[Aaron Strife]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...ention/1244999

President Barack Obama will be at the Republican National Convention in Tampa later this month — on local TV, that is. Obama's team plunked down more than $181,000 in ad time on Tampa-area network affiliates for the last week of August to ensure that the president isn't completely out of the spotlight when Mitt Romney is crowned as the GOP standard-bearer. Obama for America will air more than 160 spots during shows such as Dr. Phil, Undercover Boss and Bachelor Pad, including $73,720 for 49 spots on the Tampa CBS affiliate (WTSP-Ch. 10), $54,500 for 75 spots on the ABC affiliate (WFTS-Ch. 28) and $53,750 for 42 spots on the NBC affiliate (WFLA-Ch. 8), according to public disclosures posted this week to the website of the Federal Communications Commission.

Obama will make sure Florida goes blue, and that the Ryan plan is raked across the coals.

The funny thing is Aug 11 was my due date, the same day Romney announced Ryan as VP. In an alternate universe this could have been my 21st birthday present from the Republican Party.

[Oblivion]

Another reason why Ryan's a dick:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08...ground-videos/

[ErasureAcer]

Another reason why Ryan's a dick: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08...ground-videos/

Yeah, saw this earlier on DU. "Forgot to take his meds." Classy.

[ClassyPenguin]

Yeah, that is scary. I just listened to the first couple minutes and it is an admission of blind-faith ideology. Fuck that shit! COLLECT DATA AND SEE WHAT WORKS BEST. SCIENCE! You don't fucking read books of fiction and build policy on it. Science-fiction is great fun but it is fucking fiction. Real scientists go out and measure things, test things, form hypothesis's, test them, develop theories backed by data. They don't fucking use science-fiction books as the basis of science. These dumb fuckers are using works of fiction as guidebooks for policy. NO! Look, if you are inspired by some fictional book . . . fine. But then go out and test the ideas in the real world. Find examples where different things have been tried and see how they worked. And base you policy on what was actually PROVEN to have worked. George HW Bush said it best . . . "VooDoo economics". It is literally RELIGION economics because it is not based on factual study but instead based on works of fiction and blind-faith belief. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhh Science, mother-fuckers, science!

Anti-intellectualism is a very strong force at play. Somehow beliefs are better than facts. Anti-vaccine movements, people believing that Obama is a Muslim and that Islam is working to bring down the American government, all are based on anti-intellectualism.

As long as I say it's my belief, you can't prove it wrong even if the evidence clearly shows that I am. I believe it to be true so it is.

[SSGMUN10000]

Honestly, it's probably not worth the effort. I just tune it out. Life's too short to argue with friends and family about politics.

You are right. I typically do tune it out. Sometimes though it really does get to me. I am in Texas by the way so I know a live in Republican land.

[XMonkey]

I heard somewhere that his advisers were constantly begging him to pick Portman, but Romney became set on Ryan.

If that's true then they should all be jumping off their sinking ship.

[ErasureAcer]

If that's true then they should all be jumping off their sinking ship.

Mr President, a war with Iran is not a good idea.
"Call McCain, tell him there's a new Maverick in town."
End of the world.

[Plinko]

Speaking of insanity, I was just viewing some threads from popular GOP message boards and the new feeling about Romney's taxes (and the response to the idea that he'd have paid under 1% in taxes under Ryan's plan) appears to be this:

"He's paid more in taxes than I ever will, so I'm fine with that."

It is amazing to me how the GOP has completely tricked the poor and middle-class into thinking that's ok.

[TacticalFox88]

Speaking of insanity, I was just viewing some threads from popular GOP message boards and the new feeling about Romney's taxes (and the response to the idea that he'd have paid under 1% in taxes under Ryan's plan) appears to be this: "He's paid more in taxes than I ever will, so I'm fine with that." It is amazing to me how the GOP has completely tricked the poor and middle-class into thinking that's ok.

.....fucking really?

Woooooow.

[ErasureAcer]

Mazie Hirono the next US Senator from Hawaii.

[Dax01]

Mazie Hirono the next US Senator from Hawaii.

What?

[ErasureAcer]

What?

She won the primary over Ed Case.

[Opiate]

What?

Mazie Hirono won the democratic primary for the senate seat of Hawaii, which is up for grabs due to a retiring senator.

However, Erasure is wrong. The republicans have a chance in this one, and most places I've looked (include Nate Silver) have it as a toss up. This is plausibly a lost Democratic seat.

[ErasureAcer]

She lost to Lingle before but the polling I saw a few weeks back had her up double digits with Case in a dead heat with Lingle.

Erasure is right. Opiate is wrong. Plus it's Hawaii dude.

[Opiate]

She lost to Lingle before but the polling I saw a few weeks back had her up double digits with Case in a dead heat with Lingle. Erasure is right. Opiate is wrong. Plus it's Hawaii dude.

Yep, it appears you are correct. Thank you.

[Dax01]

She won the primary over Ed Case.

Oh, I knew what you were talking about, but I was looking for a source about it. Sorry. I wasn't being clear.

However, Erasure is wrong. The republicans have a chance in this one, and most places I've looked (include Nate Silver) have it as a toss up. This is plausibly a lost Democratic seat.

Nate Silver had a summary about it not too long ago.

The current FiveThirtyEight forecast gives Mr. Romney a 0 percent chance of winning Hawaii. Even if Mr. Obama were from another state, he would still be a prohibitive favorite. But as a native son, Mr. Obama will likely win around 70 percent of the vote again. Perhaps only the District of Columbia is more assured of voting for him. Mr. Obama’s coattails will likely hurt Ms. Lingle, unless she can persuade a significant number of voters to split their ballots. FiveThirtyEight’s official Senate projections are coming soon, but at the end of 2011 we published “Senate Odds Guesstimates,” and guesstimated Ms. Lingle’s electoral chances at 25 percent. That seemed about right to both Mr. Milner and Mr. Winer. Although a few partisan polls have shown a close race, or even Ms. Lingle leading, the last nonpartisan poll of the contest, conducted in mid-July by Ward Research for The Honolulu Star-Advertiser and Hawaii News Now, found the two top Democrats, Ms. Hirono (the congresswoman) and Mr. Case (a former congressman), trouncing Ms. Lingle by nearly 20 percentage points.

[dramatis]

From Paul Ryan selection shrouded in secrecy, at Fox:

Romney advisers had hoped to announce Ryan's selection Friday in New Hampshire, but the funeral for the temple shooting victims was schedule for that morning.

This is apparently the reason they didn't announce on Friday. Not like that makes much of a difference, because Friday is the day for bad news. If they were more confident they should have just pushed into next week. The pick was also decided on Aug. 1, so earlier than thought and not actually based on the calls for Romney to pick Ryan. According to Fox News, anyway.

I get the feeling the person writing the article was trying to make this a dramatic story but man did the writing come off stilted.

Erasure is right. Opiate is wrong. Plus it's Hawaii dude.

Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?

[worldrunover]

0.82%........the amount of taxes Romney would have paid in 2010 under the Ryan plan. The ads write themselves http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...s-plan/261027/

This is pretty much all you need to know about the seriousness and validity of the Ryan plan.

[Drek]

Honestly, it's probably not worth the effort. I just tune it out. Life's too short to argue with friends and family about politics.

Fuck that.

Life's too damn short to let ignorance and stupidity persist any longer than we have to.

People treating political debate like it's a social taboo is the number one cause for the decline in quality political discourse. Instead everyone sits in their little echo chambers and only see one small fragment of the larger picture.

Mature conflict resolution is a skill sorely lacking in today's society. A little more arguing over politics would do people a lot of good.

If someone can't handle having their stupidity questioned they need to stop being stupid. I don't treat anyone with kid gloves for being intellectually dishonest or lazy. Fuck 'em.

[Four_Chamber]

0.82% should be the number Democrats talk about from now until election day. If that's not going to make the majority of America say "WTF", I'm not sure what will. If Romney is still elected despite this, I'm not sure what to say. It'd be worse than Bush in 2004.

[Plinko]

0.82% should be the number Democrats talk about from now until election day. If that's not going to make the majority of America say "WTF", I'm not sure what will. If Romney is still elected despite this, I'm not sure what to say. It'd be worse than Bush in 2004.

I agree.

This should be, by far, the most broadcast statistic and talking point for the entire democratic party.

*Paul Ryan talking about his budget in the background*

Show how much Mitt made, then show that tax rate. Show how much the average American makes, then show their tax rate.

Seems like a very easy commercial to make.

[cartoon_soldier]

CNN today morning - Ryan voted for ENDA do Obama can't paint him as a right wing caricature

[Souldriver]

CNN today morning - Ryan voted against ENDA do Obama can't paint him as a right wing caricature

That doesn't even make sense.

[ErasureAcer]

Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?

We can do what we want to. =)

[Hitokage]

CNN today morning - Ryan voted against ENDA [so] Obama can't paint him as a right wing caricature

Chewbacca defense?

[scorcho]

I'm glad Romney picked a candidate who's serious about balancing our deficit.

[Tim-E]

Sunday morning talk show time!

[watershed]

I'm just waiting for the post VP announcement shine to wear off and for the press to actually get serious about the Ryan budget.

[codhand]

Sunday morning talk show time!

Hmm should I go with Meet the Depressed, or Disgrace the Nation...?

[Tim-E]

Gregory is surprisingly staying on top of Preibus while he spouts his bullshit about Obama ruining Medicare. He's also bringing up his votes for Iraq, Part D, and TARP. Preibus continues to stick to the script.

[Tim-E]

Hmm should I go with Meet the Depressed, or Disgrace the Nation...?

Thanks to the Olympics none of them overlap for me :P

[Brinbe]

Reince Priebus was horrible on MTP... nothing but lies and avoidance. Walker isn't much better.

[CHEEZMO™]

Prince Reibus.

Every fucking time. Reading it hurts my mind.

[Suikoguy]

Reince Priebus was horrible on MTP... nothing but lies and avoidance. Walker isn't much better.

Just to clarify, can you classify a time where he was on TV and not horrible?

[Loudninja]

Thune: A Romney-Ryan Ticket Is A Risk To Obama

South Dakota Sen. John Thune insisted that Paul Ryan was not a risky pick for Mitt Romney on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday, instead arguing that it’s President Obama who is now at risk. Thune argued that Obama has “kicked the can down the road” whereas the Romney-Ryan ticket has “actually laid out definitive solutions and answers to America’s problems.”

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...-risk-to-obama

[Matthew Gallant]

CNN today morning - Ryan voted against ENDA do Obama can't paint him as a right wing caricature

I think you mean voted for it. And Weiner voted against it, so he must be a conservative icon, and we can all now laugh at his underwear pics.

[Matthew Gallant]

Thune: A Romney-Ryan Ticket Is A Risk To Obama http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...-risk-to-obama

Republican Senator Informs Nation That The Republican Ticket Is Strong

[Tim-E]

Republican Senator Informs Nation That The Republican Ticket Is Strong

Shocking news

[Loudninja]

Republican Senator Informs Nation That The Republican Ticket Is Strong

I was very surprise to.

[cartoon_soldier]

I think you mean voted for it.

Yes this, sorry

[thefro]

Thune: A Romney-Ryan Ticket Is A Risk To Obama http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...-risk-to-obama

So they're going to claim they've laid out a plan when Romney's talking points say that Ryan's plan isn't Romney's plan and they're going to lay out their new secret plan when Romney is President?

[Baraka in the White House]

So they're going to claim they've laid out a plan when Romney's talking points say that Ryan's plan isn't Romney's plan and they're going to lay out their new secret plan when Romney is President?

We gotta vote for Romney so we can find out what's in him!

[Plinko]

Thune: A Romney-Ryan Ticket Is A Risk To Obama http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...-risk-to-obama

whereas the Romney-Ryan ticket has “actually laid out definitive solutions and answers to America’s problems.”

Nice to see the man is blatantly lying.

[Mengy]

I agree. This should be, by far, the most broadcast statistic and talking point for the entire democratic party. *Paul Ryan talking about his budget in the background* Show how much Mitt made, then show that tax rate. Show how much the average American makes, then show their tax rate. Seems like a very easy commercial to make.

It writes itself practically. I'm still shocked that out of all the candidates, Romney picked Ryan. I mean, it goes against a lot of what Romney has been saying publicly for the past year. One of the two of them will need to change their positions on things, or they will be at odds with each other. I have a feeling Romney will just change his position like he has a habit of doing to suit the situation, which Obama will jump all over of course.

[Loudninja]

Romney Campaign Requested 'Several' Years of Tax Returns of VP Contenders

CHARLOTTE - Mitt Romney requested "several" years of tax returns from his potential running mates, a senior adviser to the candidate said Saturday, suggesting that those considered for the ticket may have been required to reveal more financial documents that the candidate himself. In a briefing with reporters in Virginia Saturday, senior adviser Beth Myers, who was charged with headed the vice president selection process, declined to specify exactly how many years of tax returns were required, saying only that "several" were requested.

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-campaig...-politics.html

[Plinko]

Romney Campaign Requested 'Several' Years of Tax Returns of VP Contenders http://news.yahoo.com/romney-campaig...-politics.html

LOL

Again, EVERY DAY something like this comes out from Romney.

[Dax01]

Romney Campaign Requested 'Several' Years of Tax Returns of VP Contenders http://news.yahoo.com/romney-campaig...-politics.html

"I'll show you mine if you show me yours." Ryan to Romney, discussing Ryan's tax returns.

.

[cartoon_soldier]

Dems need to get more surrogates onto the Sunday shows.

[Brinbe]

Romney Campaign Requested 'Several' Years of Tax Returns of VP Contenders http://news.yahoo.com/romney-campaig...-politics.html

Fucking hilarious

[RDreamer]

I'm glad Romney picked a candidate who's serious about balancing our deficit.

lol, is this a serious post? If so, the Ryan budget doesn't do what you think it does, unless you believe in unicorns.