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(12-15-2012, 02:02 PM)
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(12-15-2012, 02:04 PM)
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Hey guys,
Simple problem, met a girl recently and have been out on a couple of dates (about 4-5) but haven't been able to escalate to a kiss or anything. I thought she didn't want anything to do with me, but it turns out she's incredibly love shy. She has said she likes me, in a somewhat contrived way but still can't seal in the kiss. I know she's love shy for a few reasons, she's 25 and hasn't had sex in over 4 years. She's only ever had one boyfriend which lasted for 6 months when she was younger (19) and I gather from her friends that she doesn't really like hugs. I can literally feel her shaking a bit when I hug her. It's really odd. I kinda like this girl (last few girls I've dated were lame in comparison, but had no problems with physical contact) but I don't really know how to deal with it. My best guess is to tell her that I'm into her, and that I don't want to pressure her and if I'm ever going to far or fast she can just tell me to slow down, or that whenever she's ready. I'm concerned that there might be some awful history somewhere in there but I don't really want to bring it up. Could use some help. :) |
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(12-15-2012, 02:11 PM)
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(12-15-2012, 02:24 PM)
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"hey its john doe from the theatre" wait for response. After that only text about makIng plans, invite her to something you will be doing anyway. Dont do the one hour text conversation.
This is the only kind of situation where its not bad to reach out. After this she needs to do the initiating of contact
Last edited by Cubsfan23; 12-15-2012 at 02:29 PM.
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(12-15-2012, 02:50 PM)
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(12-15-2012, 06:54 PM)
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this one's probably better suited to the anonymous thread but i suppose it is do with a girl so i'll lay it bare here.
a little bit of backstory - i have a slight thing for one my best friend's housemates and we've made out a bit at parties over the weeks but nothing more serious that. she's a nice girl but i think we're mutually aware that we're not looking for anything proper from it. compounding that idea is the fact that we only get physical when wired and other than that i only talk to her when visiting my friend. which brings us to yesterday night at my birthday party. again we're both fucked up and i'm feeling particularly wavy on ketamine. she takes me to her room, we sit down on her bed to continue chatting and then she starts popping some antidepressants which i take too. from that we start talking about some really raw, emotional stuff about her parents she's going back to visit over christmas - her dad was a depressive and physically abused her as kid so she grew up with her grandparents but her mum stuck with him. she's going back for the first time this christmas to meet them since her mum says he's well again but she's torn up about letting him back into her life. i listened to her and tried to relate some of my experiences coming from a failed marriage and reassured her with hugs but i felt way out of my depth. soon after my friend comes in telling me he's leaving and after that we return to the party nothing more said about it. she then start sobering up as the party winds down and lets me sleep in her bed whilst she babysits the stragglers refusing to go. i talk to her the morning after about how her night was to which she says she blacked out for some of it, which is probably true or just as likely she didn't want to talk about it in a sober state right then and there. i let her catch up on some sleep and leave the house. haven't spoken to her since but might see her tomorrow possibly, if not it won't be until well into january or possibly february. really not sure what i should say and when i should say it, if it's worth saying anything at all
Last edited by CommieCaptorS; 12-15-2012 at 07:00 PM.
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(12-15-2012, 07:16 PM)
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If you want to save the relationship, tell her she needs to control her drinking better. If she is unwilling, bail.
It's all about the slow escalation, where you're getting more and more intimate with her, step by step. |
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(12-15-2012, 07:16 PM)
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Last edited by Style Fox; 12-15-2012 at 07:29 PM.
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(12-16-2012, 01:22 AM)
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Okay, so here is my story.
My ex and I dated for five years, we are both 20 now. We were inseparable. We both came into the relationship with depression. In June, I called my ex something really mean while picking on her looks because I felt she didn't get dressed up enough for the date and was really insecure and assumed didn't love me anymore because she didn't get dressed up and was going to leave me. I was a fucking mess and dragging her down too. Her parents being upset after finding all this out, and her really opening up to me with the things I was doing that bothered her, I started therapy (and still go). It has saved my life. More on that later. So her parents said she couldn't see me anymore. We talked for a little after that but her parents weren't happy and rather than piss them off more, I stopped talking to her. About a month after we broke up, she went on OKCupid and started dating a guy, who within a week or two into July, became her boyfriend (and still is). During this time, she was receptive to me, still texting me, wanting to hang out, seeming sad at the end of our relationship but by late August, I knew it was done. Then... she saw me. Bad things happened and she felt horrible about seeing me. Her depression got worse and she came home for school. When I found out what happened (despite her parents saying I shouldn't know), I talked to her. For hours. It was a serious situation and I was really concerned for her. I expressed that I still had feelings for her, and she said "She can't say the same because she had a boyfriend" but never said she didn't care the same way back, similarly, she said she would be with me if she "could". I didn't change my ground and said we couldn't talk if we couldn't work on us, and not to text me unless she was serious. She never did text me about getting back together. But she did text me multiple times. Saying she missed me, was thinking about me, hoping I do well on finals. It was the recent text that got me to call, to see what was going on. I told her about my life (my friends, old and new, school, concerts, activities, even the girl I'm currently interested in), and she did the same... I was happy to hear her so happy. We both said we were the happiest we've ever been ever.. but we both think about each other a lot. By the end of the 3 hour conversation (after reminding her not to text me, because it's difficult for me to deal with) I asked her what she thought about getting back together. She said she can't. She loves her boyfriend, her family will look down on her and me, and she is scared I will hurt her again. I told her I can only make one promise, not to hurt her again, and if I do I obviously don't deserve her, that I wouldn't come back in her life if I was sure I wasn't going to hurt her, and I'd do my best to regain the trust of her parents. Though her emotions haven't changed from September to now... it's clear it will never happen again between us, despite how badly I want it to. I'm currently seeing a girl who I really like A LOT and have another girl I am interested in, but neither are as special as this girl. I hurt her, and have been in therapy since, not because I lost her, but because she told me I hurt her. That she couldn't be herself and honest with me. It made me want to be a better person and since then I am so much happier, I am a more accepting person, and everyone (family and friends) say its like I'm a different person. Mostly everyone around ME said I needed a girl with thicker skin and I didn't need therapy, but that was definitely not the answer... The obvious answer (and the one both of us get from everyone around us) is it will never work and you are bound to make each other miserable. I don't believe that and I never will. I miss this girl in my life. I told her not to text me unless she wants to work on us, she said okay and bye and that was it. Somehow I doubt I'll ever hear from her again. I feel like I went back 3 months of progress but I didn't make as much of a fool out of myself. It's whatever. I needed to post this because therapy can't come soon enough. |
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(12-16-2012, 01:42 AM)
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What's done is done, I'm afraid. You have new prospects (the girl you seem to like "A LOT", and that other one), and dwelling on your ex is just going to impede the progress you seem to be making. Your ex seems happy enough, and it sounds like she wants you to be happy as well.
You say the two new girls aren't as special, but you'll never find out if you keep dwelling on this. Good luck. |
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(12-16-2012, 01:49 AM)
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(12-16-2012, 02:00 AM)
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I know you guys might be in a discussion. But I wanted to know. What is confidence?
Because it can be many things apparently. I asked quite a few people today and some say it is a belief in yourself that you are capable of doing what you want/need to do. It is tightly tied with self-esteem and self-worth. And the easiest way to gain confidence is to get out there and take risks. With every success your confidence grows. Is this true? |
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(12-16-2012, 02:58 AM)
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Agreed. We are all born confident, many are just taught out of it so to speak. Same thing with self-worth etc. When you realize that everything is inside of you and that you have just forgotten about it, it becomes easier to reach it again. But there are no real step-by-step guides on how to achieve all this.
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(12-16-2012, 05:04 AM)
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Guys I'm screwed. A girl is asking me what I'm doing over the weekend and the truth is I'm not doing a damn thing. What can I possibly say? I can't lie and say I'm doing something interesting because then if she wants to tag along it won't work. If I tell the truth I look like a total loser. I can ignore the message but then that's not helping anything either.
It never ends. |
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(12-16-2012, 05:10 AM)
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Just say something to the effect of "nothing at the moment". |
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sparkle this bitch
(12-16-2012, 05:15 AM)
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(12-16-2012, 05:24 AM)
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If only I had this kind of game. |
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(12-16-2012, 06:12 AM)
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(12-16-2012, 06:32 AM)
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Well I'm not dead in the water yet but it seems like she wants me to take charge somehow and invite her to do something either this week or the next. I just don't know if that's gonna be possible, I've seen the lifestyle she leads and some of the guys she knows and I simply cannot match that right now.
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(12-16-2012, 06:37 AM)
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(12-16-2012, 06:41 AM)
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(12-16-2012, 07:08 AM)
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It's not about delivering a good time. She isn't sitting there saying "I want to be given a good time", she is probably just thinking "I want to hang out with MiDNIGHTS", simple as that. So give her that, and while doing so do something kinda fun. Things you find fun and think she will too, introduce them to her. Keep it simple. If she has shown enough interest to want to hang out then the hardest part is already done. IMO you're building this up too much, it's just catching up. This post I have made now is too much. You are the good time, so just go deliver yourself.
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(12-16-2012, 02:10 PM)
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She doesn't have to know about your typical weekends, and if she feels like spending time with you in the future, your typical weekend might change anyway. |
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(12-16-2012, 03:29 PM)
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Just take her out for some lunch, or a drink (would help you loosen up a bit). Just go out and spend an afternoon/night together. Talk, tell eachother about yourselves. If there is a connection there, you'll feel it and the date will go smoothly and you'll both enjoy yourselves. If there is no connection there, then that's just the way it is. It's hard to proceed further in that instance. Basically, just go out with her and focus on having a good time. Don't boggle yourself down with the worries of trying to impress her, trying hard to make sure she has a good time, etc. If you're having a good time, chances are she is too. |
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(12-16-2012, 05:30 PM)
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(12-16-2012, 06:44 PM)
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(12-16-2012, 07:16 PM)
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OT4 is now up here:
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504385 |