speculawyer
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(09-14-2012, 08:31 PM)

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ACLU helps KKK sue after their bid to "adopt" a road in Georgia is denied #1

Meh . . . if they want to pick up trash, let them.

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ATLANTA (Reuters) - A Ku Klux Klan chapter sued the state of Georgia on Thursday for rejecting the white supremacist group's application to "adopt" a stretch of highway.

The KKK chapter, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, said Georgia's refusal to let it join an adopt-a-highway program, which typically involves volunteers picking up trash and planting trees along roads, violated its free speech rights.

The state's reasons for denying the application were "frivolous and pretextual" and were designed to "shift their duty to uphold free speech to a court instead," the lawsuit filed in Georgia state court said.

"We decided to take this case because it is such a clear violation of the speech rights of the group," said Debbie Seagraves, executive director of the ACLU of Georgia. "We can't let that slide."
http://news.yahoo.com/ku-klux-klan-s...233228866.html

The current top comment on that the Yahoo story is ice cold.
Edit: The comment I was referring to is no longer on top . . . I was referring to the one macuser1of5 mentioned a couple posts below.
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perfectchaos007
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They would have only picked up the white trash anyway.
macuser1of5
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"OK, you can pick up trash and plant trees, but do not hang anything from the trees!"

lol you aren't kidding
akira28
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(09-14-2012, 08:34 PM)

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hrm..well...that is what they do.
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what road? i hope they approve it so i can drive on it every day and get my money's worth!

and top comment... DDDDAAAAAAMMMNNN!!!!
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Originally Posted by speculawyer: View Post
Meh . . . if they want to pick up trash, let them.
Yep. I believe the last time this happened, they were allowed to adopt the highway and eventually lost it because they didn't actually clean it up. I expect the same here.
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Actually, yeah... you could have let that one slide, ACLU.
Rocket Scientist
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What is the purpose of the modern KKK?
Ponn01
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Be funny if they get the road then people start dropping bags of shit on that stretch.
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Originally Posted by SUPREME1: View Post
Actually, yeah... you could have let that one slide, ACLU.
can't just start making exceptions for speech you don't like.
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Originally Posted by The Faceless Master: View Post
can't just start making exceptions for speech you don't like.
Yeah. Fuck those guys, but I have to respect the ACLU's decision. This is what dedication to one's principles actually looks like.
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Originally Posted by SUPREME1: View Post
Actually, yeah... you could have let that one slide, ACLU.
They can't though. Total disclaimer, I'm an ACLU member, donate monthly and support them 1000% They have to back rights violations like this.

When a friend or someone I know calls me out as hate speech supporter because of incidents like this, I always say: I support the right of the KKK to march and have free speech. I also support the right of everyone else to shout them down.

Our culture is messy.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
What is the purpose of the modern KKK?
A place where idiots can out themselves and inspire the rest of us to not be them.
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ye olde thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480400
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Originally Posted by perfectchaos007: View Post
They would have only picked up the white trash anyway.
This post is funny.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
What is the purpose of the modern KKK?
Social club.
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Originally Posted by echoshifting: View Post
Yeah. Fuck those guys, but I have to respect the ACLU's decision. This is what dedication to one's principles actually looks like.
This. Massive respect to the ACLU regardless of how much I hate the KKK
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Good on the ACLU. Reprehensible people deserve the same rights that we do.
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Not really a rights violation--around here at the very least, the KKK is known for adopting highways and then not living up to their side of the contract--they just want their names on signs along the highway. There's definite pretext to bar them on that.
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Originally Posted by perfectchaos007: View Post
They would have only picked up the white trash anyway.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
What is the purpose of the modern KKK?
Draging America back to the 1800's
Iceman
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They're trying to get their name on a tiny billboard for PR.

Screw 'em. If they want to do public service work, let them do it anonymously. There is no way the public should be helping the KKK spread their name or influence.
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Im honestly glad I give money to the aclu.
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Originally Posted by The Faceless Master: View Post
and top comment... DDDDAAAAAAMMMNNN!!!!
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Originally Posted by perfectchaos007: View Post
They would have only picked up the white trash anyway.
Quality first reply.


Originally Posted by SUPREME1: View Post
Actually, yeah... you could have let that one slide, ACLU.
First the Mohammed movie, now this... fucking first amendment, how does it work?
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Originally Posted by Iceman: View Post
They're trying to get their name on a tiny billboard for PR.

Screw 'em. If they want to do public service work, let them do it anonymously. There is no way the public should be helping the KKK spread their name or influence.
.

These people lynched people and did other completely racist acts.
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Originally Posted by gurudyne: View Post
Not really a rights violation--around here at the very least, the KKK is known for adopting highways and then not living up to their side of the contract--they just want their names on signs along the highway. There's definite pretext to bar them on that.
If that's true then they should lose the suit. That's that.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
What is the purpose of the modern KKK?
Tea Party republicans.
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Originally Posted by gurudyne: View Post
Not really a rights violation--around here at the very least, the KKK is known for adopting highways and then not living up to their side of the contract--they just want their names on signs along the highway. There's definite pretext to bar them on that.
Is that why they were denied? If not this would be pretty irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by El_TigroX: View Post
They can't though. Total disclaimer, I'm an ACLU member, donate monthly and support them 1000% They have to back rights violations like this.

When a friend or someone I know calls me out as hate speech supporter because of incidents like this, I always say: I support the right of the KKK to march and have free speech. I also support the right of everyone else to shout them down.

Our culture is messy.
ACLU needs to give the 2nd Amendment some more attention...though some of the state ones do.
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Mad respect for ACLU, defending the people that hates them.
Last edited by massoluk; 09-15-2012 at 01:50 AM. Reason: mass/mad lol
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Originally Posted by Kurtofan: View Post
.

These people lynched people and did other completely racist acts.
When is the last time that the KKK actually lynched someone or behaved violently as an institution? This isn't a completely rhetorical question. I don't know the answer.

During most of the 20th century it would have been fair to call the KKK a terrorist organization, among other labels. Now it's probably better to think of it as a social club for racist dicks.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientist: View Post
What is the purpose of the modern KKK?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q4txN1ut20&t=192s
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Originally Posted by perfectchaos007: View Post
They would have only picked up the white trash anyway.
Originally Posted by macuser1of5: View Post
"OK, you can pick up trash and plant trees, but do not hang anything from the trees!"
"Do they know that stretch of road is blacktop?"
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I can only hope the lawyer they assign is a black, Jewish homosexual. Not just to spite the KKK, but to show how important that ACLU members believe these rights to be.
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Originally Posted by perfectchaos007: View Post
They would have only picked up the white trash anyway.
I appreciate this post.
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Originally Posted by Al-ibn Kermit: View Post
I can only hope the lawyer they assign is a black, Jewish homosexual. Not just to spite the KKK, but to show how important that ACLU members believe these rights to be.
How would your suggestion accomplish that goal? They should receive no special treatment, good or bad, if ACLU wants to stick up for its principles. I suspect - I hope - they are another faceless client as far as the ACLU is concerned.
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Anyone can defend their beliefs when it's easy. #38

Originally Posted by SUPREME1: View Post
Actually, yeah... you could have let that one slide, ACLU.
This is actually why I respect the ACLU even while I don't respect those they're defending.
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When are they gonna protect the following amendment?!?
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Originally Posted by SUPREME1: View Post
Actually, yeah... you could have let that one slide, ACLU.
Then the ACLU would have betrayed what the organization was founded on. The KKK is still shitty however.
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Originally Posted by Gallbaro: View Post
When are they gonna protect the following amendment?!?
Apparently that's falls to the SAFoundation. ACLU must have a fault copy of the bill of rights.
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Originally Posted by Manos: The Hans of Fate: View Post
Apparently that's falls to the SAFoundation. ACLU must have a fault copy of the bill of rights.
The second amendment is nowhere near as unequivocal as the first. It was ratified faulty.