[Zomba13]

Uh, isn't the picture frame in the logo slanted in the wrong direction compared to every other metro logo?

o.o Maybe that's why I don't mind that one compared to the other ones. The Windows 8 logo bothers me but the paint one doesn't and I think it's the angle of the logo window thing.

[Jibbed]

eurgh.

EURGH.

EEEUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARHGHHHGHH.

[Tigel]

I think that's a good looking logo honestly.

[dragonelite]

The bitmap format is very simple and doesn't have any compression. You have a few bytes for header data, then a list of colours used, and then the pixel data. Each pixel is represented by an index in the colour table; so the first pixel might be represented by "colour #1", and then in the colour table, colour #1 is red. Imagine that pixel #2 is colour #72. When you open a bitmap in Notepad, it will assume that the data is ASCII. It reads through all of the binary data in the file trying to interpret it as letters. When it reads the portion of the file that would have been pixel #2, instead of mapping it to colour #72, it reads the colour index as ASCII character #72, which is "H". This is a simplification because I don't know enough about the Bitmap format to know exactly how each pixel data is stored, or if his spoofing method is using ASCII or Unicode, etc. but it's the gist of it. What's more, every single piece of code that can be written on a computer can be represented as an image like this, just as every piece of writing ever (Shakespeare, Dostoyevsky, the Bible, your term paper) can be represented as a piece of music or an image or another piece of writing, or your DNA could be a painting or code or music or a video game or... Everything can be represented as anything. All you need is a function that translates one representation to another. If you're interested in how information can be stored or converted or the essential connectness of all things, consider reading Godel, Escher, Bach; one of the most important Math/Computer Science/Art/Music/Information/Philosophy books written in the last 50 years. It really is illuminating. The climax of the book has Hofstadter applying the concepts he's introduced to cognition itself--comparing a colony of ants to the human brain by arguing that each ant represents one neuron firing, and the colony the broader synaptic passages. Heavy stuff.

Pretty much this. Only i learned about data representation with tcp/ip socket programming in java. And a lot from Charles Petzold "Code".

[Akito]

The bitmap format is very simple and doesn't have any compression. You have a few bytes for header data, then a list of colours used, and then the pixel data. Each pixel is represented by an index in the colour table; so the first pixel might be represented by "colour #1", and then in the colour table, colour #1 is red. Imagine that pixel #2 is colour #72. When you open a bitmap in Notepad, it will assume that the data is ASCII. It reads through all of the binary data in the file trying to interpret it as letters. When it reads the portion of the file that would have been pixel #2, instead of mapping it to colour #72, it reads the colour index as ASCII character #72, which is "H". This is a simplification because I don't know enough about the Bitmap format to know exactly how each pixel data is stored, or if his spoofing method is using ASCII or Unicode, etc. but it's the gist of it. What's more, every single piece of code that can be written on a computer can be represented as an image like this, just as every piece of writing ever (Shakespeare, Dostoyevsky, the Bible, your term paper) can be represented as a piece of music or an image or another piece of writing, or your DNA could be a painting or code or music or a video game or... Everything can be represented as anything. All you need is a function that translates one representation to another. If you're interested in how information can be stored or converted or the essential connectness of all things, consider reading Godel, Escher, Bach; one of the most important Math/Computer Science/Art/Music/Information/Philosophy books written in the last 50 years. It really is illuminating. The climax of the book has Hofstadter applying the concepts he's introduced to cognition itself--comparing a colony of ants to the human brain by arguing that each ant represents one neuron firing, and the colony the broader synaptic passages. Heavy stuff.

I had a general idea about how it might work but it still blew my mind, thanks for the detailed explanations though. It's a fascinating concept for sure, will look into the book.

[R2D4]

Straight out of "Baby's First Windows" Thanks Windows 8.

[Tuck]

Wait, what? That was unexpected. Is it mainly for touch?

Well, it is a metro app...

[JaggedSac]

I think that's a good looking logo honestly.

Same, colors aren't the best but it is a decent logo.

[Pctx]

[Fushin]

Flawless.

[Metroid Hunter]

LOL

[SnakeswithLasers]

At least something good came of the logo.

[Kinyou]

I'll never forgive microsoft for changing the windows movie maker.

Why fix something that isn't broke

[Windu]

Windows 8 Paint:

Looks like Paint to me.

[Man]

*instant burst laughter*

[Pctx]

I think what's funny is that Microsoft is really trying hard to re-brand some of the more mundane things about Windows and the desperation is depressing.

[Chuckl3s]

Thanks for the explanation Stump! I knew it had to do with ASCII but I couldn't really get a grasped on it.

[Sentry]

Welcome to the Metro-ized "Fresh Paint". Available now in the Windows 8 App Store.

In association with McDonalds?

Yuck.

[Kazerei]

Is this what the interface will look like? I can't tell wtf is going on.

[Pepto]

First the bailouts and now this? Thanks Obama!

[show me your skeleton]

I think what's funny is that Microsoft is really trying hard to re-brand some of the more mundane things about Windows and the desperation is depressing.

this is a standalone app, it's not really a rebranding.

[Pctx]

this is a standalone app, it's not really a rebranding.

So this doesn't replace paint in Windows 8?

[Zaptruder]

Is this what the interface will look like? I can't tell wtf is going on.

It looks pretty damn intuitive to me. It's not a high end photoshop or even painter package.

But it looks like it simulates paint and painting tools, giving you multiple brushes and marking tools that are immediately accessible in your palette, as well as a paint mixer.

All that at the cost of a large chunk of your screen space dedicated to your palette and tools. If those can slide out of the way easily, and this thing supports layers, then it might actually be an incredibly useful art tool.

[Teknopathetic]

Yeah, this looks more like they're doing something similar to ArtRage, not really replacing Paint.

[show me your skeleton]

So this doesn't replace paint in Windows 8?

nope, you get the normal paint in windows 8, or at least the version currently available for developers, tech-reviewers etc. it might get replaced by this in the consumer version but i doubt it, as i assume there's nothing changed between now & october.

[JordanKZ]

Windows 7 Paint is literally the best 'simple' client out there. This is completely unnecessary and the GUI looks atrocious.

[radioheadrule83]

The interface looks great, if paint mixing and textures like that are possible I'd love to play with this!

and the logo looks a lot better in the actual program. Less hideous colours.

[kottila]

Since I never really found a reason to use something so overkill - photoshop - for my everyday use, I now have grown used to paint.net! I like and use it a lot in my scientific stuff!

I've used paint more than photoshop in my thesis. So much easier and faster when you just want do to simple stuff.

[Bomber Bob]

I miss paintbrush

[radioheadrule83]

I miss paintbrush

I miss Deluxe Paint (Amiga). Bring it back!

[mrklaw]

I miss Deluxe Paint (Amiga). Bring it back!

I used to spend all my time making animations using the colour cycling.

[yn-neko hates a cat]

I miss Deluxe Paint (Amiga). Bring it back!

It's all about Brilliance! I still spent more time with DPaint though.

EDIT: Does anyone remember that one 90's shareware DOS paint program that had a picture of a marble panther on a marble next to marble columns. I loved that so hard :(

[Teknopathetic]

"The interface looks great, if paint mixing and textures like that are possible I'd love to play with this!"


Just took it for a spin, you can mix paint in the top right (where you see the color palette with the big canvas space above them). The texture comes from them simulating canvas/paper and they have a dozen different canvas/paper textures.

[radioheadrule83]

"The interface looks great, if paint mixing and textures like that are possible I'd love to play with this!" Just took it for a spin, you can mix paint in the top right (where you see the color palette with the big canvas space above them). The texture comes from them simulating canvas/paper and they have a dozen different canvas/paper textures.

Sounds nice! More like this please Microsoft - I'll buy a Win8 tablet / surface!

[EVOL 100%]

The logo looks okay, but JESUS CHRIST those colors.

[6.8]

Welcome to the Metro-ized "Fresh Paint". Available now in the Windows 8 App Store.

Welcome back, best Windows color scheme ever:

[Danielsan]

Welcome back, best Windows color scheme ever: [IMG]http://codinghorror.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0120a86d4df2970b-pi[IMG]

Gaahhh! My eyes!

[acheron_xl]

Don't think the logo is that bad, considering the context. It's a clever variant of a shitty logo.

[abusori]

Logo validated.

[ReBurn]

I find the logo aesthetically pleasing. Just to spite you all.

[yn-neko hates a cat]

Anyone know if Fractal Design Painter is still around? Last I heard, they were bought by Corel? Hell... is Corel still around? I haven't done graphic design in over 9 years :( But I remember loving they're vector controls over anything Illustraitor could do.

I revisited one of their products called Corel Designer(???) about 5 years ago for a vector schematic I had to put together for work and it was still good.

[coolcole93]

Amazing.

Why the heck didn't use the white background for the logo? It looks awful in yellow, but the app itself looks good, I'll give it a try but honestly I only used paint to crop screenshots, then I started to use OneNote and haven't looked back

Snipping Tool is where it's at son.

[Polk]

Why would anyone touch something with warning that paint is fresh?

[Messofanego]

Welcome back, best Windows color scheme ever:

I was eating some food, and almost choked on it.

[Yottamole]

Anyone know if Fractal Design Painter is still around? Last I heard, they were bought by Corel? Hell... is Corel still around? I haven't done graphic design in over 9 years :( But I remember loving they're vector controls over anything Illustraitor could do.

Painter is on version 12 now:
http://www.corel.com/corel/product/i...id=prod4030123

[Sir Fragula]

Is this what the interface will look like? I can't tell wtf is going on.

Really?

1) Bunch of brushes in the top centre which are clearly used to select brush type.
2) Paint wheel in the top right which is clearly used to select brush colour.
3) Basic application buttons in the bottom row and top right.

How can you not instinctively know what every single part of that interface does?

[Izick]

A picture frame?

WORST LOGO EVER MADE. OH MY GOD WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?

Really? It's just a fucking picture frame logo.

[Metroid Hunter]

So this doesn't replace paint in Windows 8?

The Paint is only available in Desktop mode for Intel-Windows. Arm Windows will only have this.

[Glowingmonx]

I guess they changed the logo because I still have this logo showing on my pc



It's a pretty cool app but it shouldn't replace paint.

[Yoshiya]

I laughed for a long time.