[Conciliator]

If I like just kind of exploring and finding random locations and events which would be more worth my time? I own both FO3 and NV (and Skyrim) but haven't put more than a few hours into each. Basically all of my hundreds of hours in Morrowind was spent mostly wondering around looking for hidden places to check out.

Fallout 3.

[IceDoesntHelp]

Should be Toronto..during the annexing of Canada.

[Jacobi]

Boston would be really lame, in my humblest opinion. How about manhattan, did we have that before?

[disappeared]

Speaking of the world, I would like to mention an old video game called FUEL. It featured a desert as part of its "wasteland" and looked something like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ1_r9IDcTA#t=00m04s

Now when I imagine a wasteland for a Fallout game, this is what I've always thought of.

It's something Beth - or perhaps any other developer - would never attempt for a post-apocalyptic RPG, but goddamn... it would be so eerie at nights, seeing a few torches of a Raider party off in the distance...

[Conciliator]

Manhattan just seems too obvious.

I'd like to see Atlanta.

[spirity]

People, stop hoping Obsidian is going to do Fallout 4. They won't, Bethesda are going to do it, and the game will be much better for it.

[Drazgul]

People, stop hoping Obsidian is going to do Fallout 4. They won't, Bethesda are going to do it, and the game will be much better for it.

[HocusPocus]

Can't wait to see Fenway Park and Gillette Stadium. Going to go nuts in both.

[Dead Man]

If I like just kind of exploring and finding random locations and events which would be more worth my time? I own both FO3 and NV (and Skyrim) but haven't put more than a few hours into each. Basically all of my hundreds of hours in Morrowind was spent mostly wondering around looking for hidden places to check out.

Yeah, FO3 is the better exploration game.

[Ichor]

IMO, FO3 had the most boring to explore world of almost any open world RPG I've played, only beaten by Oblivion. NV is much better, with Skyrim and Morrowind being even greater.

[The Mana Legend]

IMO, FO3 had the most boring to explore world of almost any open world RPG I've played, only beaten by Oblivion.

"Most boring world to explore I've played"

*literally four words later lists a world more boring*

[Dead Man]

IMO, FO3 had the most boring to explore world of almost any open world RPG I've played, only beaten by Oblivion. NV is much better, with Skyrim and Morrowind being even greater.

The reason I prefer FO3 is because there are so many locations without map markers. with NV, everywhere had markers, even derelict huts with nothing to interact with. It removes any sense of finding hidden areas.

[Soyongdori]

Sounds better than New Vegas, where it takes place in Mojave desert... where it has virtually nothing...

[spirity]

[LQX]

The reason I prefer FO3 is because there are so many locations without map markers. with NV, everywhere had markers, even derelict huts with nothing to interact with. It removes any sense of finding hidden areas.

To me that was good thing as you could warp close to anywhere as there were so many points. For a game this size it made traveling not so much of a burden.

[Soyongdori]

I didn't like the fact that Rivet City was the only major city/hub in FO3.

Every single locations felt too small in FO3.

Also, the metro locations were Oblivion version of caves/dungeons. All look fucking same.

[Enduin]

Speaking of the world, I would like to mention an old video game called FUEL. It featured a desert as part of its "wasteland" and looked something like this... [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ1_r9IDcTA#t=00m04s[url] Now when I imagine a wasteland for a Fallout game, this is what I've always thought of. It's something Beth - or perhaps any other developer - would never attempt for a post-apocalyptic RPG, but goddamn... it would be so eerie at nights, seeing a few torches of a Raider party off in the distance...

Fuck that just makes me want a Mad Max game so badly. I would love for someone to make that type of game, a mix of Mad Max and Road Warrior. Giant ass world with tons of little stories and factions. Everyone trying to survive and you just go around stumbling upon other people in peril. Kind of like a RDR but with cars and a greater sense of helplessness and futility.

[DaBuddaDa]

I'd be OK with this if they do the same as in Assassin's Creed III and make it New England in general instead of strictly the Boston area.

[Ichor]

"Most boring world to explore I've played" *literally four words later lists a world more boring*

Yes, because that's a fair look at my sentence.

[timetokill]

I guess Obsidian can do the superior, non-Boston follow-up game then. I'm okay with that.

[Finalow]

People, stop hoping Obsidian is going to do Fallout 4. They won't, Bethesda are going to do it, and the game will be much better for it.

not over yet.

[~Kinggi~]

People, stop hoping Obsidian is going to do Fallout 4. They won't, Bethesda are going to do it, and the game will be much better for it.

Truth. Bethesda are the guys you go to when you want to move the series forward. Obsidian deals in leftovers.

[dimb]

Truth. Bethesda are the guys you go to when you want to move the series forward. Obsidian deals in leftovers.

Nice try, but the systems in Bethesda series move regressively.

[Fjordson]

I'd be OK with this if they do the same as in Assassin's Creed III and make it New England in general instead of strictly the Boston area.

Yeah, I can easily see that. Just a big chunk of the New England Commonwealth (which was Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut).

The scope could get impressive if they save this for next gen.

[~Kinggi~]

Nice try, but the systems in Bethesda series move regressively.

Its not a try, its a reflection of a majority opinion.

[klee123]

The only advantage I give to NV over 3 is the writing.

With regards to actual gameplay mechanics, Obsidian owes a lot to the awesome F3 modding community, as a lot of the new features NV had over 3 were originally mods.

[nickslicl]

Fallout 3 introduced me to the captivating Fallout universe and New Vegas cemented a love for it.

Unfortunately, Boston holds no appeal for me.

[Trigger]

I think I'd prefer fewer hubs, but make them more active and big.

[spirity]

The only advantage I give to NV over 3 is the writing. With regards to actual gameplay mechanics, Oblivion owes a lot to the awesome F3 modding community, as a lot of the new features NV had over 3 were originally mods.

I think you meant to say New Vegas and not Oblivion. But yeah, Obsidian cherry picked some of the more popular F3 mods and incorporated them into NV. Arwens Primary Needs and Weapon Mod Kits spring to mind.

[klee123]

I think you meant to say New Vegas and not Oblivion. But yeah, Obsidian cherry picked some of the more popular F3 mods and incorporated them into NV. Arwens Primary Needs and Weapon Mod Kits spring to mind.

Yep, my mistake. I meant by Obsidian.

[QP3]

Can't wait to see Fenway Park and Gillette Stadium. Going to go nuts in both.

Foxboro is 30 miles from Boston ... How big of a geographical area did F3 cover?

[Strummerjones]

I think you meant to say New Vegas and not Oblivion. But yeah, Obsidian cherry picked some of the more popular F3 mods and incorporated them into NV. Arwens Primary Needs and Weapon Mod Kits spring to mind.

Yes, because incorporating ideas from mods that make the game considerably more interesting than Fallout 3 somehow invalidates those same huge advances New Vegas makes over that game.

[Mr. Pointy]

I'd buy this if Seth McFarlane voiced every character in the game.

[bjork]

I hope there's some spoof baseball team that never wins and a vault full of fans who will have a clothing-based faction thing where they flip their shit if you wear another team's uniform.

[Mxrz]

Be nice to have a fallout thread that didn't turn into an Obsidian circle jerk for once, or even one that didn't devolve into a bitchfest about NV vs 3. Neither came close to the first game, so bleh.

If this is going to be set in the Northeast, I hope they will consider playing up the weather effects to contrast with the Southwest setting. I don't want just "Fallout in a new city." Having a harsh Winter as a big survival issue might be fun for a change.

[tatsuki]

People, stop hoping Obsidian is going to do Fallout 4. They won't, Bethesda are going to do it, and the game will be much better for it.

Hopefully this happens. Obsidian should come no where near Fallout 4. I've never fell asleep so much during a video game before until I played New Vegas.

[Marvie_3]

The reason I prefer FO3 is because tShere are so many locations without map markers. with NV, everywhere had markers, even derelict huts with nothing to interact with. It removes any sense of finding hidden areas.

Same here. This is a big part of what kept me playing FO3 for so long. In NV, I could only wander around the desert for so long before getting bored.

[Yopis]

No obsidian and using boston which sucks in every way you can imagine. No buy from me.

[CitizenCope]

This is my backyard and I always feared a nuke strike from the USSR growing up. This is cool!

[Patryn]

Out of curiousity, why do so many people hate Boston? Are they just all New Yorkers?

[Lax Mike]

Out of curiousity, why do so many people hate Boston? Are they just all New Yorkers?

Boston lost its scrappy underdog charm when the Sox, Patriots, Celtics, and even Bruins won championships over the past decade.

[Bombadil]

Yes, because incorporating ideas from mods that make the game considerably more interesting than Fallout 3 somehow invalidates those same huge advances New Vegas makes over that game.

I don't think that's the point.

The mods that improved Fallout 3 were free and make the game more interesting.

Incorporating mods into a "new" game and slapping a 60 dollar price tag on it is an interesting business model, though.

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Rage engine! That is all.

[LowerLevel]

No obsidian and using boston which sucks in every way you can imagine. No buy from me.

No worries, will most likely buy multiple copies Like I do with all Bethesda game... Minus NV and Skyrim for Ps3 so far. But will most likely get Skyrim for Ps3 when it gets cheap! NV is a possibility as well, but unlikely. I will be ALL over this, unless they really screw it up!

[Derrick01]

Truth. Bethesda are the guys you go to when you want to move the series forward. Obsidian deals in leftovers.

Funny considering how each new game they make gets dumbed down more than the last. That doesn't sound like moving forward.

[Yopis]

Out of curiousity, why do so many people hate Boston? Are they just all New Yorkers?

They sound like morons why else.

[spirity]

Yes, because incorporating ideas from mods that make the game considerably more interesting than Fallout 3 somehow invalidates those same huge advances New Vegas makes over that game.

I wasn't claiming it invalidated anything, I made a statement of fact. You are reading too much into it. I actually think using good ideas is.. well, a good idea.

[BlueTsunami]

There's a lot of interesting places around the coast of Boston and 30 minutes westward. The only thing they have to nail is the landscape, I can't even begin to imagine how the region looks as an arid post apocalyptic wasteland.

[Dead Man]

There's a lot of interesting places around the coast of Boston and 30 minutes westward. The only thing they have to nail is the landscape, I can't even begin to imagine how the region looks as an arid post apocalyptic wasteland.

People said the same thing about Nevada and DC. I expect rocky desert and dead plants. Then I expect mods to fix it.

[NotoriousLynx]

I don't believe this rumor, but I thought I'd go ahead and make a speculation topic on reddit anyways for fun:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comm...lation_thread/

To summarize, I would like to see the player character be a synth (an android) on a quest to save the other synths, who are used as slaves by their creators from post-war MIT, the Institute. I also hope that the game takes kinda more survival horror tone to it (think Point Lookout) with Lovecraftian creatures since its Lovecraft Country. (It goes more into the idea in the topic, its not too off imo, there's been tons of body horror, mind screws, and elements of cosmic horror (there was even an entire building dedicated to the Dunwich Horror in Fallout 3).