[Lime]

Yeah i guess when you put it that way, but Nolan is kinda an exception. He has been excellent these past years with Batman movies and Inception. There is a lot of movie trilogies story with the same quality as Mass Effect or even worse. :P

Whether or not Nolan's accomplishment(s) is to be considered an exception in comparison to other narrative trilogies does not influence the notion that his final treatment of his Batman oeuvre stands in stark contrast to how Bioware have ended up treating their own body of work. In my opinion, of course :)

[nel e nel]

I thought the extended endings were meh. I guess I was looking for more specifics about how my squadmates lives turned out or being briefly reunited with my LI in the Destroy w/high EMS ending. I was also hoping for some clarification as to why StarChild didn't just open the relay from Dark Space in ME1 when the Keepers ignored Soverign's signal.

Yeah, I was a bit underwhelmed when I replayed my primary Shep from the Long Walk save. I just felt that I had come to the same conclusions that they clarified on my own, so it didn't really add anything to my experience.

However, just finished a fresh trilogy run on Friday, and the EC actually adds bits of dialogue throughout the game that really brings more focus to alot of the foreshadowing, especially TIM experiments with control (although I feel like if you didn't see that coming by the time you finished Sanctuary, you weren't paying attention), and illustrating that the Reapers really are just tools following a fairly simple programming directive.

[Howdy]

However, just finished a fresh trilogy run on Friday, and the EC actually adds bits of dialogue throughout the game that really brings more focus to alot of the foreshadowing, especially TIM experiments with control (although I feel like if you didn't see that coming by the time you finished Sanctuary, you weren't paying attention), and illustrating that the Reapers really are just tools following a fairly simple programming directive.

Started a new FemShep character in ME1 and am running through the trilogy again. I've been paying close attention to try and pick up on the small details I've missed/forgotten over time. It's cool how different your perception is when you know the end to the trilogy. I also forgot how tedious planet exploration in the Mako is...

Will probably just choose Destroy ending when I get there again, though. I just can't see myself ever picking Control because TIM pushed so hard for it. Synthesis is what Saren was after, so that one isn't really an option for me either. I suppose I could always shoot the Starchild.

[Genesis Knight]

I feel like Control is the obvious "Best Ending", though. Shepard was born to be sacrificed anyway, and that's the only ending that preserves the galaxy's status quo. With Destroy you lose EDI and the Geth, but with Control you keep both and also reconstruct the Citadel and Mass Effect Relays very quickly.

[Bisnic]

I feel like Control is the obvious "Best Ending", though. Shepard was born to be sacrificed anyway, and that's the only ending that preserves the galaxy's status quo. With Destroy you lose EDI and the Geth, but with Control you keep both and also reconstruct the Citadel and Mass Effect Relays very quickly.

It depends on your trilogy playthrough though. In my last trilogy run, my Shepard immediately sold Legion in ME2(i know, spit on me if you want), so she never learned much from the Geth from their side. She always saw them as evil AIs. By the end of the Rannoch mission, that Geth VI lied to me twice and gave my Shepard no reason to choose them over the Quarians. At the end, it grabbed Shepard's throat saying they should have never trusted organics, Tali attacked it from behind to save me and i shot it in the face 3 times with Renegade buttons. I almost felt bad when i did that since he basically looks like Legion. Now i wonder what would have happened if i shot only once or twice.

When i had to choose the final decision, Destroy felt like the right choice if EDI was the only sacrifice. Reapers killed billions of people, no way i was going to let them live, even if they would have help us. It was my goal since ME1!

[Howdy]

Reapers killed billions of people, no way i was going to let them live, even if they would have help us. It was my goal since ME1!

This.

My paragon Shepard opposes TIM for the entire game, tells him how wrong he is and how difficult it is to control the Reapers, how control is a power we don't understand and shouldn't be able to use, etc. It seems like a contradiction for Shep to then ignore what he just finished saying and choose Control.

[Gazzawa]

This. My paragon Shepard opposes TIM for the entire game, tells him how wrong he is and how difficult it is to control the Reapers, how control is a power we don't understand and shouldn't be able to use, etc. It seems like a contradiction for Shep to then ignore what he just finished saying and choose Control.

But what about that stupid kid.
Someone has to put a bullet in his bitch ass.
i was the first human to do so.

[Gui_PT]

Wrong thread

[Aspiring]

Sorry wrong thread.

[tzare]

I feel like Control is the obvious "Best Ending", though. Shepard was born to be sacrificed anyway, and that's the only ending that preserves the galaxy's status quo. With Destroy you lose EDI and the Geth, but with Control you keep both and also reconstruct the Citadel and Mass Effect Relays very quickly.

Yep i felt like the same. I did not have the green option however , maybe because i did not play any multiplayer to rise Galaxy at War status?, maybe i would've choosen that one instead as it granted peace by merging organics an synthetics instead of trying to control the reapers, plus SHepard would also sacrifice himself anyway. It is like control but 'better' imo


However i feel that the kid/the catalyser thing are kind of a rushed ending and nonsense. if the kid is 'the reapers ai/conscience' why not offer those options from start instead of destroying everything and being so arrogant ? (yes he says organics where not ready, how could he know if shepard was the first to reach him, or only a few had known the way to destroy the reapers?, how how did shepard become ready?
PLus as expected yet disappointing to , reapers origen wasn't fully explained.
I wonder what direction will ME series take from now. There's a huge universe to explore but feels like uninteresting to go for minor conflics after the reaper thing. Maybe a prequel about the reapers creators could be good enough?

[Bisnic]

Yep i felt like the same. I did not have the green option however , maybe because i did not play any multiplayer to rise Galaxy at War status?, maybe i would've choosen that one instead as it granted peace by merging organics an synthetics instead of trying to control the reapers, plus SHepard would also sacrifice himself anyway. It is like control but 'better' imo

The "green" option is always available, its the giant beam in front of you after you're done talking with the kid.

[Gazzawa]

Did anyone notice the totz awky momo on the shuttle where u get rescued by anderson.
He says to you "I was born in London"
Shephard: "Really"
akward silence

im pretty sure he mentioned it to you before when u talk on the normandy.
WTF was up with this?
LoL bioware i guess...

[Aspiring]

So I just finished my first trilogy play through and wow what a game!

The first time I finished it I chose the ending where synthetics died. But was left unhappy with too many questions. I just re did it and chose the ending with the beam where Shepard sacrificed himself and made everyone half synthetic and half organic and I actually felt good. I actually didn't mind this ending at all. I had a feeling that Shepard would die as there were hints throughout, but he died a hero sacrificing himself to save an entire galaxy, and gave new life to synthetics like EDI.

Anyway it wasn't what I wanted, I wanted him to get there and just see a mad scene where the reapers get all blown to hell and maybe a little epilogue where you see how your surviving friends are doing.

But I thought the synthetic ending was at least closure with Shepard being the hero. And EDI's narrative shows that do I thought it was the right ending.

[Gui_PT]

But I thought the synthetic ending was at least closure with Shepard being the hero. And EDI's narrative shows that do I thought it was the right ending.

Beware, you're not allowed to say anything nice about Synthesis ending in this thread

[Typographenia]

Beware, you're not allowed to say anything nice about Synthesis ending in this thread

It's my favorite ending because it makes me think of End of Evangelion music!

[Aspiring]

Beware, you're not allowed to say anything nice about Synthesis ending in this thread

Haha sorry. Like I said it wasn't what I wanted as I wanted a happy ending but it offered closure that the others did not. Seeing shep take a breath was like, there just in case.

But at least I was offered closure. The world was rebuilt. Everything I fought for, galactic peace and love was accomplished. It seemed to give me what I needed. And while Shepard was dead at least I know that what I was fighting for was accomplished and it gave some closure.

[heliosRAzi]

Beware, you're not allowed to say anything nice about Synthesis ending in this thread

Because it's stupid and a company with "bio" in its name should fucking know how biology works

[Gui_PT]

Because it's stupid and a company with "bio" in its name should fucking know how biology works

See?

Even if you like it, you have to say it sucks. Stay safe!

[Bisnic]

Because it's stupid and a company with "bio" in its name should fucking know how biology works

We know it doesn't make sense, but in a universe with mass relays, reapers, protheans visions, a human coming back to life after falling from space, multiple alien races living together... i dunno... there was already a lot of shit that didnt make sense. But hey... that's science-fiction for you.

And really now, you think having the word "bio" in their name means shit? They're a video game developper, not some scientific company. :lol

[Mister_Bubbles]

... and it's run by two doctors! What are they playing at?!

:P

[Hellraizer]

Eh it's just a gimmicky name, like Electornic "Arts".

[tzare]

The "green" option is always available, its the giant beam in front of you after you're done talking with the kid.

oh, is it? i don't remember the kid telling me about that option. Maybe i was not paying atention :/


As for the green ending, yeah, it feels weird, almost Kojima madness, changing dna for all living and 'robots' with a blast....

Btw, is it possible to do all missions in tutchanka? on my first run the bomb exploded before i could do that mission. Is also that the 'point' where you cannot do sidemissions anymore?

[Hellraizer]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485131

EA has confirmed that Mass Effect 3 will be a launch title on Wii U. The game will feature new control schemes that utilize the GamePad, bonus DLC such as Extended Cut, and an interactive backstory covering the experience of the first two games. Players can make decisions during key points and bring that narrative into Mass Effect 3. Take a look at the first shots from the Wii U game, captured from EA Summer Showcase 2012 live-stream.

Bet ya a 1000 spacebucks this will get released as dlc for ps3/360 instead of being there from the start.

Just like the ME2 interactive story got for the 360.

[Crewnh]

We know it doesn't make sense, but in a universe with mass relays, reapers, protheans visions, a human coming back to life after falling from space, multiple alien races living together... i dunno... there was already a lot of shit that didnt make sense. But hey... that's science-fiction for you. And really now, you think having the word "bio" in their name means shit? They're a video game developper, not some scientific company. :lol

Most of those are things that are introduced from the beginning and the first game. Nothing about space magic makes any sense. How does dark energy make you able to disperse your thoughts into the reapers controlling them, able to target only AIs and also able to turn organics into technoganic beings. You can't just introduce something like this at the end and expect it to be believable.

Shepard surviving the Normandy destruction was also freaking stupid in ME2.

[rozay]

Now this could be related to the Leviathian DLC, but what you want to pay attention to are the first 3 letters in front of the word Hub in the highlighted entry.

[DTKT]

Just a sec. Let me get my tinfoil hat.

I know I should be excited for good ME3 DLC. I just can't bring myself to care enough about anything I'll do with Shepard. :|

Everything is hollow now...

ermaged

Synthesis

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/to...dex/13557262/1

[rozay]

Just a sec. Let me get my tinfoil hat. I know I should be excited for good ME3 DLC. I just can't bring myself to care enough about anything I'll do with Shepard. :| Everything is hollow now... ermaged Synthesis http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/to...dex/13557262/1

This makes my head hurt.

[hateradio]

So this is some retcon-level BS.

You must choose it for all of us? Nothx.

[EatChildren]

lolwut

[randomrosso]

For some reason I just can't bring myself to go through this game again. After one play through of ME3 I'm all burnt out. I still haven't bothered with the EC.

[EatChildren]

There's some weird circular logic going on with that Leviathan spoiler.

If the Catalyst explains that synthesis with an unwilling species was attempted before, and failed, and produced the Leviathan (assumed to be from a species dubbed Leviathans), how did the Leviathans create the Catalyst? If they did indeed create the Catalyst, and the Catalyst turned on the Leviathans to create other Reapers/Harbinger, then who tried synthesis with the Leviathans in the first place? Wut?

BioWare sure is doing their best to, err, do whatever it is they're doing with the ending.

[Gazzawa]

There's some weird circular logic going on with that Leviathan spoiler. BioWare sure is doing their best to, err, do whatever it is they're doing with the ending.

The Wii U port will explain everything. don't deny me this dream

[GSR]

It's the gift that keeps on giving (for just 800 MSP).

[Clockblockers]

Well eventually they have to retcon the ending so they can push out the Mass Effect MMO

For 1200 MSP; Believe

[EatChildren]

I'm drunk. I ordered the comics.

I'm so sorry.

[Rapstah]

Oh wow, am I reading that right in that they changed the "who created you" option in the ending? I totally predicted that a week ago. :lol

EDIT: And by the way: I am absolutely against them changing the ending little by little, DLC pack for DLC pack, like this. I had nothing against a concentrated attempt to fix it, but trying to retcon your packs in is just going to screw up the little internal logic there was.

[rozay]

My friend is showing me the firefight guns on the PC and apparently his shepard's combat armor is him in underwear. I'm reminded of the secret costumes you can unlock in Neo Contra if anyone here played that.

It's kind of sad that his nipples are a higher resolution than the N7 logo on femshep's armor.

[hateradio]

I'm drunk. I ordered the comics. I'm so sorry.

EatChildren, I think it's time you put the alcohol away.

[Blue Ninja]

I'm drunk. I ordered the comics. I'm so sorry.

There is no redemption from this.

[Rufus]

Something something, artistic integrity.

[fabricated backlash]

I'm drunk. I ordered the comics. I'm so sorry.

Alcohol is one hell of a drug.

[Bisnic]

I'm drunk. I ordered the comics. I'm so sorry.

I thought you already had them all?

[rozay]

I thought you already had them all?

there was a new set, Homeworlds, the past 4 months

[HP_Wuvcraft]

I'm drunk. I ordered the comics. I'm so sorry.

You're not drunk. You're not sorry.

[Zeitgeister]

Just a sec. Let me get my tinfoil hat. I know I should be excited for good ME3 DLC. I just can't bring myself to care enough about anything I'll do with Shepard. :| Everything is hollow now... ermaged Synthesis http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/to...dex/13557262/1

it just keeps on giving.

I'm sure one future DLC will have you reskin your heavy melee as a sharpened toothbrush, for obvious reasons. Actually, it already kind of looks like one.

And Eatchildren: DON'T DO IT, MAN! LIFE IS WORTH LIVING!
(well, kinda)

[Jake Tower]

Just a sec. Let me get my tinfoil hat. I know I should be excited for good ME3 DLC. I just can't bring myself to care enough about anything I'll do with Shepard. :| Everything is hollow now... ermaged Synthesis http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/to...dex/13557262/1

Did anyone ask Joker's hat if it is willing? Who asked the leaves?

WE NEED TO KNOW!

[Zeitgeister]

Did anyone ask Joker's hat if it is willing? Who asked the leaves? WE NEED TO KNOW!

Maass Eefffect foor: the revoolting of theh muutant leafes. Jah.

[Sotha Sil]

I'm drunk. I ordered the comics. I'm so sorry.

I knew it :(

Oh, and lol at Bioware. Can't wait for the Leviathan videos.

[Hellraizer]

Leviathan Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYjenu-f_3g

[Trigger]

Bless Bioware for trying.