[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Leeness, do you want to go out some time? 100% serious.

Not to be rude but... You're not her therapist, Felix. And I can smell your desperation through my computer screen.

Hahahahahahaha

[Izick]

[Atramental]

Ooo... I feel like I should not have made that post.

[Fiction]

Basically, I'm crazy. lol Someday maybe. Therapy therapy therapy. If therapy doesn't work then...oop. Haha.

I personally think you should find out who you are before entering into any kind of relationship. And I know that feel about having self esteem issues. I still struggle with them sometimes, but as I said before: you are beautiful, and anyone that says otherwise is negging you. Everyone, and mean everyone in my school told me constantly how ugly I was. There was girl in our school with downs syndrome, and they once voted on a chalk board while the teacher was out that it would be better to date her than me. I believed them for the longest time. You've seen my pics, I am not ugly. People will say anything to either make you think you can't do any better than them, since they are pitying you enough to give you the time of day or make themselves feel better by putting you down. Don't listen to that shit.

[jaxword]

Ooo... I feel like I should not have made that post.

I'm pretty much high or drunk whenever I'm posting on neogaf so I say that every post. Just don't worry, be happy.

[FelixOrion]

I'm pretty much high or drunk whenever I'm posting on neogaf so I say that every post. Just don't worry, be happy.

[Devolution]

I'm pretty much high or drunk whenever I'm posting on neogaf so I say that every post. Just don't worry, be happy.

Drunk posting is fun. It's like blowing through red stop lights safe mode.

[Leeness]

I personally think you should find out who you are before entering into any kind of relationship. And I know that feel about having self esteem issues. I still struggle with them sometimes, but as I said before: you are beautiful, and anyone that says otherwise is negging you. Everyone, and mean everyone in my school told me constantly how ugly I was. There was girl in our school with downs syndrome, and they once voted on a chalk board while the teacher was out that it would be better to date her than me. I believed them for the longest time. You've seen my pics, I am not ugly. People will say anything to either make you think you can't do any better than them, since they are pitying you enough to give you the time of day or make themselves feel better by putting you down. Don't listen to that shit.

Definitely. That's why I'm just...yeah, no relationships, even if I could get them.

They weren't negging. They legit thought I was gross. :< And these are grown men too, not high schoolers, haha. Oh well. I won't be talking to guys, they will ignore me, no chance of them being horrible to me. Unless they go out of their way to just randomly insult me. Which has happened once or twice. Here's hoping men just leave me alone.

[Finaika]

I wish :( but unfortunately, everyone IRL, myself included, think I'm hideous. Such is life I guess... But in the last few weeks, I've decided I couldn't handle a relationship even if it were possible to get one, so... It's all good. Guys can think I'm garbage, but it doesn't matter. :)

[Leeness]

Lolol, I love that GIF. Lion looks so loving :')

[Fiction]

Definitely. That's why I'm just...yeah, no relationships, even if I could get them. They weren't negging. They legit thought I was gross. :< And these are grown men too, not high schoolers, haha. Oh well. I won't be talking to guys, they will ignore me, no chance of them being horrible to me. Unless they go out of their way to just randomly insult me. Which has happened once or twice. Here's hoping men just leave me alone.

Then they were grown men acting like 15 year old boys, I can say for certain they didn't legit think you were gross. So again, you shouldn't listen to anything they have to say. They are doing to for attention, or to make themselves feel better. Ignore that shit.

[shintoki]

Then they were grown men acting like 15 year old boys. So again, you shouldn't listen to anything they have to say. They are doing to for attention, or to make themselves feel better. Ignore that shit.

A girl said I looked weird the other day. Realized that I was hotter than any girl at that table she sat at.

That is confidence and idiocy!

[Leeness]

Then they were grown men acting like 15 year old boys, I can say for certain they didn't legit think you were gross. So again, you shouldn't listen to anything they have to say. They are doing to for attention, or to make themselves feel better. Ignore that shit.

Haha. I dunno man. Random guys, who don't know each other, just went out of their way to be awful to me. Seems like I'm the problem. :<

[Fiction]

Haha. I dunno man. Random guys, who don't know each other, just went out of their way to be awful to me. Seems like I'm the problem. :<

Nope. Not you. I've seen your picture. They were being assholes, pure and simple. To this day, people still occasionally call me gross or ugly. Go and look at those pics a few pages back. Should I believe them? Am I gross or ugly? You believing your random guys means I should believe mine.

[Leeness]

Nope. Not you. I've seen your picture. They were being assholes, pure and simple. To this day, people still occasionally call me gross or ugly. Go and look at those pics a few pages back. Should I believe them? Am I gross or ugly? You believing your random guys means I should believe mine.

You shouldn't <3

[MisterNugNug]

Haha. I dunno man. Random guys, who don't know each other, just went out of their way to be awful to me. Seems like I'm the problem. :<

If you didn't do anything and they actively hurled shit your way; that makes them assholes. Its their fault/problems. Not yours.

[Fiction]

You shouldn't <3

Then you shouldn't either. We will both not believe random assholes.

[Leeness]

If you didn't do anything and they actively hurled shit your way; that makes them assholes. Its their fault/problems. Not yours.

I said hi, started a conversation and wondered if they wanted to get coffee. :<

Maybe someday, Fiction. <3

[Fiction]

I said hi, started a conversation and wondered if they wanted to get coffee. :< Maybe someday, Fiction. <3

Again, they were assholes and they were negging you. This whole 'if you treat a girl like shit and then pretend to be interested despite yourself, she'll sleep with you right off' is incredibly popular.

[Mysterious Stranger]

These guys have money that's the only reason

[MisterNugNug]

I said hi, started a conversation and wondered if they wanted to get coffee. :<

So you were being nice and they decided to give you shit. I fail to see what you did wrong. People who go out of their way to be vicious and mean in that kind of situation; you're well rid of them. Good riddance.

[Leeness]

Yeah, they were jerks, but hearing "ugh, no, you're so ugly", over and over, even after I've gone to lengths to try to make myself look better, is just hard.

I was fat and ugly... I lost weight... I'm still fat and ugly apparently.

I will lose more weight, haha.

[Fiction]

Yeah, they were jerks, but hearing "ugh, no, you're so ugly", over and over, even after I've gone to lengths to try to make myself look better, is just hard. I was fat and ugly... I lost weight... I'm still fat and ugly apparently. I will lose more weight, haha.

Again...no your not. I am having trouble figuring out why you are so quick to believe a few random jerks over basically everyone on neogaf, who tend to make fun of ugly people.

[zoukka]

Those kind of people thrive on the low self-esteem of others they torment. And unfortunately they usually are very good at identifying people who already have issues with their confidence. We should all just feel sorry for those scum and hope they would grow up one day.

I am having trouble figuring out why you are so quick to believe a few random jerks

That my friend is the vicious cycle many people are trying to escape from. No matter how shitty those people might appear, they still hold some kind of power (authority even) over the people they bully.

[Leeness]

Again...no your not. I am having trouble figuring out why you are so quick to believe a few random jerks over basically everyone on neogaf, who tend to make fun of ugly people.

Difference between IRL and internet. :/

I've never been told even once IRL that I was pretty, cute, acceptable. So... I dunno what the internet is seeing, but it definitely doesn't come across that way IRL.

[Foxy Fox 39]

Difference between IRL and internet. :/ I've never been told even once IRL that I was pretty, cute, acceptable. So... I dunno what the internet is seeing, but it definitely doesn't come across that way IRL.

Nah. The great thing about the internet is you realize how myopic your life can be. The guys around you now or then aren't the only guys on the planet or even in your city.

If gaf says you're cute, you best believe it.

[TUROK]

Again...no your not. I am having trouble figuring out why you are so quick to believe a few random jerks over basically everyone on neogaf, who tend to make fun of ugly people.

Some people just have really low self-images of themselves.

I used to have a crush on a girl, one of the most gorgeous girls I've ever met, yet she had a very negative self-image about herself. Part of me assumed that she was just fishing for compliments, but as I got to know her better, I learned that she definitely wasn't faking. Her words: "No matter what anyone says, I'm always going to feel like this." Made me sad when I read that.

Self-image has the potential of being really screwed up. I should know.

[maxxpower]

Definitely. That's why I'm just...yeah, no relationships, even if I could get them. They weren't negging. They legit thought I was gross. :< And these are grown men too, not high schoolers, haha. Oh well. I won't be talking to guys, they will ignore me, no chance of them being horrible to me. Unless they go out of their way to just randomly insult me. Which has happened once or twice. Here's hoping men just leave me alone.

Have you tried a different dating market/environment, like a different city nearby or something?

[MisterNugNug]

Difference between IRL and internet. :/ I've never been told even once IRL that I was pretty, cute, acceptable. So... I dunno what the internet is seeing, but it definitely doesn't come across that way IRL.

I don't want to get too personal, but you have friends that surely feel that way don't they? I can't speak for all of Neogaf, but I think its unanimous that you look really great in your profile picture.

[KAOz]

I said hi, started a conversation and wondered if they wanted to get coffee. :<

I'd buy you a coffee.

Seriously, nothing wrong with you at all. But I do understand that shit like what you have been through crushes ones self-esteem. Been there myself back in the days.

[Leeness]

Some people just have really low self-images of themselves. I used to have a crush on a girl, one of the most gorgeous girls I've ever met, yet she had a very negative self-image about herself. Part of me assumed that she was just fishing for compliments, but as I got to know her better, I learned that she definitely wasn't faking. Her words: "No matter what anyone says, I'm always going to feel like this." Made me sad when I read that. Self-image has the potential of being really screwed up. I should know.

Yep.

Therapy. haha.

[ThoseDeafMutes]

I've never been told even once IRL that I was pretty, cute, acceptable. So... I dunno what the internet is seeing, but it definitely doesn't come across that way IRL.

I don't think I know anybody in real life who would just randomly blurt out that a girl was pretty / cute / acceptable. Then again, my friend circles go out of their way to not tell people they're ugly even when we all know they are, so maybe that's just us.

Australia!

[Cuddler]

I'll add my opinion and say that even if I have really different taste both Leeness and Fiction are absolutely not bad looking girls, not sure what was the problems with guys where you live. I will never understand why people are mean in the first place, I mean, it's not funny at all. I completely agree about not giving a fuck about the general opinion. IMO everyone should try to understand what he/she wants to be and what will makes him/her happy. Not try to be someone else only to get a girl/boy or change just because everyone else say that you need to change. I mean if that was the case, every guy will be skinny/muscular and charismatic/silent which will be really terrible IMO. The same for girls, we don't want a world where everyone is the same, right? Maybe my way of thinking it's a little dreamy. I think is normal that all the people have positive and negative trait. I'm nice and good, but I'm shy and insecure too. This are part of me too. I think find someone that really loves you for what you are is fantastic. Woking togherer on what are considered flaws is awesome. I like guys that are insecure and shy too because they can understand me, because we can help each other to have more confidence and to "grow up". Not sure why I should change myself to get a guy to fake every day of my life or that he founds me annoying just because I'm insecure. I just think that at least with the person that I love I want to be 100% myself.

[theignoramus]

too many dudes up in here place too much value on looks. If you're attractive, you get more notices or sideways glances from the ladies and some women are more receptive to you approaching them. But unless you're a perfectly sculpted guy or a celebrity, looks only get you so far... you still have to be engaging...warm, funny,personable, blah blah. I used to get notices all the time when I was younger, but I was a cold, unyielding bastard with the personality of a brick, so looking good meant fuck all to my romance and sex life. I was single and miserable.

[FindMyFarms]

Yep. Therapy. haha.

Try picking up a hobby and attaining success (of your own measure) in it. Even if you don't reach your goal, having something to reach for and being able to see your improvement would do wonders for your confidence.

Also it sounds like you're wary of conflict. You never seem to mention standing up for yourself whenever insults are hurled your way. Believe me, you're not the only girl that's every been called ugly, and attractive girls get insulted like that A LOT simply out of hate. Don't take that shit and make people respect you.

[worldrevolution]

Leeness (or Fiction), are you in rural areas? More specifically, are you in countryside bumblefuck America?

[Tence]

Some people just have really low self-images of themselves. I used to have a crush on a girl, one of the most gorgeous girls I've ever met, yet she had a very negative self-image about herself. Part of me assumed that she was just fishing for compliments, but as I got to know her better, I learned that she definitely wasn't faking. Her words: "No matter what anyone says, I'm always going to feel like this." Made me sad when I read that. Self-image has the potential of being really screwed up. I should know.

Yeah I used to be like that girl (not gorgeous though). A female friend of mine told me I was good-looking and I was like: Pffff yeah right.
Only after a while (and more than one persons said it) I started to become a bit more confident.
I still don't think I am that handsome, but at least average. hehe

[KevinCow]

Leeness, you're adorable and I would definitely stalk you if I knew you IRL.

[FyreWulff]

I won't be talking to guys, they will ignore me

Are you sure you're not just ignoring the men that do want to talk to you?

[Izick]

Leeness, how old are you? Are you like in college still or what? If not, does your lifestyle have the benefit of meeting people on a daily basis? Maybe you just don't have a chance to get hit on is what I'm guessing. Just a guess though.

----------------------------------------------------

Also, how exactly does one "find themselves?" Not facetious, just asking.

[NinjaBoiX]

Also, how exactly does one "find themselves?" Not facetious, just asking.

I hate that phrase. So meaningless. "I need to find out who I am, go on a voyage of self discovery."

You are you! If you don't know you by now, you've got bigger problems. It's like a phrase one of those cheesy self help gurus use.

I don't mean to belittle you by the way, that phrase is just nauseating.

[ThoseDeafMutes]

I don't mean to belittle you by the way, that phrase is just nauseating.

Yep. I think what people actually mean is that they want a bit of life experience.

[Izick]

I hate that phrase. So meaningless. "I need to find out who I am, go on a voyage of self discovery." You are you! If you don't know you by now, you've got bigger problems. It's like a phrase one of those cheesy self help gurus use. I don't mean to belittle you by the way, that phrase is just nauseating.

Well, that's why I was asking to be honest. I never understood how people can just throw it around like that. I don't know, does anyone really ever "know themselves"?

[NinjaBoiX]

Well, that's why I was asking to be honest. I never understood how people can just throw it around like that. I don't know, does anyone really ever "know themselves"?

It's just an empty phrase, for when you don't want to give a genuine reason.

Another one is, "I'm a very spiritual person."

What? What does that even mean? It usually alludes to the person being in tune with others emotions, and whatnot. So what they really mean is empathetic. But that doesn't sound quite so unique, and exotic does it.

/rant

[Cuddler]

Also, how exactly does one "find themselves?" Not facetious, just asking.

Well, that's why I was asking to be honest. I never understood how people can just throw it around like that. I don't know, does anyone really ever "know themselves"?

You found yourself with life experience. You never actually stop to know yourself during your life because you have different experience that can change you and let you understand better who you are. I really don't understand what the problem is, it's just a phrase, nothing more. Some people close themselves or only have bad experience during the college days, so when they grow up they are really insecure about a lot of things. What is good/bad for me? what I like/don't like? You can't always ask to someone else the answer, you are supposed to know by yourself. Just to be clear, I'm one of those people.

[HamPster PamPster]

Again, they were assholes and they were negging you. This whole 'if you treat a girl like shit and then pretend to be interested despite yourself, she'll sleep with you right off' is incredibly popular.

Wait, so negging is real? I always figured it was one of those things that exists on the internet but no one would be dumb enough to do it in real life. Anyway, as others have said, people should just ignore what jerks say and go about your day. Of course we all know from personal experience that's easier said then done. If all else fails, give them a dose of their own medicine!

[The Anti-Monitor]

You guys aren't gonna tell Leeness anything she hasn't heard by now, just letting you know.

[FyreWulff]

Again, they were assholes and they were negging you. This whole 'if you treat a girl like shit and then pretend to be interested despite yourself, she'll sleep with you right off' is incredibly popular.

jesus christ, humanity

[Uchip]

im so over life in general that I might try those abominable "negging techniques" out of morbid curiosity

[NinjaBoiX]

You guys aren't gonna tell Leeness anything she hasn't heard by now, just letting you know.

Come on Anti, you're hot too! Plus, sounds like she kind of needs the boost, there's no harm in it.