[cubanb]

I think no matter where you fall politically, if gore won in 2000, things would be much different. For better or worse depending on your leaning.

What about Kerry ? If he would have won, would anything be different? I am guessing not. Based on what we hoped Obama would do and what he did, Kerry would have been a huge disappointment . Luckily, John Edwards didn't make it that year.

I am really not sure who, if anyone, John Kerry could beat in a presidential race besides Dukakis and that would be primaries .

[cheststrongwell]

We wouldn't have gotten the Bush shoe dodge.

[Izick]

Honestly, I'm guessing not. I wonder if Obama would be running in 2012 though, and how he'd stack up against the competition. I think a lot of people may just vote the opposite party of the prior president just because of how shitty things got. I know that sounds silly, but I'm pretty sure there are a few people who vote with only that in mind.

[homerule]

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[sangreal]

Roberts and Alito wouldn't be justices, for starters

[jchap]

Heinz ketchup would be considered a vegetable in school lunches instead of pizza

[Gravijah]

Kerry would have been prez. that's one thing different.

[FairyD]

Spider-man 3 would have been a good movie.

[sangreal]

Heinz ketchup would be considered a vegetable in school lunches instead of pizza

Ketchup was already considered a vegetable in school lunches though

[QuiteWhittle]

Not much would've been different. Now IF Gore had won and served two terms....

[PhoenixPause]

Roberts and Alito wouldn't be justices, for starters

That's about it imo. We would have still been in Iraq, but perhaps have left around 2008-2010. I don't think we would have avoided the financial crash

[Forever]

Might not have gotten a black president.

[quaere]

Republicans and their media outlets and supporting conservative economists would be lining up to say the economic crash was caused by the distorting effects of two years of government over-regulation on the otherwise perfectly efficient free markets. Over 50% of the country would believe it.

[Clevinger]

A half decent chance that we wouldn't have Citizens United/unlimited money in elections.

A lot of stuff would've been the same or similar, but CU is such an incredibly big deal.

[Jimothy]

The economic collapse probably still would have happened, and would have been blamed on the Democrats. Republicans would win in 2008, and would likely go down the path of austerity rather than stimulus, thus further wrecking the economy.

...imo

[Mgoblue201]

There is a decent chance that John Kerry presides over the financial crisis (although whether it is of the same intensity, or whether it even happens on his watch, is hard to say). If so, then the Republicans probably win in 2008, but I don't know if that would mean McCain in the White House or someone else.

[Phoenix]

Obama wouldn't be president today.

[pigeon]

I have no idea what Kerry would've done if elected (that's how much of an impression he made on me), but W's second term not happening would have a lot of knock-on effects, including the Republican brand not tanking so intensely. I suspect we'd have had entirely different candidates in '08 and '12 -- and I think it's quite possible that the Democrats wouldn't have had the confidence to put up a black man or woman if the GOP's approval ratings weren't quite so terrible...which suggests that the Southern Strategy-esque approach of mobilizing latent racism against Obama wouldn't have happened, and the Republican party would still appear relatively sane.

I think I'm happier this way!

We'd definitely be seeing more Bush cronies running for President if he'd lost in '04.

[metalslimer]

Like people are saying Republicans probably would have won in 2008 as the economic crisis was building up and Kerry certainly wasn't going to be able to save it from happening. The healthcare law wouldn't have passed, DADT would still be in place, the stimulus would have all been tax cuts and budget cuts for states. Looking back thank god Kerry lost as bush didn't do anything too damaging in his 2nd term besides I guess medicare part d and the current justice seats would have probably be different although I guess Roberts did save the healthcare law.

[alphaNoid]

Obama wouldn't be president today.

I think this is possible, very possible.

[GraveHorizon]

And Obama definitely could have gotten elected if Kerry did as bad a job as Bush.

[sangreal]

I think this is possible, very possible.

Well, it's a certainty because Kerry would have run for reelection unopposed no matter how shitty he did. When is the last time a President just quit after one term?

[PastorOfMuppets]

Maybe we pull out of Iraq earlier - the war had just started in 2004 so American wasn't as committed as they were in 2008.

Other than that, too many variables for me to judge. Maybe someone with more political expertise can chime in.

[Mgoblue201]

Due to political realities, a Kerry administration probably stays in Iraq. I don't think anyone wanted the country to descend into civil war. However, I don't know if the military strategy would have been different. If the Bush administration deserves credit for anything here, it's for salvaging a terrible situation that they had created.

[Jackpot]

Katrina aftermath. No stupid Bush frat friend in charge of FEMA.

[TacticalFox88]

Funny how Bush winning in 04 was a saving grace in hindsight.

[BertramCooper]

It would have been a one-term presidency mired in scandal, thanks entirely to John Edwards.

[Instigator]

Vice president Edwards would have found a way to impregnate another woman while his wife was dying of cancer. The fallout would have been more damaging.

[D.Lo]

You're talking about alternate history, not revisionist history (which is deliberately slanted re-interpretation of actual events that happened).

The world wouldn't have hated America as much, that's for sure. We all thought you lot were retarded for voting a that illegal invasion moron Bush in for the 2nd 1st time. Yes I can confidently speak for the whole world here ;).

I think it would have been better, Obama is a good prez, but the DINOs have ruined everything for him and as a result he's gotten the backlash from the racist/psycotic Reps without even being able to get heaps done either.

[BertramCooper]

You're talking about alternate history, not revisionist history (which is deliberately slanted re-interpretation of actual events that happened). The world wouldn't have hated America as much, that's for sure. We all thought you lot were retarded for voting a that illegal invasion moron Bush in for the 2nd 1st time. Yes I can confidently speak for the whole world here ;). I think it would have been better, Obama is a good prez, but the DINOs have ruined everything for him and as a result he's gotten the backlash from the racist/psycotic Reps without even being able to get heaps done either.

But seriously, Edwards would have ruined everything. We would have had another foolish Republican crusade for honor and decency, which might have gotten someone truly nutty elected in '08.

Edwards was a time bomb.

[alstein]

Might not have gotten a black president.

We might have gotten Colin Powell as president instead. The bubble bursts in 2007 no matter what , and I can't see Kerry and the Dems stopping it.

I doubt heavily if Gore won in 2000 that he would have gotten a 2nd term- he never impressed me

Odds are very high Kerry wins if 9/11 doesn't happen.

We would have had a Republican landslide in 2008, and the left-wing equivalent of the Tea Party- Kucinich could have ended up running for President this year.
The current Tea Party would be butterflied out, the Republicans would be closer to Bob Dole than Paul Ryan.

[Cheebo]

He'd have a far better chance of having someone running FEMA and avoid the entire post-Katrina aftermath.

[thefro]

We might have gotten Colin Powell as president instead. Odds are we would have had a Republican landslide in 2008, and the left-wing equivalent of the Tea Party- Kucinich could have ended up running for President this year.

It would have been Obama (the 2004 DNC speech still happens, remember) v.s. Clinton *this* year in the Democratic primary, probably running against President McCain who would have us at war with Iran. Economy would be really bad right now.

[Mondriaan]

We would have had a Republican landslide in 2008, and the left-wing equivalent of the Tea Party- Kucinich could have ended up running for President this year. The current Tea Party would be butterflied out, the Republicans would be closer to Bob Dole than Paul Ryan.

The Tea Party isn't some grass roots movement, at least definitely not at its inception. I highly doubt that there will be a true left-wing equivalent for that reason- someone with deep pockets has to benefit.

We should have seen such a movement start in 2005-2006, if it was going to happen.