[Palmer_v1]

http://journalstar.com/news/local/cr...ba171dc28.html

The woman who told police she was the victim of a brutal hate crime in Lincoln last month will be arrested on suspicion of lying to police. The Lancaster County Attorney issued an arrest warrant Tuesday morning for Charlie Rogers. Rogers, 33, told police three masked men broke into her apartment on July 22, tied her up, carved anti-gay slurs into her skin and tried to light her house on fire. After binding her with zip ties, she told police, one of the men held her down while another cut derogatory words into her arms and abdomen, sliced a cross into her chest and cut the front of her thighs and shins. Rogers said the attackers rolled her onto her stomach, pinning her arms under her body. Then, she said, they cut her buttocks, the back of her thighs and the back of her right calf. The reported attack galvanized Lincoln and made national news. Thousands of people from Lincoln and Omaha attended rallies and donated money to support Rogers after the attack. Now, police say, they believe she made it all up. There was no apparent sign of a struggle in the living room where Rogers said she was attacked on her bed, the warrant for her arrest says. “There was no apparent blood on the bedspread; even though Ms. Rogers reported she was rolled on to her stomach after she had been cut on her arms, abdomen, chest and front of her legs while being held down,” the warrant says. A forensic pathologist contacted by the FBI, which assisted in the investigation, said Rogers made the cuts herself or they were done with her permission. The cuts looked superficial and symmetrical, avoided sensitive areas of the body and would’ve taken considerable time to inflict, pathologist Michelle Elieff said in the warrant. Moreover, they’re in places accessible to the victim and follow her frame of reference. Police found a pile of clothes, white knit gloves and a red box cutter on the living room floor. Rogers said the gloves did not belong to her, but DNA testing determined she was “the major contributor” of DNA inside of them, the warrant says. Investigators discovered that white knit gloves, zip ties, blades and a red utility knife were purchased July 17 at a hardware store at 945 S. 27th St. During an interview, Rogers told police she shops at that store. Investigators then showed a clerk at the store a photo lineup and the clerk picked Rogers from the lineup and identified her as the person who bought the items, the arrest warrant says. Police were expected to arrest Rogers on Tuesday.

I remember being very surprised that something like this had happened in Lincoln, as it's always felt like a very open minded community. Now it seems like this was all staged, though I'm not sure why.

Glad nobody was arrested wrongfully based on her original story.

Edit: Original thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...988&highlight=

[Dead Man]

Stupid woman.

[LiK]

someone wants attention

[AlteredBeast]

LOL. Knew it. Unfortunately, people will most likely remember the allegations, not the retraction, as is usually the case.

[commedieu]

She needs help :\

LOL. Knew it. Unfortunately, people will most likely remember the allegations, not the retraction, as is usually the case.

Not like it is a far fetched idea though.

[Forever]

Must've been Munchhausen syndrome.

[Outlaw]

[NoRéN]

She was obviously crazy. I mean, look:

There was no apparent sign of a struggle in the living room where Rogers said she was attacked on her bed

You crazy lady! Beds go in the bedroom.

[Snkfanatic]

Wow...what would make her do this??

[Dennis]

Remember the GAF outrage?

I think in cases like these it is probably wise to let the police do the investigation first before jumping to too many conclusions.

[Palmer_v1]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...988&highlight=

The original thread when it looked like she was the victim.

[Alligatorjandro]

wow

[HoodWinked]

hawt

[yn-neko hates a cat]

I wish attention to things like this was an unlimited resource but this kind of thing ultimately will steal much needed attention (with a backlash effect) when real victims come forward in such crimes. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish but she has probably done some serious damage to public goodwill.

[Sye d'Burns]

hawt

That's not the woman in question. That's the Obama mama that pulled a fake democratic attack on election day in 08.

[commedieu]

Remember the GAF outrage? I think in cases like these it is probably wise to let the police do the investigation first before jumping to too many conclusions.

I dont think its a beyond belief response to be outraged over this. I mean, remember the outrage about Iraq having something to do with 911...?

Sure, you have to tread lightly with media. But that story would have upset anyone. Didn't really have to wait for all the facts, as it took some time for police to realize that she did it herself.

I didn't see the original story, but I'm sure reading it for what it was, woulda turned my stomach a tad.

Its as if Gaf can't respond to any developing news story. People just have to say:

"Well, it sounds bad. But lets wait for everything to come together. I'll subscribe for the update months later to discuss."

For every News thread

[NoRéN]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...988&highlight= The original thread when it looked like she was the victim.

I hope no one got Inflammable Slinky the fuck out of there.

[El_TigroX]

I forget... this girl claimed the B was for Barack, right? That was in 2008...?

[Sye d'Burns]

I forget... this girl claimed the B was for Barack, right? That was in 2008...?

Yeah, Ashely Todd

[FStop7]

I forget... this girl claimed the B was for Barack, right? That was in 2008...?

Yep.

[Bombadil]

Too many threads like this end up changing direction before long. Reserving judgement for now You're an idiot. Changing direction? As long as the reported facts of a person having masked intruders break into their home, tied them up, strip them, cut them, then tried to burn them alive are even slightly accurate, how could this ever be anything other than a horrific act of barbarism?

Someone has been redeemed.

[Cat Party]

The perils of jumping to conclusions on display big time.

[faceless007]

Remember the GAF outrage? I think in cases like these it is probably wise to let the police do the investigation first before jumping to too many conclusions.

What are you, some kind of defense force? Get that rational thinking and waiting for the whole story out of here, rushing to judgment and knee-jerk outrage is what makes us human. /sarcasm

[kirblar]

Wow...what would make her do this??

Same reason bad singers (that know they're bad) go on American Idol in crazy outfits.

[Sunflower]

The good news is all the people aghast and saying "I can't believe anyone would do this" don't have to believe it anymore.

[Skeyser]

So this is the last I want to hear about casting aspersions on the veracity of the crime. There is literally no evidence of a hoax and good evidence to the contrary. So, enough of that.

I like this one too

[eznark]

[Fari]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...988&highlight= The original thread when it looked like she was the victim.

It's amusing how every unfortunate incident reported here, true or not, leads so many people to declare that they've lost faith in the entire human race.

[El_TigroX]

Is this short hand for Tawana Brawley at this point? What I always found weird about that case was that she shit on herself. Above all that's the weirdest part.

[Sye d'Burns]

It's amusing how every unfortunate incident reported here, true or not, leads so many people to declare that they've lost faith in the entire human race.

It's dramatics. They never had the faith in the first place. The occasional stories just serve to verify their worldview.

[eznark]

Is this short hand for Tawana Brawley at this point? What I always found weird about that case was that she shit on herself. Above all that's the weirdest part.

That's what I was referencing, yes. I didn't think anyone would know a picture of Tawanna Brawley

[Palmer_v1]

Is this short hand for Tawana Brawley at this point? What I always found weird about that case was that she shit on herself. Above all that's the weirdest part.

... time to look this up.

[daycru]

I remember the original thread, sure it's a hindsight goldmine now. I remember Count being right on the money.

[Lead Based Paint]

Too many threads like this end up changing direction before long. Reserving judgement for now

Awwwwwwwwwww Yeaaaaaaaah. Judgement now unreserved. Why would you go and do that? The FBI frames people for a living, you can't trick them!

[Inflammable Slinky]

Well, mea culpa. I'll admit I was hasty in my reaction and I apologize for anyone I blew up at in that thread.

Still, doesn't anyone find it a bit fucked up that this woman is so screwed up that she engaged in extreme self-mutilation and the response is jail time? I mean cmon, this is the kinda shit you go to a mental hospital for, not a cage.

[CrushDance]

Hate crimes are a weird concept to me. I mean I understand that some people will hurt others due to their wack minds. But isn't that just a crime?...I understand why they exist. But it doesn't sound like something that can aid in a truly equal society in the future.

[Zophar]

The perils of jumping to conclusions on display big time.

Ironic, given that this thread is full of people shouting guilty over just an arrest warrant. Guilty until proven innocent, that's the American way.

[Inflammable Slinky]

Hate crimes are a weird concept to me. I mean I understand that some people will hurt others due to their wack minds. But isn't that just a crime?...I understand why they exist. But it doesn't sound like something that can aid in a truly equal society in the future.

Cmon, its not that hard a concept once you stop watching South Park. Hate crimes are crimes that both attack the victim and are intended to terrorize the group that the victim belongs to. Thus, the archetypical "Burning a cross on the lawn of a black family" resulted not only in property damage and fear to the family, but terror of future crimes to the entire black community in that area.

And let's be real, "truly equal society in the future?" Let's worry about the shittons of inequality we're drowning in right now first.

[Bombadil]

Well, mea culpa. I'll admit I was hasty in my reaction and I apologize for anyone I blew up at in that thread. Still, doesn't anyone find it a bit fucked up that this woman is so screwed up that she engaged in extreme self-mutilation and the response is jail time? I mean cmon, this is the kinda shit you go to a mental hospital for, not a cage.

Well it wasn't extreme self-mutilation because she took care to give her self very superficial cuts that didn't cause much internal damage. It was one of the reasons why her claims were suspicious.

But yes, it is stupid if she receives jail time. She just needs a therapist.

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

She needs mental help.

[Deified Data]

Love seeing GAF eat crow.

I would have fallen for it, too.

[CrushDance]

Cmon, its not that hard a concept once you stop watching South Park. Hate crimes are crimes that both attack the victim and are intended to terrorize the group that the victim belongs to. Thus, the archetypical "Burning a cross on the lawn of a black family" resulted not only in property damage and fear to the family, but terror of future crimes to the entire black community in that area. And let's be real, "truly equal society in the future?" Let's worry about the shittons of inequality we're drowning in right now first.

That's why I said future. I know what type of world we live in now. What I meant is that at some point though, this will have to change if everyone is to be given true equality. And my concern is that it might cause a negative backlash as minorities of all sorts at that time may feel attacked. The problem I see is: Will people who have for so long been victims wants the thin layer of protection that they have removed? It's a dangerous game telling someone that they're a victim all the time.

[Devolution]

Hate crimes are a weird concept to me. I mean I understand that some people will hurt others due to their wack minds. But isn't that just a crime?...I understand why they exist. But it doesn't sound like something that can aid in a truly equal society in the future.

If they indiscriminately attack people that makes others more fearful.

That's why I said future. I know what type of world we live in now. What I meant is that at some point though, this will have to change if everyone is to be given true equality. And my concern is that it might cause a negative backlash as minorities of all sorts at that time may feel attacked. The problem I see is: Will people who have for so long been victims wants the thin layer of protection that they have removed? It's a dangerous game telling someone that they're a victim all the time.

You do realize it can swing both ways if someone's intent to harm is based on race, sexuality or gender right?

[CrushDance]

I know that. And I'm not saying that hate crime laws shouldn't exist. Just wondering the epic drama that will unfold on the "the day" we decide to get rid of AA and hate crime laws in a truly equal society. Because even if everyone gets along, there are still going to be people who feel slighted or wronged and it won't be pretty.

[Sye d'Burns]

Love seeing GAF eat crow. I would have fallen for it, too.

GAF doesn't eat crow. The threads just fade into obscurity.

[Inflammable Slinky]

^^^^Hey, I've got "caw-caw" coming from my stomach right now!

I know that. And I'm not saying that hate crime laws shouldn't exist. Just wondering the epic drama that will unfold on the "the day" we decide to get rid of AA and hate crime laws in a truly equal society. Because even if everyone gets along, there are still going to be people who feel slighted or wronged and it won't be pretty.

Spoilers: It ain't gonna happen. Inequality is increasing, those corrective measures are already insufficient and under attack from the right. There is no hope for equality, give in to despair.

[kirblar]

Well, mea culpa. I'll admit I was hasty in my reaction and I apologize for anyone I blew up at in that thread. Still, doesn't anyone find it a bit fucked up that this woman is so screwed up that she engaged in extreme self-mutilation and the response is jail time? I mean cmon, this is the kinda shit you go to a mental hospital for, not a cage.

She could probably get probation as part of a plea deal involving treatment.

[CrushDance]

^^^^Hey, I've got "caw-caw" coming from my stomach right now! Spoilers: It ain't gonna happen. Inequality is increasing, those corrective measures are already insufficient and under attack from the right. There is no hope for equality, give in to despair.

I hate to think that we will never achieve harmony as a species.

[dIEHARD]

Awwwwwwwwwww Yeaaaaaaaah. Judgement now unreserved. Why would you go and do that? The FBI frames people for a living, you can't trick them!

somebody called you an idiot for that, you should have went H.A.M. on them.

[timetokill]

But yes, it is stupid if she receives jail time. She just needs a therapist.

I disagree. Personally I think that willfully lying to police about a crime is one of the worst things you can do. It's fortunate that nobody was arrested and wrongly punished/imprisoned for it. But not everybody is so lucky.