[AniHawk]

THEN WHY WASN'T THERE A SCENE OF HER BUYING IT FROM GOODWILL

she stole it from bruce

[Schweini]

she stole it from bruce

FULL CIRCLE

[animlboogy]

Thanks guys I guess Nolan is good at this after all, I hope those scenes show up in the extended cut.

If I ever make a Batman film, you better be sure I will show you Batman taking a shit after he eats, and exactly how he does it in full costume. My Batman will MAKE SENSE.

[Guzim]

she stole it from bruce

I didn't notice that in the safe :o

[evil solrac v3.0]

I always do. I do improv and I'm a designer so I'm a very observant person. For instance, did anyone notice in BB that the same cop that tries to stop Batman on the roof is the same cop who asks for a description of the tumbler in the tunnel below minutes later? No really, it's hard for me not to notice such things especially leaps in logic. I'm able to ignore them if the situation is cool enough to distract me.

I'm a designer too and I notice lots of things but I always tell my brain it's time to absorb the story and either like it or not.

[effzee]

I'm a designer too and I notice lots of things but I always tell my brain it's time to absorb the story and either like it or not.

These are the things I only notice if they are just out of this world annoying or if GAF makes a habit of talking about them.

To some degree if you look at any blockbuster movie and dissect it enough it falls apart.

[animlboogy]

These are the things I only notice if they are just out of this world annoying or if GAF makes a habit of talking about them. To some degree if you look at any blockbuster movie and dissect it enough it falls apart.

You can do it with almost any movie. Continuity isn't easy.

At some point, if it isn't so blindingly obvious that it just ruins the movie, you need to just focus on the themes and the story.

And it also helps to remind yourself that not every little thing needs to be explained; you could just as easily be complaining that a film is slow and boring because it lingers on the details far too much.

I didn't need to see how Bruce got home from the prison. He's Batman. Let's leave it at that and let the movie keep moving forward. Remember when we all complained about the Hong Kong scene in TDK?

[AdrianWerner]

Does a movie have to be kind of boring at times to be considered "good" like TDKR achieves constantly.

I didn't find any scenes in TDKR truly boring. Avengers though..unless they were fighting or showing humor..boring. Maybe because the characters felt flat like hell, so watching them do anything besides throw funny lines or kicking ass was pretty damn boring.
I like mindless action, but I like when it's backed up by some sort of emotion. Raid achieved that, Avengers didn't.

[.GqueB.]

He wouldn't order dessert! NOLAN DOESN'T GET BATMAN! And this might be controversial, elitist, and come across as rude but I just don't get or don't understand how people like the original Burton Batman movie over any of the three Nolan movies. First of all as movies alone, Nolan's 3 Batman movies are simply better. I don't even mean IMO. Everything about them is better. The direction, the acting, the action, the music, and the plot. Then there is the matter than that Nolan nailed Bruce/Batman 100 times better and closer to the comics. Oh he also spearheaded the campaign, along with Raimi, Singer, and few others, to bring comics books back to life and in a quality manner. I feel like most of these people who constantly keep bringing up these comparisons and making threads about it haven't watched Batman in a good 10 years or so. I won't even touch Returns or the two Schumaker disasters. At least Burton tried. Still I don't get it. Critically and commercially Nolan's Batman is superior. And yet I find tons of people on GAF somehow wishing for a return to that style or sense of fun. I hope to god WB isn't dumb enough to ruin Batman again. They can't go in the exact same direction as Nolan again but they don't have to revert back.

There are elements of both that I actually enjoyed. Overall, and I'm simplifying the hell out of this, Burtons Batman simply looked better. The Batmobile was amazing, Gotham was fun to look at, the Batcave... well that isn't a fair comparison. I don't know. Nolan's world looked bland as shit sometimes and not very interesting visually outside of the narrows in begins. There really wasn't much to it.

The acting is a bit hard to compare since they were definitely going for different styles. I got more of a Dick Tracey vibe in the Burton films.

But I will disagree big time that Nolan nailed Batman. The suit was far superior and the fighting style was better but fucking hell his Batman was god awful otherwise. The voice was terrible, he kept getting his ass kicked, he didn't have the same fear factor that Burtons Batman did, and he never really seemed to have everything figured out (outside of a few moments). Even the mob guy said the baddies were wise to his act and weren't taking him very seriously. How long was he Batman up until that point? Under a year? And they were already laughing at him? He was a joke. I really didn't like his take on Batman. He came off as a bumbling buffoon way too often. His Bruce was pretty great though but that was just Bale being Bale.

Vastly preferred Nolans take on the world outside of Batman though. His secondary characters were all handled beautifully. Alfred, Gordon, BLAKE, Harvey. All handled very well. They were just kind of "there" in the Burton films. Gordon was just some fat guy.

I didn't find any scenes in TDKR truly boring. Avengers though..unless they were fighting or showing humor..boring. Maybe because the characters felt flat like hell, so watching them do anything besides throw funny lines or kicking ass was pretty damn boring. I like mindless action, but I like when it's backed up by some sort of emotion. Raid achieved that, Avengers didn't.

But they were always fighting or showing humor.

[AdrianWerner]

But they were always fighting or showing humor.

Not really, especially since Stark was the only one actually funny in most of his scenes.

[Mariolee]

I always do. I do improv and I'm a designer so I'm a very observant person. For instance, did anyone notice in BB that the same cop that tries to stop Batman on the roof is the same cop who asks for a description of the tumbler in the tunnel below minutes later? No really, it's hard for me not to notice such things especially leaps in logic. I'm able to ignore them if the situation is cool enough to distract me.

No way. This may have ruined that scene a bit for me. :(

[.GqueB.]

Not really, especially since Stark was the only one actually funny in most of his scenes.

We exist in two different realities. Continuing this conversation would be pointless. Let's not waste each others time

No way. This may have ruined that scene a bit for me. :(

Pretend they were twins.

[EliteArtist]

No way. This may have ruined that scene a bit for me. :(

Just keep telling yourself they're brothers who work in the same town and share a bond thicker than Bane's torso itself.

[.GqueB.]

Just keep telling yourself they're brothers who work in the same town and share a bond thicker than Bane's torso itself.

YOU BACK OFF!!!

[Dany M]

What was special and creative about TDKR?

It isn't a derivative superhero film nor your regular summer blockbuster.

[Guzim]

No way. This may have ruined that scene a bit for me. :(

Are you watching closely?

[EliteArtist]

YOU BACK OFF!!!

WHY CANT WE CONSOLE HIM TOGETHER!!

[evil solrac v3.0]

There are elements of both that I actually enjoyed. Overall, and I'm simplifying the hell out of this, Burtons Batman simply looked better. The Batmobile was amazing, Gotham was fun to look at, the Batcave... well that isn't a fair comparison. I don't know. Nolan's world looked bland as shit sometimes and not very interesting visually outside of the narrows in begins. There really wasn't much to it. The acting is a bit hard to compare since they were definitely going for different styles. I got more of a Dick Tracey vibe in the Burton films. But I will disagree big time that Nolan nailed Batman. The suit was far superior and the fighting style was better but fucking hell his Batman was god awful otherwise. The voice was terrible, he kept getting his ass kicked, he didn't have the same fear factor that Burtons Batman did, and he never really seemed to have everything figured out (outside of a few moments). Even the mob guy said the baddies were wise to his act and weren't taking him very seriously. How long was he Batman up until that point? Under a year? And they were already laughing at him? He was a joke. I really didn't like his take on Batman. He came off as a bumbling buffoon way too often. His Bruce was pretty great though but that was just Bale being Bale. Vastly preferred Nolans take on the world outside of Batman though. His secondary characters were all handled beautifully. Alfred, Gordon, BLAKE, Harvey. All handled very well. They were just kind of "there" in the Burton films. Gordon was just some fat guy. But they were always fighting or showing humor.

the mob was petrified of Batman, did you not see TDK?! people didn't want to do business in Gotham, they were desperate and turned to the Joker for help.
Burton's Batman had him get beta up and shot! and you had guys fighting him on equal footing, and they took apart his Batmobile via remote control by the fucking Penguin! since when was the Penguin an engineering genius?! some security system there.

[jaxword]

What was special and creative about TDKR?

[DMczaf]

[.GqueB.]

the mob was petrified of Batman, did you not see TDK?! people didn't want to do business in Gotham, they were desperate and turned to the Joker for help. Burton's Batman had him get beta up and shot! and you had guys fighting him on equal footing, and they took apart his Batmobile via remote control by the fucking Penguin! since when was the Penguin an engineering genius?! some security system there.

The part I'm referring to happened after they went to the joker for help. He said it pretty straight out... Even after getting tossed from a fire escape.

Pfft! He got shot on purpose to heighten the fear.

[DMczaf]

I just realized Vince's eyes align with Catwoman's butt.

[Moaradin]

I just realized Vince's eyes align with Catwoman's butt.

So is Batman's.

[wetwired]

the mob was petrified of Batman, did you not see TDK?! people didn't want to do business in Gotham, they were desperate and turned to the Joker for help. Burton's Batman had him get beta up and shot! and you had guys fighting him on equal footing, and they took apart his Batmobile via remote control by the fucking Penguin! since when was the Penguin an engineering genius?! some security system there.

Yeah one of the first scenes in TDK before the scarecrow\carpark scene shows two crims in an alley talking and the batsignal in the sky, they see it and one chickens out because he's shit scared of running into batman.

This scene alone is more Batman than anything in Burton's films, which I love by the way, but they are but a hair on Nolans arsecrack

[Veelk]

Even the mob guy said the baddies were wise to his act and weren't taking him very seriously. How long was he Batman up until that point? Under a year? And they were already laughing at him? He was a joke. I really didn't like his take on Batman. He came off as a bumbling buffoon way too often.

Like others have mentioned, the mob was scared shitless of the bat until after they found out about his no kill rule, at which point they thought they were safe. Batman quickly dispelled that notion by taking Marcone and breaking his legs. And if that didn't work, then he made it look like he did kill Harvey Dent, so the one reason criminals thought they no longer had to fear batman for was gone within a week.

[Jables Swan]

Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.

Batman (1989) sold 10 million more tickets than TDKR. Crazy stuff.

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/dar...kets-sold/9267

[Solo]

If by "not posted" you mean "has its own dedicated thread on page 1", then no, it hasn't neen posted :P

[dmshaposv]

Looks like I will have to rewatch this movie with a friend who was away. I can't believe I'm saying this but I really don't want to watch it again. A Nolan Batman film, and I've watched BB and TDK at least 3 to 4 times each. :/

At least I'll convince him not to go for Imax. I can't endure the ear torture that was the shitty audio mix.

[Carnby]

Not sure if this has been posted yet or not. Batman (1989) sold 10 million more tickets than TDKR. Crazy stuff. http://www.movies.com/movie-news/dar...kets-sold/9267

Big deal. There's a reason Batman 89 sold more tickets, and it's not because it is a "better" movie.

1. Batman 89 was the first Batman movie in 23 years. TDKR was part of a trilogy, and months before the movie was released, it was already dismissed by the masses.

2. Batman 89 had The Joker played by a well established actor, Jack Nicholson. Who's Tom Hardy? Who's Bane?

[Veelk]

There is also the whole Aurora thing. Nearly everyone I know was suddenly scared to go to the movie theater at that point.

[Inferno313]

Big deal. There's a reason Batman 89 sold more tickets, and it's not because it is a "better" movie. 1. Batman 89 was the first Batman movie in 23 years. TDKR was part of a trilogy, and months before the movie was released, it was already dismissed by the masses. 2. Batman 89 had The Joker played by a well established actor, Jack Nicholson. Who's Tom Hardy? Who's Bane?

How was TDKR dismissed? Bwahaha. It was hugely anticipated.

[Solo]

TDKR was part of a trilogy, and months before the movie was released, it was already dismissed by the masses.

lol wat?

That is some grade A spin-doctoring.

[hlhbk]

For those touting victory for the Avengers keep in mind the Colorado shooting also caused some major negativity around TDKR. Regardless who wins the box office TDKR is by far the better film.

[Solo]

That's a matter of opinion. I would say that Avengers was much more successful in achieving its goals.

[Carnby]

lol wat? That is some grade A spin-doctoring.

Maybe it's just me. I didn't know anyone who liked the trailers. I disticntly remember everyone making fun of the stadium scene in the trailer.

Believe what you want. But there wasn't nearly the hype of TDK.

[Veelk]

TDKR and Avengers is apples and oranges. They set out to do entirely different things. I dislike trying to compare which of the two are better because there isn't much they have in common despite being in the same genre.

[Solo]

Maybe it's just me. I didn't know anyone who liked the trailers. I disticntly remember everyone making fun of the stadium scene in the trailer. Believe what you want. But there wasn't nearly the hype of TDK.

This is all in your head. There is no real world evidence to back it up.

[Scullibundo]

Sure sure, but TDKR doesn't come close to Breathless.

[strafer]

Listen to Sculli, he knows everything.

[Discotheque]

Eh to me it felt like there was less hype for TDKR than TDK. Despite it being the last of the trilogy.

Or maybe I'm just projecting my feelings since the trailers had me nowhere near as hyped as the Joker trailer in front of I am Legend did.

[Veelk]

This is all in your head. There is no real world evidence to back it up.

How do you back up hype? Who is the official tracker of how anticipated something is? I guess we can check google searches, but I don't know it'd apply here with the aurora shooting being a national story. Many people with no interest whatsoever in TDKR would search for that when looking for the story. For the most part, I always thought hype was something anecdotal.

[Scullibundo]

Eh to me it felt like there was less hype for TDKR than TDK. Despite it being the last of the trilogy. Or maybe I'm just projecting my feelings since the trailers had me nowhere near as hyped as the Joker trailer in front of I am Legend did.

There was definitely less hype. The internet fucking EXPLODED when the theatrical trailer for TDK hit. The advertising for TDKR garnered a very nonplussed vibe from a lot of nerds around the internet.

Viral marketing for TDK was also much better received last time around.

Hype was much higher for TDK.

[Solo]

You are using INTERNET NERDS as your basis......what about the remaining 95% of the audience?

[Curufinwe]

Nonplussed means bewildered. If you mean unimpressed, just say unimpressed.

[Scullibundo]

You are using INTERNET NERDS as your basis......what about the remaining 95% of the audience?

Based on this chart I just drew up in crayon, they felt the same way.

[Dilly]

Big deal. There's a reason Batman 89 sold more tickets, and it's not because it is a "better" movie. 1. Batman 89 was the first Batman movie in 23 years. TDKR was part of a trilogy, and months before the movie was released, it was already dismissed by the masses. 2. Batman 89 had The Joker played by a well established actor, Jack Nicholson. Who's Tom Hardy? Who's Bane?

Tom Hardy is fucking awesome.

I was hyped for Tom Hardy.

[Guzim]

Based on this chart I just drew up in crayon, they felt the same way.

What color is the crayon?

[Scullibundo]

What color is the crayon?

I just checked and its not crayon but oil pastels. :( Numbers are no longer reliable.

[Schattenjäger]

I'm glad my predictions were right - I said that TDKR would not do as well. Most here scuffed.
To make it simple - nobody besides nerds gives a fuck about Bane - he is uninteresting
It the movie had a Nolan take on Riddler/Penguin - would have sold a lot more tickets.

[shagg_187]

I'm glad my predictions were right - I said that TDKR would not do as well. Most here scuffed. To make it simple - nobody besides nerds gives a fuck about Bane - he is uninteresting It the movie had a Nolan take on Riddler/Penguin - would have sold a lot more tickets.

I guess that makes me a nerd. Glad there is no Penguin or Riddler. Fuck 'em.