill streak here? I always thought it was pretty cheap.

Getting killed from one dog bite but not from 1 bullet is questionable at best.


I just found a perfect and hilarious example of this happening in WAW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxPpH-u-spo&t=6m46s

[Smashkirby]

Getting killed from one dog bite but not from 1 bullet is questionable at best.

I'm not sure but I think it was changed Black Ops to two hits. Even then it was about 12 gun kills which made it a real rarity compared to the chopper gunner.

Of course correct me if I'm wrong on this.

I'm pretty sure I got more Attack dogs from care packages than actually earning them.

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Uhh, it was two bites to kill in W@W, one bite in Blops.

Killing a dog also gave your team +3 points in W@W, which made endgames scores kinda bizarre sometimes.

[Trevelyan9999]

Uhh, it was two bites to kill in W@W, one bite in Blops. Killing a dog also gave your team +3 points in W@W, which made endgames scores kinda bizarre sometimes.

They should have a "no killstreaks" mode for those who just want gun on gun deathmatch without all the camping/sniping just to get killstreaks like the Attack Dogs. I'm not sure how much help Black Ops II will be with that X-Ray Sniper rifle.......but if they are going to put in a Multi-Team Deathmatch mode in the game, why couldn't they have a no killstreaks mode too?

[Mr. Enigma]

They should have a "no killstreaks" mode for those who just want gun on gun deathmatch without all the camping/sniping just to get killstreaks like the Attack Dogs.

Black Ops had this playlist at launch and the population rarely ever went over 1,000.

[legacyzero]

I just found a perfect and hilarious example of this happening in WAW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxPpH-u-spo&t=6m46s

"I'm Michael Vick, MOTHERFUCKER."

:lol

[Sean]

New article(s) just went up on Polygon with lots of details.

http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/...s-scorestreaks
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/...ng-league-play

[Xux]

Ghost only works when moving, huh?

And is that an F2000 in that screenshot? Used the fucking shit out of that gun in MW2.

A token system that let's you pick what you wanna unlock? This is sounding amazing.

[Mr. Enigma]

In Black Ops 2, Ghost's benefits only apply while players are moving, a design change that hopes to prevent the perk from being exploited by campers.

El Presador works for Treyarch now confirmed.

[rangersfan414]

EDIT: We have a new black ops 2 thread. All the info is posted there now.

[-TK-]

It's too bad that the dogs are coming back yet again (it's not confirmed but I saw the MP video breakdown discover it). Are there any fans of that kill streak here? I always thought it was pretty cheap. Getting killed from one dog bite but not from 1 bullet is questionable at best.

What? The attack dogs were one of the worst killstreaks in Black Ops. It was so easy to kill those dogs when you hear they are coming. Totally useless unless the opponents are really bad.