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Is this the biggest case of port begging ever? I can't think of a game that caused more port begging than this.
demidar
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Originally Posted by plufim: View Post
You know, that is a point that I am bothered does not come up much. If you're angry that the game ended up on a Nintendo system, then shouldn't that anger be directed at SEGA, since they're the ones who bailed on it, causing this situation? But the anger goes toward Nintendo (who just picked up something no-one else would), and more depressingly Platinum (who just want to make games).
Don't know if you know this, but most gamers are dumbasses who can't think critically, especially if it involves Nintendo "stealing or gaems".
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I remember a simpler time, when next-gen sequels were met with utter glee and exuberance from gamers, regardless of platform.

I deeply remember the Final Fantasy VII betrayalton. I also remember going to the local rental store in mid-2006 during summer break, signing out a PlayStation for $20 to try the games and see if there was anything else I enjoyed on it that would make me consider it seriously, rather than blithely writing off the entire game library with the exception of that one game. I played Resident Evil that day. And all was right with the world. My brother bought a PSX the following fall.

Shame that a lot of people are so quick to write off a platform before they get a total handle on it. This one game will give you incentive to look at the rest of the library 6 months to a year in and really see if there's something you can enjoy there.
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Originally Posted by cosmicblizzard: View Post
What would the point be of reviving a game only to let it die again? They are definitely going to market it.
please have nintendo use bayonetta clips interspersed with 'wii family having fun' clips for the commercial
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Originally Posted by bon: View Post
Is this the biggest case of port begging ever? I can't think of a game that caused more port begging than this.
Resident Evil 4 prior to the infamous Capcom 5 betrayal.

I get the giggles out of the fact that some of the same members of the development team are embroiled in this shit yet again. Poor sods.
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Originally Posted by bon: View Post
Is this the biggest case of port begging ever? I can't think of a game that caused more port begging than this.
there was quite a lot of bitching when epic mickey was announced as a wii exclusive. i think the bitching in that thread made a bit more sense though. i honestly am completely baffled as to how any bayonetta fan can be disappointed that a previously-dead sequel is not-dead now, though.
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Originally Posted by Terrell: View Post
I remember a simpler time, when next-gen sequels were met with utter glee and exuberance from gamers, regardless of platform.
I guess the internet does that. GIFT lets people rage out.
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#258

Originally Posted by Seik: View Post
I wonder if the meltdown would be equal or greater if Persona 5 goes WiiU exclusive, because it is a possibility imo. :P
Kind of off-topic, but I hope P5 ends up on WiiU in some fashion - if P3P and P4G are any indication, it's the kind of game I won't want to be tethered to my TV to play.
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Originally Posted by AniHawk: View Post
please have nintendo use bayonetta clips interspersed with 'wii family having fun' clips for the commercial
Nah just have Kevin Butler play Bayonetta 2 in a commercial.
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This debate isn't as fun to read as it was the first time.
beril
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Nintendo just can't seem to be able to please some people. When they announced W101 people bitched about them forcing Kamiya to work on some crappy kiddie game instead of Bayonetta 2; then they announce Bayo 2 and people complain even more...
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Originally Posted by AniHawk: View Post
there was quite a lot of bitching when epic mickey was announced as a wii exclusive. i think the bitching in that thread made a bit more sense though. i honestly am completely baffled as to how any bayonetta fan can be disappointed that a previously-dead sequel is not-dead now, though.


Originally Posted by Host Samurai: View Post
So Nintendo does what SegDont?
"Nintendo's doing what Segain't"
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Originally Posted by bon: View Post
Is this the biggest case of port begging ever? I can't think of a game that caused more port begging than this.
I think Monster hunter 3G/4 is a bigger case than this, albeit not so much blatantly and in a more stealthy way.
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Originally Posted by Gianni Merryman: View Post
I think Monster hunter 3G/4 is a bigger case than this, albeit not so much blatantly and in a more stealthy way.
Probably not so bad by then since Tri was already on the Wii so the writing was on the wall.
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Yes, but still, "it is kinda bullshit that Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U exclusive", says Kotaku.
http://kotaku.com/5945445/actually-i...ii-u-exclusive
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Originally Posted by marc^o^: View Post
Yes, but still, "it is kinda bullshit that Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U exclusive", says Kotaku.
http://kotaku.com/5945445/actually-i...ii-u-exclusive
B-b-but Kotaku is kinda bullshit too. D:
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Originally Posted by beril: View Post
Nintendo just can't seem to be able to please some people. When they announced W101 people bitched about them forcing Kamiya to work on some crappy kiddie game instead of Bayonetta 2; then they announce Bayo 2 and people complain even more...
Nintendo is damned if they do, damned if they don't. And this has been the case since the N64 days, probably.
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#268

lol all these whiners....reminds me of the time when re4 was suppose to be exclusive for the gamecube. those that hated nintendo would say some of the things that the moderates are saying in this thread right now. except now they are just plain ol hating.
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If you want to play Bayonetta 2, Wii U now has a system-seller (or system-borrower). That's should be the end of it.

While you are at it check out Kamiya's own The Wonderful 101 and other potentially good/interesting exclusive titles like NSMBWiiU, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (with online), Pikmin 3, and ZombiU.
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Originally Posted by Rash: View Post
Nintendo is damned if they do, damned if they don't. And this has been the case since the N64 days, probably.
What doesn't kill them only makes them stronger, especially with a very smart CEO. Sooner or later Nintendo will crush the other two with the experience fighting overwhelming uphill battles at every turn gave them.
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Originally Posted by Rash: View Post
Nintendo is damned if they do, damned if they don't. And this has been the case since the N64 days, probably.
no. we have to go deeper.

Quote:
Personally, I think the Nintendo is a piece of right wing garbage akin to the
IBM PC. Slow, out of date, but heavily marketed so that mindless dweenies will
think it's the hottest thing since Zelda had her first period. I have yet TO
SEE A SINGLE GAME ON THE THING SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER THAN STUFF I PLAYED ON MY
OLD ATARI 800 SEVEN YEARS AGO.....Yes, there are some nice games, but they do
not do anything extraordinary and in fact clearly show the glaring limitations
of the thing's inferior pre-VLSI hardware.
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Originally Posted by hiryu64: View Post
"Nintendo's doing what Segcan't"
Fixed.
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#273

Why are people like I don't want to buy it for one game? If you like Bayo you should be looking forward to Wonderful 101 anyway.
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Originally Posted by bomma_man: View Post
Why are people like I don't want to buy it for one game? If you like Bayo you should be looking forward to Wonderful 101 anyway.
Some people have Nintendophobia.
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All I know is, if Nintendo actually succeeds on this hypothetical mission to "win" Japan by getting all the Japanese games on Wii U this gen...

... things are gonna get real interesting.

And ugly.
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oh hey I wonder if people will shut the fuck up now

hint: nope
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Originally Posted by Kaijima: View Post
All I know is, if Nintendo actually succeeds on this hypothetical mission to "win" Japan by getting all the Japanese games on Wii U this gen...

... things are gonna get real interesting.

And ugly.
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Originally Posted by Kaijima: View Post
All I know is, if Nintendo actually succeeds on this hypothetical mission to "win" Japan by getting all the Japanese games on Wii U this gen...

... things are gonna get real interesting.

And ugly.
It'll bring more entertainment than even the best games.
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Originally Posted by WonkersTHEWatilla: View Post
I hate your avatar, Wario.
I can't wait until he starts using the new avatar as a watermark like he did with the old one.
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Originally Posted by Wyndstryker: View Post
Some people have Nintendophobia.
It's kind of justified though considering how 3rd party support for the wii turned out. I know I had zero interest in the platform prior to this

Bayonetta 2 is a system seller for me though
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People who didn't realize this must have something wrong with them.
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Originally Posted by marc^o^: View Post
Yes, but still, "it is kinda bullshit that Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U exclusive", says Kotaku.
http://kotaku.com/5945445/actually-i...ii-u-exclusive
I need that Jean-Luc Pecard "What is this shit" picture posted in response to this. Like customers are owed something in the future for buying a game? Like, if the PS4/720 were the platforms for Bayo2, people would still be upset? Oh please, Kotaku.

This comment blows my mind:
Quote:
I think the mainly bullshit part is that Bayonetta as a game was made for "standard consoles" like 360/PS3. There is no valid reason why a sequel to said game need to be EXCLUSIVELY on a special console like WiiU, since it isn't a spin-off, but a true sequel.
There you go. Valid reason means putting only spin-off titles on the Wii U. Anything else doesn't make sense.
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Originally Posted by marc^o^: View Post
Yes, but still, "it is kinda bullshit that Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U exclusive", says Kotaku.
http://kotaku.com/5945445/actually-i...ii-u-exclusive
What kind of Bullshit is this?
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#284

Originally Posted by Kaijima: View Post
All I know is, if Nintendo actually succeeds on this hypothetical mission to "win" Japan by getting all the Japanese games on Wii U this gen...

... things are gonna get real interesting.

And ugly.
Expect it. Each gen has its "dividing line", so to speak. In the 16-bit time, it was censorship. In the "CD" era, it was analog stick vs. D-Pad. The DVD era was possibly the least divisive generation ever, though not without its quibbles, as it cemented the multi-plat. This gen was HD vs. "waggle".

Next gen? East vs. West.
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Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
oh hey I wonder if people will shut the fuck up now

hint: nope
The shadow remains cast.
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Wow what the hell is wrong with this thread?

Originally Posted by Retro_: View Post
It's kind of justified though considering how 3rd party support for the wii turned out. I know I had zero interest in the platform prior to this

Bayonetta 2 is a system seller for me though
Huh? The Wii was actually pretty awesome. A lot of great games were released for it.
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Originally Posted by xJavonta: View Post
Wow what the hell is wrong with this thread?


Huh? The Wii was actually pretty awesome. A lot of great games were released for it.
The Wii did get a lot of 3rd party support, great games, too, but when Capcom makes Umbrella/Darkside for Wii while other systems get ResEvil 5, or EA puts a lightgun spinoff of Dead Space and a "family friendly" Boom Blox on the Wii while putting Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, Mass Effect, etc. on other systems, it's hard for people to say that the Wii got the better deal and is worth it over PS360.

Of course, all of those Wii games are actually pretty awesome when you really play them, but still. You and I can agree that the Wii had very good 3rd party support (I'd say that in some ways, it had better 3rd party support... 3rd parties actually cared enough to give the Wii exclusives, while other systems just got ports), but I can easily see why some wouldn't think so.
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Originally Posted by Retro_: View Post
It's kind of justified though considering how 3rd party support for the wii turned out. I know I had zero interest in the platform prior to this

Bayonetta 2 is a system seller for me though
Wii has some of the best 3rd party titles of the generation. Only 3rd party game on PS360 better than Little King's Story is Bayonetta.
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We should be grateful to Nintendo.
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Originally Posted by AniHawk: View Post
That post is amazing, hyperbole is off the charts. Goku* levels.

*Did I do that right? I don't really understand those weird Japanese cartoons.
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#291

Wii U runs on bitter tears.
Canis lupus
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I don't understand all the shitstorm, its good that its coming, that gives me just another reason to get a WiiU.
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Originally Posted by Vagabundo: View Post
That post is amazing, hyperbole is off the charts. Goku* levels.

*Did I do that right? I don't really understand those weird Japanese cartoons.
Sūn Włkōng SSJ2 or higher.
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Originally Posted by dragonlife: View Post
Wii U runs on bitter tears.
Which makes it the most powerful system
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Originally Posted by Seik: View Post
I wonder if the meltdown would be equal or greater if Persona 5 goes WiiU exclusive, because it is a possibility imo. :P
In what world would that be a possibility? ROFL Come on now Seik.

Originally Posted by WonkersTHEWatilla: View Post
I hate your avatar, Wario.
lol, oh god, didn't even notice it was wario.
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Could all those claiming to be Bayonetta mega fans post their gamerscore/trophies for the first game?

Glad Nintendo stepped in and helped to bring this game about.

Fingers crossed Platinum/Nintendo continue to have a close working relationship.
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Originally Posted by AniHawk: View Post
That quote never fails to make me laugh.
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Originally Posted by AniHawk: View Post
89 was when I started getting into gaming :'(
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Glad they cleared it up for some people

Originally Posted by dragonlife: View Post
Wii U runs on bitter tears.
and salt. Can't forget the salt.
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It seems some wounds still haven't healed......