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Originally Posted by DBebm5: View Post
Hes going to stay in. He has people defending him. Its just going to be seen as an attack from the left/babykillers that want to destroy jesus in the USA, and Obama isn't a citizen.. blah..bla..h
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#752

Originally Posted by FyreWulff: View Post
He must live under the biggest rock known to man. There's no way he didn't hear about the Josef Fritzl case when it was worldwide news.
That was in Austria. Why would you expect a Republican Congressman to read the news in Austria? He probably doesn't even read Austrian, English is the only language that matters. You saying news in other countries is more important than America? Why do you hate America?
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He's staying in.
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Originally Posted by Clevinger: View Post
Yes.
Play the numbers game. There's like a 20 percent chance Romney will win.
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Originally Posted by DeathbyVolcano: View Post
Play the numbers game. There's like a 20 percent chance Romney will win.
Less than that now, if Obama takes advantage of what this idiotic Congressman just said.
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...meanwhile, in the Mark Clayton thread, crickets are chirping. Easy pickings, I suppose.

Just imagine what they could accomplish if Mark Clayton and Todd Akin would only reach across the isle and work together.
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Originally Posted by DeathbyVolcano: View Post
Play the numbers game. There's like a 20 percent chance Romney will win.
It's unlikely. Let's see how the polls play out after the "Ryan bump".
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Originally Posted by Clevinger: View Post
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Originally Posted by Devolution: View Post
Is whatever panel they have on rape and pregnancy going to feature all men this time too?
Only if he's on the panel.

This guy gets it.
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Originally Posted by TacticalFox88: View Post
Less than that now, if Obama takes advantage of what this idiotic Congressman just said.
And give the right the opportunity to continue to hammer him on the economy?
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Originally Posted by FyreWulff: View Post
He must live under the biggest rock known to man. There's no way he didn't hear about the Josef Fritzl case when it was worldwide news.
There's a name I'd hoped never to read again. Oof.
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Originally Posted by TacticalFox88: View Post
Jesus christ that Facebook page gave me a headache trying to read it. So much stupidity and ignorance.
Disturbing thing is that it has 603k likes while the DNC has like 22k. :(
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Probably old, but Clay Akin tweeted this yesterday afternoon:

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"2nd place on Idol. 2nd place on Apprentice. And now thanks to @reptoddakin I'm only the 2nd stupidest Aiken!"
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Originally Posted by Omegasquash: View Post
And give the right the opportunity to continue to hammer him on the economy?
Hammer him on what exactly? He has plenty to run on in his economic record. The only thing you could possibly criticizes him for is that it's taking too long, which is irrational in and of itself.
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Originally Posted by TacticalFox88: View Post
Hammer him on what exactly? He has plenty to run on in his economic record. The only thing you could possibly criticizes him for is that it's taking too long, which is irrational in and of itself.
Not only is it irrational, it's counter factual. The recovery has been better than Bush's recovery, and growth after it turned around has been some of the biggest in decades. Along with that, housing crashes have been proven to take longer to recover from than other types by a few economists. Add to all that the fact that it could have been even better if we didn't downsize government hirin during this time mostly because of idiot republicans, and it would be insane to hammer him on that.
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Pardon if this has been covered, but what's this on fb I see about Aiken cosponsoring a Rape bill with Ryan? Distortion or truth?
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More statements from Akin

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AKIN: You know, Dr. Willkie has just released a statement and part of his letter, I think he just stated it very clearly. He said, of course Akin never used the word legitimate to refer to the rapist, but to false claims like those made in Roe v. Wade and I think that simplifies it….. There isn’t any legitimate rapist…. [I was] making the point that there were people who use false claims, like those that basically created Roe v. Wade.
This guy legitimately has no fucking clue what the controversy is about. None.


And since we're on a new page and people need to see this to believe it Representative Steve King defends Akin by saying "I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest"


Originally Posted by Ignatz Mouse: View Post
Pardon if this has been covered, but what's this on fb I see about Aiken cosponsoring a Rape bill with Ryan? Distortion or truth?
Truth. It was a bill that wouldn't allow federal funding for any abortion. Right now there's an exception to that for rape and incest victims. This bill that Ryan cosponsored would change that to only victims of some sort of new term made up by the writers called "forcible rape." Conceivably this would mean that incest victims would have to carry on their pregnancy unless they proved it was a "forcible rape," whatever the hell that is.
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edit. ooops
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Originally Posted by RDreamer: View Post
More statements from Akin



This guy legitimately has no fucking clue what the controversy is about. None.


And since we're on a new page and people need to see this to believe it Representative Steve King defends Akin by saying "I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest"



Truth. It was a bill that wouldn't allow federal funding for any abortion. Right now there's an exception to that for rape and incest victims. This bill that Ryan cosponsored would change that to only victims of some sort of new term made up by the writers called "forcible rape." Conceivably this would mean that incest victims would have to carry on their pregnancy unless they proved it was a "forcible rape," whatever the hell that is.
What is "false rape"? Is that the new euphemism for "forcible" or "legitimate rape"
Why do they even need to be raped. Its not their damn body.
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Originally Posted by RDreamer: View Post
Truth. It was a bill that wouldn't allow federal funding for any abortion. Right now there's an exception to that for rape and incest victims. This bill that Ryan cosponsored would change that to only victims of some sort of new term made up by the writers called "forcible rape." Conceivably this would mean that incest victims would have to carry on their pregnancy unless they proved it was a "forcible rape," whatever the hell that is.
I suppose "wow" is redundant at this point, but ...wow.
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Originally Posted by Omegasquash: View Post
And give the right the opportunity to continue to hammer him on the economy?
They haven't even been trying to talk about the economy in the last couple of weeks, mostly because it keeps improving (albeit extremely slowly since we have no stimulus measures going on).

Originally Posted by Ignatz Mouse: View Post
Pardon if this has been covered, but what's this on fb I see about Aiken cosponsoring a Rape bill with Ryan? Distortion or truth?
There are two bills relevant to this question. One of them, the No Taxpayer Funding For Abortion Act, is cosponsored by 173 Republicans including Ryan and Akin. This is the one that originally banned federal funding for abortions except in the case of "forcible rape." (It has been amended since its original introduction to remove that language, and the amended version is the one that passed the House.)

However, Ryan and Akin also cosponsored (along with several other Republicans) a much more sweeping bill called the Sanctity of Human Life Act, which ominously makes only the following two statements:

* that from the moment of conception a fetus is deemed to have "the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood";
* that Congress, as well as each state, has the authority to act to protect the lives of all the humans living in their respective jurisdictions.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...112hr212ih.pdf

What this bill is designed to justify is up to you, but hopefully it's clear it's designed to be able to justify a lot.
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We should also note that passing such a measure would lead to an epic legal battle around invitro fertilization.

Currently, a dozen or so embryos are created and the viable specimen is used, while the rest are tossed (depending on the state, you could actually use those to extract stem cells).
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Originally Posted by pigeon: View Post
They haven't even been trying to talk about the economy in the last couple of weeks, mostly because it keeps improving (albeit extremely slowly since we have no stimulus measures going on).



There are two bills relevant to this question. One of them, the No Taxpayer Funding For Abortion Act, is cosponsored by 173 Republicans including Ryan and Akin. This is the one that originally banned federal funding for abortions except in the case of "forcible rape." (It has been amended since its original introduction to remove that language, and the amended version is the one that passed the House.)

However, Ryan and Akin also cosponsored (along with several other Republicans) a much more sweeping bill called the Sanctity of Human Life Act, which ominously makes only the following two statements:

* that from the moment of conception a fetus is deemed to have "the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood";

* that Congress, as well as each state, has the authority to act to protect the lives of all the humans living in their respective jurisdictions.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...112hr212ih.pdf

What this bill is designed to justify is up to you, but hopefully it's clear it's designed to be able to justify a lot.
Whoa. I'm just sitting here trying to imagine all the weird ways that could turn horrifying.
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* that from the moment of conception a fetus is deemed to have "the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood";
Pregnant women could use carpool lanes. There would also need to be murder investigations into EVERY. SINGLE. MISCARRIAGE.

Even if every single atom on the planet magically turned into a middle finger there wouldn't be enough for the GOP. Pure evil.
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Originally Posted by Sye d'Burns: View Post
...meanwhile, in the Mark Clayton thread, crickets are chirping. Easy pickings, I suppose.

Just imagine what they could accomplish if Mark Clayton and Todd Akin would only reach across the isle and work together.
Yes, nobody is discussing the Dem candidate for Senate from Tennessee that even his own party has disavowed because he has no chance of winning and he's not even considered a candidate for the party he's representing. You're foolish if you think the two are comparable.

You know what really pisses me off about line of argument? Instead of discussing what the person did that was fucked up, you have to drag and completely non relevant topic into the conversation just to justify how it's okay that this person is a terrible human being. Reflects poorly on you.

Originally Posted by Brian Griffin: View Post
Pregnant women could use carpool lanes. There would also need to be murder investigations into EVERY. SINGLE. MISCARRIAGE.

Even if every single atom on the planet magically turned into a middle finger there wouldn't be enough for the GOP. Pure evil.
Periods could be considered manslaughter so all of them would need to be inspected for passed embryos that didn't attach to the wall of the uterus. All female urine would need to be inspected for fertilized eggs. A woman getting stressed enough from an argument and causing a miscarriage could be second degree murder if the person starting the argument knew she was pregnant.
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Originally Posted by Veezy: View Post
Periods could be considered manslaughter so all of them would need to be inspected for passed embryos that didn't attach to the wall of the uterus. All female urine would need to be inspected for fertilized eggs. A woman getting stressed enough from an argument and causing a miscarriage could be second degree murder if the person starting the argument knew she was pregnant.
It's ok, Tampax will invent a new tampon with embryo detection and a satellite link so the authorities can be called to arrest women who's bodies murder babies each month. I'm sure the toilet companies can implement similar tech as well.

Progress!
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Originally Posted by Sye d'Burns: View Post
...meanwhile, in the Mark Clayton thread, crickets are chirping. Easy pickings, I suppose.

Just imagine what they could accomplish if Mark Clayton and Todd Akin would only reach across the isle and work together.
The entire party has disowned him and almost none of his ideas or proposals are in line with party ideas.
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Now Romney is asking him to step down.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UDP9DYWGgyA

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GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney is calling on a defiant Rep. Todd Akin to step aside in the Missouri Senate race.

Akin, a six-term House member, has been under fire since saying Sunday that pregnancy could be prevented in the case of "legitimate rape" because "the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."
34 minutes.
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Originally Posted by ivysaur12: View Post
Now Romney is asking him to step down.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UDP9DYWGgyA



34 minutes.
FINAL COUNTDOWN TO AKIN-GEDDON!!
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Originally Posted by JCreasy: View Post
THE FINAL HOUR
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Originally Posted by commedieu: View Post
The sad part is that they do actually represent a certain population. Well, actually its terrifying. Their lack of understanding is just ... theres no words. We can't saw off the entire country... my god.
They represent the part of the population that thinks pregnancy lasts an entire tour of duty in a foreign country and that you can get pregnant from a 3D porno.
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I just tried to control+f "rape" to find this thread. Took me two times. That's sad. What the fuck, America.
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Originally Posted by RDreamer: View Post
Are you fucking kidding me? Representative Steve King defended Akin and said "I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest"

What world are these people living in? Seriously what in hell is going on? Who's electing these people?
Wow... Maybe those guys should go back to school. Obviously they cheated on their biology tests
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Originally Posted by The_Technomancer: View Post
Whoa. I'm just sitting here trying to imagine all the weird ways that could turn horrifying.
I've been told a pretty high number of pregnancies results in a miscarriage within the first week or two (leading to a lot of women to not know they are pregnant in the first place), but would the personhood at birth law make every failed pregnancy require a death certificate?
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His latest tweets.

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I am #stillstanding. Will you stand with me? https://t.co/PZAfBLWg
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I apologized but the liberal media is trying to make me drop out. Please stand w/ me tonight by signing my petition at http://t.co/Pd94rynC
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Originally Posted by mandiller: View Post
I've been told a pretty high number of pregnancies results in a miscarriage within the first week or two (leading to a lot of women to not know they are pregnant in the first place), but would the personhood at birth law make every failed pregnancy require a death certificate?
This happened to my wife and we learned from her doctor that it is pretty common. She had a feeling she was pregnant and took a bunch of tests that turned out positive. Then a couple of weeks later, around the time when her period was supposed to start if she wasn't pregnant, she started feeling cramps. She took a bunch more tests and this time they were negative and the next day she got her period.

So yeah, sometimes an embryo gets started and then the woman's body says "nope" and flushes it.
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Originally Posted by pxleyes: View Post
His latest tweets.
This guy is amazing, the LIBERAL MEDIA? I think he means HIS OWN FUCKING PARTY.
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Originally Posted by pxleyes: View Post
His latest tweets.
Haha!
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As a Missourian this is fucking embarrassing. I don't care much for McCaskill but I don't see any other option.
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Originally Posted by B-Dubs: View Post
This guy is amazing, the LIBERAL MEDIA? I think he means HIS OWN FUCKING PARTY.
Tweet that to him.
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From his 'Petition':

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When you make a mistake you tell people you’re sorry, you don’t try and hide it.
I don't think he's actually apologized yet has he?
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Originally Posted by marrec: View Post
From his 'Petition':



I don't think he's actually apologized yet has he?
He said he misspoke, which I guess is his apology.
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Originally Posted by pxleyes: View Post
His latest tweets.
Is Romney part of the liberal media?
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That's an odd petition. "I was kind of wrong if you interpret it that way and for that interpretation I'm sorry. Donate three bucks if you agree!!!"
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Originally Posted by marrec: View Post
I don't think he's actually apologized yet has he?
Does it really matter? His mistake is that he said what was already ingrained in his belief system. No apology changes that.
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Originally Posted by CharlieDigital: View Post
Tweet that to him.
Done, if he responds I'll post it here.
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has Rep. Louie Gohmert weighted in on this issue yet???

i REALLY REALLY care what he thinks
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Originally Posted by RDreamer: View Post
Are you fucking kidding me? Representative Steve King defended Akin and said "I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest"

What world are these people living in? Seriously what in hell is going on? Who's electing these people?
Never heard of a girl getting pregnant from rape? Then I guess his quote below is invalid:

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What I said is that we need to respect humans more than we do animals. Whenever we start elevating animals up to above that of humans, we've crossed a moral line. If there is a sexual predator out there who has impregnated a young girl… that sexual predator can pick that girl up off the playground at the middle school and haul her across the state line and force her to get an abortion to eradicate the evidence of his crime and bring her back and drop her off at the swing set and that’s not against the law in the United States of America.
But the best part is that this was his response as to why he's against banning dog-fighting.
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^



Wow.

Also, I'm pretty sure that transporting a minor across state lines is against the law in these circumstances
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This is amazing. Both Romney and Paul have asked him to step down, along with countless other Republicans but he is standing for. Quite ballsy. I wonder if he'll have a change of heart when the new polls come out, which should show a big swing in favor of the democrat.