[chaosblade]

Question: Is skill linking Melia with heavy armor worth it for that skill bonus? Just wondering about that. The skill bonus of +30 ether defense? Or should I just stick to medium and light armor?

If you have problems with Melia drawing aggro, sure. Just don't use Reyn to link since his costs more to link.

There are situations/builds where that's a really useful setup, but it requires a decent number of gems and skill links to set Melia up as a proper tank. Usually only applies to self-imposed challenges though.

[crimsonspider89]

Nah I am at the portion of the game after reaching fallen arm and getting the 7th character. Just doing quests and such before I move forward to get the affinity level up. Just wondering if I need it. AKA are there lot of heavy area effect attacks in the upcoming areas?

[chaosblade]

Not that I remember. One boss comes to mind over the next few areas, but that's it. There are some AoE talent arts, but you'll need shield for those anyway.

If you have coins for it, it's a nice bonus to have since Melia doesn't really need great agility. If your coins are invested in other things already, it's probably not worth bothering with. It's only 15 coins to link with Dunban, which isn't much if you've been killing as many unique monsters as possible (and you should have!)

[crimsonspider89]

I have 100 affinity coins. So yeah. LOL.

I already did it on Sharla so that was who I was going to skill link with.

[Karsticles]

Level 78-84 is good for the final boss. If you get over 84, it gets a bit easy.

I'd say anything over 80 is easy.

Question: Is skill linking Melia with heavy armor worth it for that skill bonus? Just wondering about that. The skill bonus of +30 ether defense? Or should I just stick to medium and light armor?

It's not worth a lot, but heavy armor can be nice for Melia simply because a lot of unique bosses like to do AoE physical attacks, and the extra physical defense helps. You can also make Melia into a tank with that setup, which IMO is not a bad idea at all. Before you get Night Vision gems, she's right there with Riki as being your best tank for fights well above your level.

Nah I am at the portion of the game after reaching fallen arm and getting the 7th character. Just doing quests and such before I move forward to get the affinity level up. Just wondering if I need it. AKA are there lot of heavy area effect attacks in the upcoming areas?

Area attacks stay pretty low throughout the game outside of unique fights.

[Smiles and Cries]

I'm so lost... Mechonis Field is more frustrating on the 3rd <!>
I think I go up that screw path to the very top to fin my way down to it but I cannot seem to find my way when I get to the top they don't seem to connect

need a landmark up there

I'd think anything over 80 would be easy. The two times I beat the boss under normal circumstances I did it at 79 and 77. (Also at 55, but good god that was hard)

is such a thing even possible )_o

[Karsticles]

Stuff

You might want to cover that location spoiler.

[Smiles and Cries]

sorry I forgot people are still just now playing, like me here

[crimsonspider89]

What happened was I went and faced fortresses in the sword valley. And got AoE to death.

Why I am paranoid.

[Smiles and Cries]

^ that reminds me I need to return to that area left a lot unexplored

let me finish this... solved my problem moving on

[cooljeanius]

^ that reminds me I need to return to that area left a lot unexplored

Better do it quick, it gets closed off with no warning... In fact, considering where you are, if you still want to explore it, I'd turn around ASAP and make sure it's still open.

[Smiles and Cries]

thanks that would have sucked... any other areas about to close? spoiler tag

[crimsonspider89]

I am trying to do the areas with the timers the most. If everything is timed, you better do it quick.

[Karsticles]

That's the only thing that closes, I think.

[Smiles and Cries]

okay thanks guys taking down UM as I find them the tall guys too

[cooljeanius]

That's the only thing that closes, I think.

Without a warning, that is.

[chaosblade]

is such a thing even possible )_o

Only because of NG+ stuff. I don't think it can be done much lower than the level I did it at even with unlimited skill links and gems. Maybe 50. Maybe.

What happened was I went and faced fortresses in the sword valley. And got AoE to death. Why I am paranoid.

You're referring to those huge enemies? There are a few of those later on, including a UM that is quite possibly the most powerful enemy in the game, relative to it's level. Most people never kill it as far as I know, they end up beyond the point of no return for that area before they're strong enough. Like it's immensely powerful comrade in Mischievous Naberius (at Sword Valley), it's out of the way so you almost have to look for it to find it.

[crimsonspider89]

Yeah the giant mechons in sword valley. I have the UM version of it opened up already.

But right now I have a tank Riki ready to go.... except the 7th character constantly draws the aggro. I have two aggro up III equipped to Riki and still not drawing the aggro from her. And am running the speed booster with an aggro down III equipped as well.

What can I do to make Riki draw the aggro?

[Karsticles]

Yeah the giant mechons in sword valley. I have the UM version of it opened up already. But right now I have a tank Riki ready to go.... except the 7th character constantly draws the aggro. I have two aggro up III equipped to Riki and still not drawing the aggro from her. And am running the speed booster with an aggro down III equipped as well. What can I do to make Riki draw the aggro?

What are Riki's arts?
It's best to slap all of his DoTs on him and stack Ether stuff. Even then, he will really only tank well if you pull multiple enemies into the fight so he uses Poison and Blaze.
Even then, 7th is crazy good at pulling aggro just by autoattacking with an aura up. One thought is retooling 7th to tank, and just accept it - haha.

[crimsonspider89]

But I like speed 7th...... So much damage from auto attacks.

I already ran her as a tank.

And yeah, guess I can stack more ether on him and DoT all on him. As well as Riki is Angry. Love that move.

[olimpia84]

Hit the 10 hour mark, this game is fucking amazing.

[Smiles and Cries]

So much for trying all the UMs in that area that Mischievous ass keeps killing me its a long run to him each time until I remember Save and Load but he just keeps hammering me

so there is like 2 UMs I cannot kill here might as well move on or I'll level too much trying

[Karsticles]

Is ether crit % determined by your weapon? Thinking of a new Melia concept.

Also, are some armor sets just incomplete? I'm looking at the Google Doc for the best armor, and I see a set called Ledios. It lists a Body, Arm, and Waist piece...and that's it. What gives? And why did the document creator put a "lol" in the description?!

[Zornica]

Is ether crit % determined by your weapon? Thinking of a new Melia concept. Also, are some armor sets just incomplete? I'm looking at the Google Doc for the best armor, and I see a set called Ledios. It lists a Body, Arm, and Waist piece...and that's it. What gives? And why did the document creator put a "lol" in the description?!

the other parts are buyable in colony 6, but they dont have slots.
I got a set for sharla back than, looks pretty cool, but I wouldn't use it on any other char, because it just looks good, but due to the lack of slots, its only for show. the diferent parts are also pretty hard to get. one of them only drops from a quest unique, so you got one chance to get it. save in front of the chest.

got a fine m100 set for melia, looks great and is also one of the best sets.

[Karsticles]

the other parts are buyable in colony 6, but they dont have slots. I got a set for sharla back than, looks pretty cool, but I wouldn't use it on any other char, because it just looks good, but due to the lack of slots, its only for show. the diferent parts are also pretty hard to get. one of them only drops from a quest unique, so you got one chance to get it. save in front of the chest. got a fine m100 set for melia, looks great and is also one of the best sets.

Oh damn, it's not guaranteed? I'll make sure to save. Is anything else like that?

[Smiles and Cries]

I can't get pass these guys

so you can buy some of these armor where is the best place to buy high end stuff?

can someone help me find shulk's Arts books I need to up his power
I am at a level where I should be doing okay but I guess my Arts are not strong enough to Tank him up

[Karsticles]

I can't get pass these guys so you can buy some of these armor where is the best place to buy high end stuff? can someone help me find shulk's Arts books I need to up his power I am at a level where I should be doing okay but I guess my Arts are not strong enough to Tank him up

You shouldn't ever be buying high end stuff. You always get it by playing. Exception given for 7th at times.

Monado powers do not have books. They upgrade at appropriate periods in the storyline.

I think you likely need to reconsider your strategy. The big guys do big AoE damage. Using a team like Reyn/Riki/Sharla, possibly subbing Melia in there, is a good idea.

[chaosblade]

So much for trying all the UMs in that area that Mischievous ass keeps killing me its a long run to him each time until I remember Save and Load but he just keeps hammering me so there is like 2 UMs I cannot kill here might as well move on or I'll level too much trying

If you have 7th, you should also be able to get Monado Armor through a quest. Once you have that, go back and hit it up.

Use Shulk + Dunban + 7th.

Make sure Dunban has Spirit Breath and 7th has Healing Energy, both of those will remove the blaze damage from it's opening attack. I'd also recommend giving Dunban an anti-Mechon weapon so you're not relying on Enchant, because you'll need Monado arts just to keep yourself alive.

Shulk should be pumped up with Blaze resist, there is some unique armor that has a gem built in, and you should have a few gems for that by now. You can also add in any debuff resist you have as well.

Open up the battle with Monado Armor from a distance. This will allow Shulk to get it up before the opening flame attack. Dunban and 7th under AI should use their auras to get rid of the blaze debuff. Shulk will just eat the damage, but with Armor plus lots of Blaze Resist, the damage shouldn't be too bad.

From there, it's just a tough battle due to how powerful the monster is and the fact you can't topple it or anything to get the upper hand. Abuse chain attacks, and make sure to pay attention and use Light Heal. Titan Stamp is a bitch, use Armor to protect against it, that's about the best you can do.


If you don't have 7th/Armor... well, I guess what Karsticles. You'll need a crap load of healing just to stay alive beyond the opening attack.

But I like speed 7th...... So much damage from auto attacks. I already ran her as a tank. And yeah, guess I can stack more ether on him and DoT all on him. As well as Riki is Angry. Love that move.

7th should be able to tank even with light armor. Crazy defense, probably higher then Reyn's with heavy armor in the end.

[Karsticles]

Huh, I never had a problem with the blaze damage. The only thing that ever killed me was a stamp.

Does no one know how ether crit works?

[chaosblade]

Ether crit is the same as physical attacks.

And the blaze damage was the biggest problem I had with that fight until I had ways to deal with it. My characters would always die from it, aside from someone like Dunban who had an art to remove the debuff.

[Smiles and Cries]

I just want to move on the story getting frustrated

not going after Mischievous anymore but that strategy sounds great = if he dropped something great tell me I may think it worth it - Monado Armor hunt sounds like a good plan now though

I am at this one switch that should open something its in this little control perch and guarder by a bunch of mechs but going up there for an hour now just want to get passed it...

was Reyn/Riki/Sharla the answer to this?

my level is 58-59 party wide

[Karsticles]

The stomp AoE had a tendency to 1-shot my characters when I did it, haha.

There are many answers to everything. Chaosblade shared his answer, I shared mine. I'm sure his works just fine. The only notable thing he gives you, IIRC, is an affinity coin.

[Zornica]

I just want to move on the story getting frustrated not going after Mischievous anymore but that strategy sounds great = if he dropped something great tell me I may think it worth it - Monado Armor hunt sounds like a good plan now though I am at this one switch that should open something its in this little control perch and guarder by a bunch of mechs but going up there for an hour now just want to get passed it... was Reyn/Riki/Sharla the answer to this? my level is 58-59 party wide

if you have so much trouble with fights, just craft a bunch of agility gems, and equip them until you hit the limit.

[Smiles and Cries]

I need more have little agility gems what color are these guys?

I can't believe there is a historian quest at this crazy location what the hell is the lower floor for anyway with the purple liquid

[Karsticles]

I need more have little agility gems what color are these guys? I can't believe there is a historian quest at this crazy location what the hell is the lower floor for anyway with the purple liquid

Green.

[Smiles and Cries]

I raised shulk to 50 agility now to see who else I can get up to that...

I suck so bad at these gems

[Zornica]

I raised shulk to 50 agility now to see who else I can get up to that... I suck so bad at these gems

the limit for gems is 150. the more you got, the easier the game gets.
only to be sure: you did level up your arts, right? used skill links etc?
(use your coins to link agility to everyone, or skills that lower armor weight!)

edit: oh shit, I was thinking about ether.

[Karsticles]

the limit for gems is 150. the more you got, the easier the game gets. only to be sure: you did level up your arts, right? used skill links etc?

Agility caps at 50.

[Smiles and Cries]

I got passed that part hope I can keep this team together sheesh that was annoying... feels good to finally move on but still have like two floors up the outside gate opened up.

I could not find the quest for the Armor the person that should be giving it is not giving me any

damn so I'll move on, I hope

I will have to make sure everyone has Agility capped tired of dying

[Seik]

I just finished the game for the 3rd time since the PAL release.

Maaan, this game will never get old for me.

[crimsonspider89]

I beat one of them at level 55 with a power armor build of the 7th, Sharla on full heal, and Melia. Then died against the second one afterwards but he was down to a sliver. Just my debuff resistance didn't work once.

[Smiles and Cries]

Amazing view at the point I am just love the views

[Samyy]

Still stuck in Valak mountain trying to get a couple levels...
Feel like I hit a wall. Im above these UM levels but I guess my strategies suck. Gotta start trying to keep my chains going or something.

[chaosblade]

Still stuck in Valak mountain trying to get a couple levels... Feel like I hit a wall. Im above these UM levels but I guess my strategies suck. Gotta start trying to keep my chains going or something.

Arts are leveled up? Skill links? If you're killing the UMs equipment shouldn't be an issue. Focus on slotted stuff, even if it has slightly worse defense.

[Smiles and Cries]

biggest door ever O_o


THIS GAME <3

[Samyy]

Arts are leveled up? Skill links? If you're killing the UMs equipment shouldn't be an issue. Focus on slotted stuff, even if it has slightly worse defense.

yep and yep, im just gonna stop trying to level and keep looking for random quests and work on raising the affinity in the party. All my equipment is stuff with slots.

[Smiles and Cries]

I am not happy to be in yet a similar area

[cooljeanius]

So I decided to pick this game up again, and I found out that I still have some materials with blue exclamation marks on them, which is weird, because I thought I was already done with all of the quests in the game, as well as Colony 6 reconstruction. Is it possible to have items like this for which you never end up finding the quests you saw the vision of? Also, I was looking over the spreadsheet, and one thing it could use is a list of where to get all the arts manuals. I tried looking through the list of unique monsters, but that requires already knowing which unique monster drops which arts manual for that to be useful. Perhaps the "Arts" page could also include a column for where to get the art manuals for that art?

[Zornica]

So I decided to pick this game up again, and I found out that I still have some materials with blue exclamation marks on them, which is weird, because I thought I was already done with all of the quests in the game, as well as Colony 6 reconstruction. Is it possible to have items like this for which you never end up finding the quests you saw the vision of? Also, I was looking over the spreadsheet, and one thing it could use is a list of where to get all the arts manuals. I tried looking through the list of unique monsters, but that requires already knowing which unique monster drops which arts manual for that to be useful. Perhaps the "Arts" page could also include a column for where to get the art manuals for that art?

Those items could be from a quest where you can take a different path, with another item for example, so the alternativ wouldn't be unmarked afterwards. or maybe was for a times quest?. or maybe it's for a hidden quest. there are a few most people will never encounter, ever. like the one with the noppon wise man. Too bad you can't rewatch the vision, it would tell you who the quest giver was.

@art books: I am not sure about any english sites... until the west version of the game came out, I was long done with the game, and got used to this site:
http://xenobladedata.web.fc2.com/index.html
it's the most complete xenoblade wiki out there, and I found it easy to use, as long as you can count and have some patients.
this would be the art book sektion
http://xenobladedata.web.fc2.com/data/itm_book.html
It tells you who drops it and even gives you a map.
(there is a firefox addon called rikai chan that could help)
sry, thats the best site I know of.

If I knew how to create and host a homepage, I'd gladly try to translate the entire site.

[cooljeanius]

Too bad you can't rewatch the vision, it would tell you who the quest giver was.

Yeah, that's a feature that I've also been wishing this game had.

@art books: I am not sure about any english sites... until the west version of the game came out, I was long done with the game, and got used to this site: http://xenobladedata.web.fc2.com/index.html it's the most complete xenoblade wiki out there, and I found it easy to use, as long as you can count and have some patients. this would be the art book sektion http://xenobladedata.web.fc2.com/data/itm_book.html It tells you who drops it and even gives you a map. (there is a firefox addon called rikai chan that could help) sry, thats the best site I know of. If I knew how to create and host a homepage, I'd gladly try to translate the entire site.

Hm, Google Translate doesn't seem to be working on it... If whoever owns the spreadsheet wanted to give you write permissions for it, you could just copy the info there instead of making a new webpage.

Edit: nvm about Google Translate not working, that was only one of the pages that it failed on. It works on the art manuals page at least (somewhat).