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12w36a Snapshot Notes (via DocM77):

New Item: Skulls. They're decorative, rare drops from mobs. Can be placed on walls or at 45-degree angles on the ground. You can also put them on your head. Zombies, skeletons, Steve (from PvP battling?) and creepers were seen, along with a new mob (more on that later).

Carrots and potatoes can spawn in villages now.

New Item: Carrot on a Stick. Crafting recipe is fishing pole + carrot (placed diagonal from the pole). You can now use those to control saddled pigs. Saddled pigs can't go uphill while being controlled yet.

Chickens now use seeds for breeding instead of wheat.

Beacon has a crafting recipe now: 3 glass on top, glass-nether star-glass in the middle and 3 obisidian on bottom. Speaking of that ...

New Item: Nether Star. It's a drop from a mob.

New Mob: Wither Skeleton. Only spawn in the Nether, possibly only in Nether Fortresses; looks like a black Skeleton carrying a stone sword. They also have the nasty Wither effect from the Wither Boss.They drop coal, bones, stone swords, Wither Skulls. Which you can use...

New Craftable Mob: Wither Boss. Like the Iron Golem: t-shape of Soul Sand (4 blocks) plus Wither Skull on top of all three blocks. Has a phase when forming when you can't him (he blinks blue) but otherwise, just as devastating as before. Has regenerating health. Drops a Nether Star upon death.
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Some more info I thought was interesting at reddit courtesy of redstonehelper:

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Improved Breeding
Chickens now use seeds instead of wheat to breed
Pigs now use carrots instead of wheat to breed

Zombies that pick up items now always drop them

Added decorative mob head blocks (wearable!)

improved pigs

Now accelerate to up to 5 m/s
Saddled pigs can be controlled now
Saddled pigs now drop their saddle when dying

Pigs don't jump or move in water when following a carrot on a stick held by its ride, via - via

Added a way of controlling pigs
You either put a potato or a carrot on a stick to control it - It is a carrot


Craft a fishing rod with a carrot to get a carrot on a stick

When held, it dictates the direction pigs you are riding will head to

Nearby pigs flock towards the player if he is holding the carrot on a stick
screenshots and more at reddit
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Beacons sounds cool, although I have no idea why you need to make a pyramid for it to work.
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Originally Posted by NihonTiger90: View Post
12w36a Snapshot Notes (via DocM77):

New Item: Skulls. They're decorative, rare drops from mobs. Can be placed on walls or at 45-degree angles on the ground. You can also put them on your head. Zombies, skeletons, Steve (from PvP battling?) and creepers were seen, along with a new mob (more on that later).
Now that sounds cool! I love masks.

Also, I'll check out DocM's video. 1.4 is shaping up to be really interesting!
vas_a_morir
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(09-06-2012, 04:23 PM)

The truth is, I've always done vanilla builds. When we built Arkyo, we had to really struggle to get the white wool necessary. It took time. I would have to stop halfway through to go collect materials, but it made it a much more satisfying build. People will use creative mode, or not. It's their choice.

I think what we have now is working fine... and the rail system is really impressive with the colored lines. But then again, you could see much more of the server when you can fly. So, I don't know what the answer is. And I've never once used a spawned block to build anything, but the argument could be made that's why i haven't built much in a while.

Perhaps we should make the spawn be actually INSIDE the station? It would encourage more rail travel. I didn't even know that station existed until I saw Tiger's video.
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Going along -Minsc-'s statement I have to say I am quite proud of the things I have built so far on the server as they have all been done in survival. The more I think about (not that I have much of a say, nor should I have) I think flying should be more restricted. In certain things like NihonTiger's server tours it would be cool to see the server while flying and dropping down to see something interesting but outside of that I think flying to build or travel just to get from a to b is not a good idea as it removes the a big part of the game, for me at least.

I know for a fact that in my move to a new location for a different build if I was flying I would have missed seeing the Future Emerald ravine and Mengy's winter base. As well as stocking up on beef and pork from all of the animals I saw during that trek. I appreciated finding the location I had picked out on the map before hand more because I actively had to try and find it while walking.
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Originally Posted by vas_a_morir: View Post
Perhaps we should make the spawn be actually INSIDE the station? It would encourage more rail travel. I didn't even know that station existed until I saw Tiger's video.
I like this idea.
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Originally Posted by Xun: View Post
I like this idea.
I considered making this suggestion but figured since I built the place my opinion would be seen as a bit biased. :-)
vas_a_morir
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(09-06-2012, 04:42 PM)

I'm checking out the rail system. It's so good. If there was a mod that made rails go faster, it'd be perfect.
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Originally Posted by Xun: View Post
I like this idea.
This has my vote as well.
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Originally Posted by vas_a_morir: View Post
I'm checking out the rail system. It's so good. If there was a mod that made rails go faster, it'd be perfect.
I'd love for them to run smoother. For me at least rails and anything red stone based on the server is so laggy.
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For rails at least isn't this a problem with moving faster then the server/connection can handle as the chunks are being loaded much much faster then normal? I remember on a personal server running 2gb of RAM dedicated only to minecraft/java that I still had minecart lag due to the connection not being able to keep up with the loading of the chunks.
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All this talk aboot rail systems... If you guys really want, I guess you can link my harvester up to the system. I've made a potential door from the warp room.. Use that if you do anything, lol. If not I'll just put the wall back to how it was :D

Ok back to GW2!

PS: I added 2 nether chests to the catch-all room.
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Originally Posted by ArtistDude88: View Post
All this talk aboot rail systems... If you guys really want, I guess you can link my harvester up to the system. I've made a potential door from the warp room.. Use that if you do anything, lol. If not I'll just put the wall back to how it was :D

Ok back to GW2!

PS: I added 2 nether chests to the catch-all room.
Great idea I'll start working on it once I can get back to my PC on Monday.
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Wow. The Nether is about to get a hell of a lot scarier. But why is the Wither boss craftable? You need to build a boss to fight? That's interesting. I expect the star will then be extremely useful if you actually have to call upon Satan himself to do battle in order to get it.

Also solo glad to see seeds getting a new use. We need more uses for it. You end up with so much.

Cannot wait for Halloween. I wish our server company had an option to use snapshots. As well as better backup and restore tools.
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Snapshot: Cool new features. :)


On the subject of building:

I've been thinking for a while now that it's time I start cutting back on the amount of time I play minecraft. There's simply other things I have to do. Before I did that there were things around my farm build I wanted to tidy up. The problem now is there's so may other projects around the server I'd like to lend a hand to I'm not sure when I'd get the time. With that, would any of you be interested in helping fill in spaces around the farm? While I'd like to top it all off on my own, the itch is there to move on elsewhere on the server. I know many of you are capable builders who may think of a way to use a space in a way I'd never consider. This of course is after the gold farm is finished.

Speaking of, here are my plans for the gold farm:

- Finish slabbing.
- Add an exp mode, similar to the enderman grinder. As Mack suggested you'll be able to use loot swords to increase the gold obtained from the pigmen.
- Proper detailing of the grinder room walls.
- Replace the pusher redstone with repeaters to prevent a glitch.
- Construct a proper maintenance catwalk on each level of the grinder array.
- Construct a tunnel out and up through the magma lake.
- Build a proper road back to my Nether portal and future nether base. Potentially it will be a rail, however, I've always liked the idea of travelling on foot in the nether. (It was great back in the early days of 1.2 travelling in the nether from my portal to Neolulu, killing pigmen and ghasts on the way.)
- Remove temporary walkways.
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We need to update this. Also, make it oriented correctly with the proper Cardinal Directions, although that might be tough to make it look right.

Also, I think we should consider expanding Spawn Central Station. It's way too easy to miss right now. Just, we make it more conspicuous.
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Originally Posted by vas_a_morir: View Post
We need to update this. Also, make it oriented correctly with the proper Cardinal Directions, although that might be tough to make it look right.

Also, I think we should consider expanding Spawn Central Station. It's way too easy to miss right now. Just, we make it more conspicuous.
We could try making the building on top of it bigger so it stands out better. With a bigger building we could also make a proper spawn area in it with rules, directions and what lines go where.
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Originally Posted by CrAzYLeGzLU: View Post
We could try making the building on top of it bigger so it stands out better. With a bigger building we could also make a proper spawn area in it with rules, directions and what lines go where.
I like that idea. While your work on spawn has made it leagues better that before, there is still much room for improvement.
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Sheep will regrow their wool now? Was just reading the wiki trying to figure out a better way of harvesting.

The way I did it before was breed a huge pen of one color and then /harvestslaughter it down to 2 and start breeding again. It was a really clunky way to do it, gonna see if this regrow thing works.
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Originally Posted by CharmingCharlie: View Post
:-D glad you liked the Doom Coaster it was an absolute pain in the arse to do (as was most of that park) however I am immensely proud at how the park turned out. In terms of how long it took, well me and Crazylegzlu finished the farm dome at the end of January this year. I think we then had a bit of a break. So the park was started at the beginning of February.

Once the dome was up (took about 2 weeks to clear the land and build the dome) the Rollercoaster was the first thing to get built and that took an absolute ageeeeeeeee. It got switched and changed more times than I can count. It was also going to be a lot more elaborate with redstone switches, rail traps and what not. However server lag limited what we could do with the Coaster :-(

The coaster itself took me and Crazylegzlu nearly 2 months to do (this is at nearly 8 - 10 hours a day everyday). I did the overall design of the coaster, most of the redstone attractions. The whole beautification of the coaster is down to Crazylegzlu though. He did a fantastic job of taking my crude functional crap and made it look dazzling.

The rest of the park took another month to do, the hardest part was thinking stuff up. It was a relief when Evil9000 took up some real estate with his maze and Procrastinator42 took up some more space with his fantastic trials attraction. But again the bulk of the credit should go to Crazylegzlu for coming up with some insanely cool stuff whilst I floundered around thinking "sod it I will do another baby coaster".

TL;DR it took 3 - 4 months at about 8 hours a day. It was a pain in the arse but me and Crazylegzlu are so damn proud of that place.
neocraft server? whereabouts?
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Originally Posted by mrklaw: View Post
neocraft server? whereabouts?
Yep it's on the Neocraft server in Dome City.

If starting from the Spawn Central station take the Dome City Rail then the Amusement Dome rail once you get to Dome City.

Once you enter the Amusement Done its pretty easy to spot the Doom Coaster.
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Originally Posted by NihonTiger90: View Post
NihonTiger on NeoCraft 26 is uploaded!

For the first real time, we go on a server tour around spawn briefly, then off to Pioneer Town/Village/City/Whatever, New Castleton and the Arks, and vas' place.

The second part of the recording session is a shortened Episode 27. Something happens that makes me go crazy. Stay tuned.
seems like a lot of people aren't around anymore - are many of those pioneer town houses unoccupied? Just that most have private signs and perhaps they could be reused by others?


Originally Posted by CrAzYLeGzLU: View Post
Yep it's on the Neocraft server in Dome City.

If starting from the Spawn Central station take the Dome City Rail then the Amusement Dome rail once you get to Dome City.

Once you enter the Amusement Done its pretty easy to spot the Doom Coaster.
thanks
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Originally Posted by nismogrendel: View Post
Sheep will regrow their wool now? Was just reading the wiki trying to figure out a better way of harvesting.

The way I did it before was breed a huge pen of one color and then /harvestslaughter it down to 2 and start breeding again. It was a really clunky way to do it, gonna see if this regrow thing works.
Sheep have regrown their wool for a while now, actually. I recall having a sheep farm back in, like, 1.1-era.

A sheep farm wherein the sheep always teleported outside of their pens into others', but a sheep farm all the same.
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I have successfully added an exp mode prototype to one of the pigmen grinder arrays. Start sharpening your Loot III enchanted swords.
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Originally Posted by CrAzYLeGzLU: View Post
Yep it's on the Neocraft server in Dome City.

If starting from the Spawn Central station take the Dome City Rail then the Amusement Dome rail once you get to Dome City.

Once you enter the Amusement Done its pretty easy to spot the Doom Coaster.
Wow, that was insane. Took a while to find,mended up warping to dome city because I was in the middle of nowhere.

Is there a minimap or anything on the server, or is it just normal minecraft maps?
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Originally Posted by mrklaw: View Post
Wow, that was insane. Took a while to find,mended up warping to dome city because I was in the middle of nowhere.

Is there a minimap or anything on the server, or is it just normal minecraft maps?
There is a rendered map of the server here :-

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61524402/Neocraft%20Server%20Files/index.html#/-2865/64/-1216/-8/0/0


However a lot of people install the mod "Rei's minimap" which helps with navigation (it lets you set markers for important areas). You can get Rei's minimap here :-

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/482147-132125-aug17-reis-minimap-v32-05/
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New Chunky render of Mineshaft. This time it's night time. The default emitters value is nearly doubled for this pic. SPP count is 2000. Took 11 hours on my Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz with 4GB of 800MHz DDR 2 RAM.

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since you craft wither dudes, couldnt you just surround them with tnt and blow em up upon spawn?
figure out the distance needed to get him down to near zero hp and then finish him with a bow.
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Originally Posted by -SD-: View Post
New Chunky render of Mineshaft. This time it's night time. The default emitters value is nearly doubled for this pic. SPP count is 2000. Took 11 hours on my Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz with 4GB of 800MHz DDR 2 RAM.

Looks great dude, but did it seriously take 11 hours to render?

It would be nice if Minecraft looked like that, but it obviously wouldn't be possible with Java.
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Originally Posted by Xun: View Post
did it seriously take 11 hours to render?
Yes, 11 hours. Naturally, with a four-core-CPU it would've taken half that time.

I'm no expert, but I guess it took so long because of the amount of light emitters in the scene?

Even with 2000 SPP's it's quite grainy-looking...
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A friend and I did some tests and seems the only block the Wither can't destroy is bedrock which is moot anyway since you can't place it.

Curious about the TNT question though. Just be careful you don't blow up the star.
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since you craft wither dudes, couldnt you just surround them with tnt and blow em up upon spawn?
figure out the distance needed to get him down to near zero hp and then finish him with a bow.
Perhaps loading up a cage of dispensers with arrows could do the job? It would certainly be cheaper and safer than TNT.
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Originally Posted by -Minsc-: View Post
Perhaps loading up a cage of dispensers with arrows could do the job? It would certainly be cheaper and safer than TNT.
I've heard that, once the Wither gets below 50% HP, it becomes immune to arrows. I don't go on snapshots though so I don't know.

I do wonder if suffocation would work. It won't fire until it spots an entity, so if you build it in a cage, get out of there as it's generating, and trigger a sand or gravel cave-in, maybe that'd be a cheap way to kill it?
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NihonTiger on NeoCraft Episode 27 is up. I get trolled hard in this one. Plus, it's a tour of the Mega Harvester
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LOL! Darn sheep, eh?

I tried to separate them into colored pens the other day... but I think I'd have to go underground to fit them all! (and make it look nice)
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Originally Posted by NihonTiger90: View Post
NihonTiger on NeoCraft Episode 27 is up. I get trolled hard in this one. Plus, it's a tour of the Mega Harvester
I am laughing so hard at the video that my co-workers are looking at me funny.
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Anyone else having trouble connecting to a SMP right now? Seems like their authentication servers are down.
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Anyone else having trouble connecting to a SMP right now? Seems like their authentication servers are down.
Seems that way. I can get on neocraft.
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Looks great dude, but did it seriously take 11 hours to render?

It would be nice if Minecraft looked like that, but it obviously wouldn't be possible with Java.
Have you tried the GLSL shaders with V10 SEUS? It looks incredible for real time in the java engine.

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I recommend everyone give the Technic and Tekkit (if you like multiplayer) pack a try. I used to be a vanilla guy but I finally picked it up last week and it makes the game so much more fun with stuff to actually do. I just wish the shaders mod would work with it.
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Have you tried the GLSL shaders with V10 SEUS? It looks incredible for real time in the java engine.

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I recommend everyone give the Technic and Tekkit (if you like multiplayer) pack a try. I used to be a vanilla guy but I finally picked it up last week and it makes the game so much more fun with stuff to actually do. I just wish the shaders mod would work with it.
As much as I'd like to try those out, I only have so much time for Minecraft and it goes toward NeoCraft.
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We need to build a capital city on Neocraft, or if we don't want to build a whole new city we could designate a city as the capital and build a capital building there. We could come up with fake political titles for people on the server like Ark would be the president and give them offices in the capital building.

Now I've got no idea if we had something like this on the server before the reset (that was before my time) but I think this could be a cool little community project.
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Originally Posted by CrAzYLeGzLU: View Post
We need to build a capital city on Neocraft, or if we don't want to build a whole new city we could designate a city as the capital and build a capital building there. We could come up with fake political titles for people on the server like Ark would be the president and give them offices in the capital building.

Now I've got no idea if we had something like this on the server before the reset (that was before my time) but I think this could be a cool little community project.
Guess we could merge my mountain city idea with the capital city idea. I was going to build it just outside my fortress on these mountains:

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Originally Posted by NihonTiger90: View Post
Guess we could merge my mountain city idea with the capital city idea. I was going to build it just outside my fortress on these mountains:
Sounds like a good idea to me, and it's right next to a rail which will be nice.
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Originally Posted by -Minsc-: View Post
As much as I'd like to try those out, I only have so much time for Minecraft and it goes toward NeoCraft.
Understandable. Also recollecting on my experience, the learning curve was a bit of a pain at first. If people have the time to really dive in there is some fantastic stuff in it.

Overall though, the only 'must have' mod from the whole thing would be industrialcraft. I couldn't play the game again without the solar panels or just the electrical element in general. That added so much fun for me.
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Electrics are good, but my son plays tekkit a lot and a lot of it baffles me. I'm only just getting back into vanilla minecraft and things like villages and enchantments are new to me. Then he throws in macerators and solar panels and I'm lost. And the crafting recipes can be a bit like a Russian doll. You need A to make B, but to make A you need C and D. Oh and D needs EFG.
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Originally Posted by CrAzYLeGzLU: View Post
We need to build a capital city on Neocraft, or if we don't want to build a whole new city we could designate a city as the capital and build a capital building there. We could come up with fake political titles for people on the server like Ark would be the president and give them offices in the capital building.

Now I've got no idea if we had something like this on the server before the reset (that was before my time) but I think this could be a cool little community project.
I won't accept anything other than this as a capital city.

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So after reading this, an article about how fun MineZ is (a mod of Minecraft that mimics DayZ), I'm wondering if you guys have plans to test it, or if you have a server up?

Edit: Just noticed they have their own servers.
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I am going through withdrawls of minecraft over the weekend. I signed in here and there but I couldn't stay in as my onboard sound is not being detected by windows. I am trying to find a cheap PCIe sound card so I can get back into playing until I can pay for the "hold" on express shipping for the replacement MOBO.

Also I like Ark's idea for the Capital City and the location Nihon has shown. I'll be more then happy to contribute materials if needed. I am also thinking we might need a rail running from neolantis/future city to the east. Its good seeing my new place on the map but it made me realize how very far from the rails it is.
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