Yeef
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(08-23-2012, 03:08 AM)

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#6451

I had upgraded SourceMod last night and, apparently, another patch had broken it again. I updated it again just now and all the crashes are gone.
NihonTiger90
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(08-23-2012, 03:20 AM)

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#6452

Originally Posted by Snacks the sober sea lion: View Post
Does anyone know what they're (you persons) doing for the next highlander season?
Can I wear my UGC 1st place medal from Season 3? If so, I will join the fight.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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(08-23-2012, 03:49 AM)

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#6453

Depends on if my proposal to use the team uniform of Deus Specs, Black/ White Bill's Hat, and earbuds and change the name to K$RF goes through, in which case you won't have a misc slot left.

Is there anybody who actually wants to be in charge of another highlander team, or do we just have to slowly and painfully organize it here and in Steam chat? How many people should we have (not 18)?

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It turns out scout's legs actually just go in circles.
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SteveWinwood
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(08-23-2012, 04:20 AM)

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#6454

rip crazy legs
Proven
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(08-23-2012, 05:59 AM)

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#6455

Oh yeah, I was one of many people that got a Portal 2 -75% off coupon for some unknown reason that lasts until August 30th. TF2 GAF gets first dibs. Just PM me.
Soka
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(08-23-2012, 12:39 PM)

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#6456

Originally Posted by Proven: View Post
Oh yeah, I was one of many people that got a Portal 2 -75% off coupon for some unknown reason that lasts until August 30th. TF2 GAF gets first dibs. Just PM me.
I also have one if someone wants it. PM me.
Kuro Madoushi
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(08-23-2012, 03:53 PM)

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#6457

Originally Posted by Proven: View Post
Oh yeah, I was one of many people that got a Portal 2 -75% off coupon for some unknown reason that lasts until August 30th. TF2 GAF gets first dibs. Just PM me.
Me as well. Pm if you anyone wants.

Damn you douchewelder! Lucky I'm out of practice and gw2 is coming out. Cloudius, you must avenge me!
Cloudius12
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(08-23-2012, 04:52 PM)

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#6458

Originally Posted by Kuro Madoushi: View Post
Me as well. Pm if you anyone wants.

Damn you douchewelder! Lucky I'm out of practice and gw2 is coming out. Cloudius, you must avenge me!
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:)
ExMachina
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(08-23-2012, 08:02 PM)

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#6459

Friendly reminder: The biggest TF2 LAN - Multiplay Insomnia i46 - is tomorrow! NA teams Classic Mixup and Leviathan Gaming are flying over to England to compete against Europe's best, so it'll definitely be an exciting event to watch.

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>> STREAM: http://vanillatv.org/

The stream and most coverage will be provided by VanillaTF2.org. Coverage can be found on TeamFortress.tv and eXtelevision as well.
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Proven
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(08-23-2012, 08:07 PM)

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#6460

BUT TOMORROW IS GUILD WARS 2!
Dreams-Visions
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(08-23-2012, 08:54 PM)

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#6461

Gais.

GAIS.

If you have a half-way decent video card, you need to do this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=164

I'm blown away right now.
Blizzard
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(08-23-2012, 09:02 PM)

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#6462

Originally Posted by Dreams-Visions: View Post
Gais.

GAIS.

If you have a half-way decent video card, you need to do this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=164

I'm blown away right now.
Whoa, isn't using modified DLLs in a VAC-protected game like the #1 thing you're not supposed to do? I know it's all vague and they don't want to tell you what triggers it, but I thought custom DLLs were one of the explicitly called-out things (and if I recall correctly there was once upon a time a HL2 mod that got people VAC banned because of the DLLs it included).
Professor Beef
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(08-23-2012, 09:04 PM)

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#6463

Clearly dreams is trying to get everyone banned so he can have all the hats to himself!
ZekeThePlumber
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(08-23-2012, 09:24 PM)

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#6464

I have two mann up missions left to finish if anyone is still interested in doing them sometime tonight?
Kuro Madoushi
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(08-23-2012, 09:25 PM)

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#6465

Originally Posted by Cloudius12: View Post
:)
D:

lemme know when you're on so I can 5 skull that too....ONLY ONE MORE FUCKING MAP!
Proven
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(08-23-2012, 09:26 PM)

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#6466

Originally Posted by ZekeThePlumber: View Post
I have two mann up missions left to finish if anyone is still interested in doing them sometime tonight?
I might be available. Friends are trying to make me play Vindictus, so I'll get back to you.
ExMachina
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(08-23-2012, 09:26 PM)

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#6467

Originally Posted by Proven: View Post
BUT TOMORROW IS GUILD WARS 2!
L2 Dual Monitor! :P

Originally Posted by ZekeThePlumber: View Post
I have two mann up missions left to finish if anyone is still interested in doing them sometime tonight?
*raises hand* I still need those same 2 missions as well.
Alienups
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(08-23-2012, 09:28 PM)

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#6468

Originally Posted by ExMachina: View Post
Friendly reminder: The biggest TF2 LAN - Multiplay Insomnia i46 - is tomorrow! NA teams Classic Mixup and Leviathan Gaming are flying over to England to compete against Europe's best, so it'll definitely be an exciting event to watch.



>> STREAM: http://vanillatv.org/

The stream and most coverage will be provided by VanillaTF2.org. Coverage can be found on TeamFortress.tv and eXtelevision as well.
I'm really exited. Gonna watch as much as possible.

Zeke i'm up for it
DJ Crimson
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(08-23-2012, 09:36 PM)

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#6469

Originally Posted by ZekeThePlumber: View Post
I have two mann up missions left to finish if anyone is still interested in doing them sometime tonight?
Which levels do you still need to do?
Cloudius12
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(08-23-2012, 09:38 PM)

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#6470

Originally Posted by ZekeThePlumber: View Post
I have two mann up missions left to finish if anyone is still interested in doing them sometime tonight?
I'm available at around 8:30 pm est if interested and need more people.
thefro
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(08-23-2012, 09:45 PM)
#6471

I can play Mann Up tonight... haven't beaten any of the missions yet (had a better group of randoms yesterday but we only got to Round 5 since they never got the money, nor gave a crap where the bomb was at).
Dreams-Visions
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(08-23-2012, 09:54 PM)

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#6472

Originally Posted by Blizzard: View Post
Whoa, isn't using modified DLLs in a VAC-protected game like the #1 thing you're not supposed to do? I know it's all vague and they don't want to tell you what triggers it, but I thought custom DLLs were one of the explicitly called-out things (and if I recall correctly there was once upon a time a HL2 mod that got people VAC banned because of the DLLs it included).
Oh?

I'll be sure to inform Boltof then. Sure is pretty though. :-(
Blizzard
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(08-23-2012, 10:08 PM)

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#6473

Originally Posted by Dreams-Visions: View Post
Oh?

I'll be sure to inform Boltof then. Sure is pretty though. :-(
Well I don't know for sure, but the VAC FAQ says:

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The Valve Anti-Cheat system is enabled for servers displaying the Secured shield logo. Using custom skins, sounds or maps and playing multi-player mods which do not modify core .EXE and .DLL files will not result in a VAC ban
I don't know much about d3d9.dll specifically, but if you are able to hijack Direct3D calls to do nice anti-aliasing, I would not at all be surprised if you could hijack Direct3D calls to say, render walls transparent. :P
Rickenslacker
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(08-23-2012, 10:12 PM)

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#6474

Some people go nutty for AA, I just turn it off. I like me jaggies, it's how I learnsed to look at polygons in games. :V
HoosTrax
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(08-23-2012, 10:18 PM)

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#6475

Originally Posted by Blizzard: View Post
I don't know much about d3d9.dll specifically, but if you are able to hijack Direct3D calls to do nice anti-aliasing, I would not at all be surprised if you could hijack Direct3D calls to say, render walls transparent. :P
I wonder what the functional difference is with programs like FRAPS, EVGA Precision, MSI Afterburner etc, that overwrite a portion of the screen buffer to display FPS and temperature information. (Those don't cause issues with VAC)
Blizzard
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(08-23-2012, 10:20 PM)

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Originally Posted by HoosTrax: View Post
I wonder what the functional difference is with programs like FRAPS, EVGA Precision, MSI Afterburner etc, that overwrite a portion of the screen buffer to display FPS and temperature information. (Those don't cause issues with VAC)
Well adding something extra onto the screen isn't as bad as taking something away (like a wallhack). As for why they don't get flagged, I think VAC is supposed to check for "known" hacks, which is why it is supposed to be infallible and you can't appeal or whatever. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it did a check for a known good version of the game .exe and .dll files to make sure they haven't been modified (Fraps etc. wouldn't modify these).
HoosTrax
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(08-23-2012, 11:55 PM)

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#6477

Originally Posted by Blizzard: View Post
Well adding something extra onto the screen isn't as bad as taking something away (like a wallhack). As for why they don't get flagged, I think VAC is supposed to check for "known" hacks, which is why it is supposed to be infallible and you can't appeal or whatever. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it did a check for a known good version of the game .exe and .dll files to make sure they haven't been modified (Fraps etc. wouldn't modify these).
That kind of suggests that VAC wouldn't be useful against external programs that draw a crosshair to the screen buffer in the same way FRAPS does. For example for the TF2 sniper when he's not zoomed in (in the old days before this was changed), or for weapons that use iron sights.
SteveWinwood
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(08-24-2012, 12:08 AM)

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#6478

what is this nerd talk
Rickenslacker
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(08-24-2012, 12:10 AM)

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#6479

Originally Posted by HoosTrax: View Post
That kind of suggests that VAC wouldn't be useful against external programs that draw a crosshair to the screen buffer in the same way FRAPS does. For example for the TF2 sniper when he's not zoomed in (in the old days before this was changed), or for weapons that use iron sights.
You can plop a crosshair font in the center of your screen through HUD editing that pure doesn't touch, it's how I get a two tone Quake 3 styled + crosshair. I imagine you could do something like that in other Source games as well.
Alienups
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(08-24-2012, 12:46 AM)

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#6480

Are we going to mann up or what ?
Forkball
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(08-24-2012, 01:08 AM)

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#6481

No one wants to play with me because I don't have any more tickets. This is the kind of stuff Bane was talking about.
Blizzard
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(08-24-2012, 01:12 AM)

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#6482

Originally Posted by Forkball: View Post
No one wants to play with me because I don't have any more tickets. This is the kind of stuff Bane was talking about.
See, I said the same thing! But everyone was all Naww Blizzard, We Will Play With You Eventually.
ZekeThePlumber
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(08-24-2012, 01:13 AM)

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#6483

Originally Posted by Forkball: View Post
No one wants to play with me because I don't have any more tickets. This is the kind of stuff Bane was talking about.
Quite frankly, 99 cents is a bargain for the benefits and perks of my friendship. <3
Alienups
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(08-24-2012, 01:14 AM)

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#6484

Happy 16th birthday Team Fortress
Forkball
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(08-24-2012, 01:30 AM)

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#6485

Originally Posted by ZekeThePlumber: View Post
Quite frankly, 99 cents is a bargain for the benefits and perks of my friendship. <3
Yeah but you have to put in $5 no matter what. That's how they get ya!
Smithy C
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(08-24-2012, 01:40 AM)

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#6486

Yesssssss Team Fortress birthday noisemaker!
Kuro Madoushi
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(08-24-2012, 02:09 AM)

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#6487

Originally Posted by SteveWinwood: View Post
what is this nerd talk
Shaddap, nerd!
ExMachina
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(08-24-2012, 03:16 AM)

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#6488

Damn you, Valve servers! :( I thought I'd become a Mann tonight...

But good job, guys - the Mannworks Endurance mission wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be.
thefro
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(08-24-2012, 03:26 AM)
#6489

Originally Posted by ExMachina: View Post
Damn you, Valve servers! :( I thought I'd become a Mann tonight...

But good job, guys - the Mannworks Endurance mission wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be.
Snacks as Scout = basically using a cheat code
ZekeThePlumber
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(08-24-2012, 03:36 AM)

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#6490

A full tour and 3 surplus tickets and I didn't even get a hat! And then it gives me the silver botkiller knife at the end to rub it in!
Cloudius12
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(08-24-2012, 03:53 AM)

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#6491

sorry guys my net went to shit town.
Proven
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(08-24-2012, 04:48 AM)

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#6492

Got in a bad mood, and wasn't available for play. My bad.

Guild Wars 2 in ~24 hours.
For the epic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJioGbsK2XY
For the uninitiated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6XccPXb7Do
ZekeThePlumber
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(08-24-2012, 06:28 AM)

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#6493

Originally Posted by Proven: View Post
Got in a bad mood, and wasn't available for play. My bad.

Guild Wars 2 in ~24 hours.
For the epic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJioGbsK2XY
For the uninitiated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6XccPXb7Do
Get that crap out of here, that isn't related to Halo at all.
Bo
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(08-24-2012, 06:37 AM)

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#6494

Originally Posted by Blizzard: View Post
Whoa, isn't using modified DLLs in a VAC-protected game like the #1 thing you're not supposed to do? I know it's all vague and they don't want to tell you what triggers it, but I thought custom DLLs were one of the explicitly called-out things (and if I recall correctly there was once upon a time a HL2 mod that got people VAC banned because of the DLLs it included).
Originally Posted by Blizzard: View Post
Well I don't know for sure, but the VAC FAQ says:

I don't know much about d3d9.dll specifically, but if you are able to hijack Direct3D calls to do nice anti-aliasing, I would not at all be surprised if you could hijack Direct3D calls to say, render walls transparent. :P
While I don't have a solid answer on this, I can say the DLLs provided haven't overwritten any of the game's own afaik, and I haven't had to change anything about a game's .exe to gain the SMAA functionality.

Oh, and I think you may be thinking of HL1. HL2 mods are distributed with custom DLLs with official blessing (further, source code for the HL2 + Eps is granted with the Mod tool so that you may implement custom code and can compile your own), though in technical terms they're closer to being insular expansions.

Even so, probably best to play it safe and by ear for now.

This fellow seems to have been running TXAA & SMAA injection for nearly a year now with no VAC bans: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...&postcount=365 (I've yet to see any post on any board complain about being banned for SMAA injection within the past year, looked and nada). A grey area to be sure, but all that I've got to go on to indicate a negative outcome from this is message board speculation.
Last edited by Bo; 08-24-2012 at 07:36 AM.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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(08-24-2012, 07:41 AM)

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#6495

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGrAeorVz9o

Birthday party for TF2.
Started with the BLU heavy, and soon the whole server was overtaken. Unfortunately, there weren't even 10 people playing at the time.
SteveWinwood
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(08-24-2012, 11:57 AM)

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#6496

If mmos weren't the worst thing to ever happen to video games, guild wars 2 would look okay.

Also mannworks endurance was easy peasy.
Proven
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(08-24-2012, 02:23 PM)

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#6497

Originally Posted by Snacks the sober sea lion: View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGrAeorVz9o

Birthday party for TF2.
Started with the BLU heavy, and soon the whole server was overtaken. Unfortunately, there weren't even 10 people playing at the time.
Looking good, lol.

Oh hey, I just saw this: http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=8699
Dreams-Visions
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(08-24-2012, 02:36 PM)

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#6498

Originally Posted by Botolf: View Post
While I don't have a solid answer on this, I can say the DLLs provided haven't overwritten any of the game's own afaik, and I haven't had to change anything about a game's .exe to gain the SMAA functionality.

Oh, and I think you may be thinking of HL1. HL2 mods are distributed with custom DLLs with official blessing (further, source code for the HL2 + Eps is granted with the Mod tool so that you may implement custom code and can compile your own), though in technical terms they're closer to being insular expansions.

Even so, probably best to play it safe and by ear for now.

This fellow seems to have been running TXAA & SMAA injection for nearly a year now with no VAC bans: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...&postcount=365 (I've yet to see any post on any board complain about being banned for SMAA injection within the past year, looked and nada). A grey area to be sure, but all that I've got to go on to indicate a negative outcome from this is message board speculation.
Thanks for looking into this. It looks really great, so I may keep it on.
Shadow Hog
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(08-24-2012, 03:44 PM)

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#6499

I tried MvM for the first time last night. Man, that's deceptively hard.

Did one run through Manouvers on Mannworks and a few attempts at Crash Course in Coaltown that fell apart during this round with one tank, a crapload of Scouts, and a few Spies. Didn't help that my team wasn't making the hugest effort to get all the cash in earlier rounds, so I was mildly hurting.

Upgrading the Beggar's Bazooka was great advice, though, so thanks, whoever it was in this topic that suggested doing that. Shame it didn't help me win, much. Losing two people after failing that round a couple of times didn't help matters... We never did finish it.
Dreams-Visions
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(08-24-2012, 03:58 PM)

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#6500

I'm still not feeling the beggars. at all. you guys like it?