[lazybones18]

With PS2 shipments coming to an end in Japan, I wonder how long it will be before HW numbers no longer appear

[electroplankton]

I wonder whether Bravely Default got some holiday boost so to bring it close to 300k units.

Total 3DS software in Media Create top 20: 903.444 Combining this with 21-30 sales for 3DS games according to Famitsu: around 1.046.000 So, around 200-230k of software have been sold outside of top 30 for 3DS. So, it's true that third parties are doing better on 3DS compared to DS. This is in sharp contrast with the graph Joshua posted earlier Around 15 millions of difference...but third parties are doing better! I'm wondering who's the software house lacking so much in sales :P And this is actually something I'd expand worldwide.

Third parties are doing much, much better, with a much better support of course.
As for total software, I think at this point Nintendo already released Pokémon Diamond / Pearl.

[Frillen]

Soooo CoD: Declassified >> CoD: Blops II Wii U? (I've asked before if this week was the release of Cod Wii U but I didn't see an answer si I don't know for sure)

Call of Duty on a Nintendo system with a userbase of 558k in Japan.

[Chris1964]

First day sellthrough

Fantasy Life - 50-60%
Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3 - 20%

[Spiegel]

Call of Duty on a Nintendo system with a userbase of 558k in Japan.

It's not like 'the worst game this year on a Sony system with an userbase of 1.11M in Japan' is a much better prospect

First day sellthrough Fantasy Life - 50-60% Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3 - 20%

FL might be able to ride the AC hype

[watershed]

First day sellthrough Fantasy Life - 50-60% Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3 - 20%

Nice sell through for Fantasy Life. It should clear its first shipment with ease then. I don't know if Level 5 was expecting better from IE given that its a compilation game.

[Bruno MB]

It's so weird to see a Level 5 game with such a high first day sell-through percentage. That's their Christmas present.

[herod]

It's not like 'the worst game this year on a Sony system with an userbase of 1.11M in Japan' is a much better prospect

one platform has been a bit more starved of new releases than the other, however

[electroplankton]

First day sellthrough Fantasy Life - 50-60% Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3 - 20%

Nice for Fantasy Life (one then must see how much they shipped).
Inazuma Eleven: usual business.

[Mpl90]

First day sellthrough Fantasy Life - 50-60% Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3 - 20%

Seeing such an high first day sellthrough for a Level 5 game is...strange :lol

[Aostia]

It's not like 'the worst game this year on a Sony system with an userbase of 1.11M in Japan' is a much better prospect

and it's not getting much better results, in fact.
or am I reading it wrong?

First day sellthrough Fantasy Life - 50-60% Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3 - 20%

usual ST% for Inazuma :D
curious about FL distribution, otherwise the first day could be misinterpreted.

[DrWong]

So can we expect a +100K first week, at least, for Fantasy Life? I'm betting on 120K/150K with a 250K shipment (out of my "ass Heavy" prediction)

[watershed]

Now that PS2 shipments have stopped in Japan the Vita will finally have room to breath! I'm predicting a sizable jump next week!

[electroplankton]

So can we expect a +100K first week, at least, for Fantasy Life? I'm betting on 120K/150K with a 250K shipment (out of my "ass Heavy" prediction)

I think that's too much.
Chris, give us some hints! :P

[CANLI]

I'm interested about buying Fantasy Life via eshop (and IE 1-2-3 too) but I'm too busy with this drug now (Animal Crossing, the game is so fun)

+ 5980 yen (eshop price) is too expensive while the price of AC is only 4800 yen..
So

[Hero of Legend]

What's up with Brownie Brown? I read that London Life was original a mobile or ROID game, and BB might've helped with the ROID NiNoKuni spin-off that looked like Mother.

BB is a 1st-party Nintendo developer, so this confuses me.

[deathcobra]

I'm interested about buying Fantasy Life via eshop (and IE 1-2-3 too) but I'm too busy with this drug now (Animal Crossing, the game is so fun) + 5980 yen (eshop price) is too expensive while the price of AC is only 4800 yen.. So

Amazing drug though!

And sooooo tempted by Fantasy Life. Anyone played?

[cw_sasuke]

First day sellthrough Fantasy Life - 50-60% Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3 - 20%

duckroll, plz post if you are okay xD

[Sammy Samusu]

40./46. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)

lol

[electroplankton]

What's up with Brownie Brown? I read that London Life was original a mobile or ROID game, and BB might've helped with the ROID NiNoKuni spin-off that looked like Mother. BB is a 1st-party Nintendo developer, so this confuses me.

They also developed two Mana games for Square Enix, and Blue Dragon Plus. Maybe they are rented to third parties to develop games on Nintendo platforms?

[Nirolak]

duckroll, plz post if you are okay xD

To duckroll's defense, maybe it shipped like 60K copies.

[Hero of Legend]

They also developed two Mana games for Square Enix, and Blue Dragon Plus. Maybe they are rented to third parties to develop games on Nintendo platforms?

I know that, but the whole mobile thing is what is confusing, I know about the two Pokemon iOS apps, but to let BB help out making any kind of non-Nintendo platform game is strange.

[electroplankton]

I know that, but the whole mobile thing is what is confusing, I know about the two Pokemon iOS apps, but to let BB help out making any kind of non-Nintendo platform game is strange.

Is that true, or just a rumor? Because I remember they developed Livly Garden for DS, which was the console version of a popular browser game.

[Aostia]

They also developed two Mana games for Square Enix, and Blue Dragon Plus. Maybe they are rented to third parties to develop games on Nintendo platforms?

From what I know, yes they are. As one of the Monolith Soft teams.

[Hero of Legend]

Is that true, or just a rumor? Because I remember they developed Livly Garden for DS, which was the console version of a popular browser game.

Might be a mere rumor, as I didn't notice any thing regarding mobile development on their website, no mention of the NiNoKuni ROID game at all.

[Joseph Flemming]

People are acting like the 3DS doesn't already have PS2 ports on it, cute.

Lol, I know... I love how they make veiled digs at the system. Going back to playing Tales of Abyss now.. ;)

[grimshawish]

First day sellthrough Fantasy Life - 50-60% Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3 - 20%

Level 5 would do well to buy lots and lots of Animal Crossing to sell on later at even.
Very well indeed :D

[extralite]

It's also true that Brain Training could be downloaded from eShop far more than all the other titles.

That's highly unlikely considering it's behind NSMB2 in the all time charts. NSMB2 barely misses the top 10 at 11 and AC is already number one, beating PKMARS and Denpa Ningen RPG. Kawashima isn't even in the top 20.

[thestopsign]

That's highly unlikely considering it's behind NSMB2 in the all time charts. NSMB2 barely misses the top 10 at 11 and AC is already number one, beating PKMARS and Denpa Ningen RPG. Kawashima isn't even in the top 20.

Not sure if this info is up elsewhere, but could you post the list?

[Nekki]

Around 15 millions of difference...but third parties are doing better! I'm wondering who's the software house lacking so much in sales :P

Amazing. Nintendo should be more than happy. They have far more benefit with this kind of model than the DS one, even though DS did receive a good amount of third party support. But keeping them happier means a better relationship and ecosystem overall.

[hiska-kun]

I've been reading a few japanese blogs (Azalyn, Tadapon, Osakaking...) and some of them talked about good Fantasy Life pre-orders. Even on COMG the game had 100pt.
I think a >100k opening is expected.

[JoshuaJSlone]

I think JoshuaJSlone put first party by mistake. http://garaph.info/softwaregroups.php You can see the ids on the chart S121 and S146 are for all software on Garaph.

Yeah, really bollocksed that one up. 3DS is in fact higher; the big overall difference is relatively low first party sales. Which still match everyone else.

[Cosmo Clock 21]

and it's not getting much better results, in fact. or am I reading it wrong?

I think the point was that if the Wii U port of CODBLOPS can't even outsell Declassified you done fucked up somewhere. Although the 360 version didn't chart either, so who knows what's going on.

[BKK]

Ha! Are people really bothering to argue over CoD PSV Vs WiiU? I bet import retail PC CoD outsold both combined.

Also funny how after years of knocking down every poster that pointed out that many (non-Nintendo) games also have digital sales (which allegedly next to nobody in Japan buys), we now have a mass of people pointing out WiiU digital sales as if no ever platform has had them before. Well, I guess fans of all platforms can now live in the digital world of make believe figures in harmony!

[Aostia]

Ha! Are people really bothering to argue over CoD PSV Vs WiiU? I bet import retail PC CoD outsold both combined. Also funny how after years of knocking down every poster that pointed out that many (non-Nintendo) games also have digital sales (which allegedly next to nobody in Japan buys), we now have a mass of people pointing out WiiU digital sales as if no ever platform has had them before. Well, I guess fans of all platforms can now live in the digital world of make believe figures in harmony!

In fact I simply think that they both sucked in terms of sales
about the DD version I agree, except for Animal Crossing maybe (combining direct DD and download cards)

I think the point was that if the Wii U port of CODBLOPS can't even outsell Declassified you done fucked up somewhere. Although the 360 version didn't chart either, so who knows what's going on.

COD Wii U is also available on another direct competitor platform as the PS3 that registered a good result for that game weeks ago, but I repeat: they both performed horribly and that's all, I think

[BKK]

about the DD version I agree, except for Animal Crossing maybe (combining direct DD and download cards)

Don't get me wrong, download cards are fine for comment (seeing as we apparently have at least one tracker that tracks them), my issue is with non-tracked DD.

[Scum]

I suppose I better change that 60k for Fantasy Life then. lol

[test_account]

I think the main reason is that with Ken Rage 2 beeing the only "big" PS3 title this December it really mainly is just a software problem. There simply wasn´t a big software release on PS3 this December and absolutely nothing from Sony. We also have to conisder that PSP is even 2 years older than PS3 and also the successor available while there is no indication that there´ll be a PS3 successor anytime soon and PSP still outsold PS3 thanks to stronger new releases.

Sure, software is also a part of it. But i think some really special software is needed at this point to boost the hardware sales a lot. Price was another reason. We'll see what happends when the PS3 costs 20k yen instead of 25k yen.

IIRC, someone estimated 70k eShop purchase (without download cards, of course) in the first week.

What was this estimate based on? Was it just guessing or are any official sales info available?

Lol, I know... I love how they make veiled digs at the system. Going back to playing Tales of Abyss now.. ;)

I dont think anyone made a dig at the system. It is true that remaking DQ8 for the 3DS would mean that it would look aproximately the same or worse than the PS2 version regarding graphics. Remakes are often made to have updated visuals. I dont think the earlier discussion was about a port, but about a remake. Tales of the Abyss 3DS is basically a PS2 port, not a remake.

[Man God]

Err no, TotA isn't even close to the best looking 3DS game.

They could probably remake DQ8 on the 3DS and have it blow the PS2 version out of the water.

[test_account]

Err no, TotA isn't even close to the best looking 3DS game. They could probably remake DQ8 on the 3DS and have it blow the PS2 version out of the water.

I didnt say that it was the best looking 3DS game, only that it is a port (meaning that they didnt really do much extra work on the visuals, as they would do if it was a remake. And i've heard that TOTA looks worse on the 3DS).

Does any 3DS games blow DQ8 out of the water now?

[Man God]

Resident Evil Revelations, Super Mario 3D Land, hell even the half remake half bad port job Snake Eater 3D.

[thehypocrite]

Ha! Are people really bothering to argue over CoD PSV Vs WiiU? I bet import retail PC CoD outsold both combined. Also funny how after years of knocking down every poster that pointed out that many (non-Nintendo) games also have digital sales (which allegedly next to nobody in Japan buys), we now have a mass of people pointing out WiiU digital sales as if no ever platform has had them before. Well, I guess fans of all platforms can now live in the digital world of make believe figures in harmony!

True, it's funny how they even use Miiverse posts as a reference for sales. When posters claimed that Vita titles may have 10% in digital sales they were attacked for making up numbers, now you have those same posters doing that and more, like poetry, full circle.

[electroplankton]

What was this estimate based on? Was it just guessing or are any official sales info available?

Estimation based on the discrepancy between the official numbers provided by Iwata and the figures from Famitsu.

True, it's funny how they even use Miiverse posts as a reference for sales. When posters claimed that Vita titles may have 10% in digital sales they were attacked for making up numbers, now you have those same posters doing that and more, like poetry, full circle.

Who?

[test_account]

Resident Evil Revelations, Super Mario 3D Land, hell even the half remake half bad port job Snake Eater 3D.

Those games look good indeed. From what i've seen of DQ7 remake however, it doesnt blow DQ8 graphics out of the water. I'm sceptical that they would be able to make a DQ8 remake on 3DS that would look a lot better, but it would be interesting the see anyway =)

Estimation based on the discrepancy between the official numbers provided by Iwata and the figures from Famitsu.

Ah ok.

[Spiegel]

Resident Evil Revelations, Super Mario 3D Land, hell even the half remake half bad port job Snake Eater 3D.

It doesn't seem like you have played DQ8 or even seen MGS3D.

RE:R and SML3D do look great but they don't blow top PS2 games out of the water. Unless all you are measuring is the capability of using shaders.

[electroplankton]

RE:R and SML3D do look great but they don't blow top PS2 games out of the water. Unless all you are measuring is the capability of using shaders.

The comparison doesn't make sense to begin with, because they both have small environments, when Dragon Quest VIII is basically open-world. Dragon Quest VII may be a more adequate game to compare with, but I'm sure Square Enix didn't push the console with it, being a remake.

[Man God]

MGS 3 actually has some rather large areas.

[hiska-kun]

Yes, it seems that there are only 2 interesting releases (Digimon Adventures and DmC: Devil May Cry). Besides the 3rd month of Animal Crossing: New Leaf we could also include Fantasy Life and Wii U hardware. Fantasy Life could be an interesting title to predict since we still won't know its first week sales. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf (28d) - [3DS] Fantasy Life (28d) - [PSP] Digimon Adventures (11d) - [PS3+360] DmC: Devil May Cry (11d) - [WIU] Hardware (28d) -

What about 3DS hardware?

[hardcastlemccormick]

True, it's funny how they even use Miiverse posts as a reference for sales. When posters claimed that Vita titles may have 10% in digital sales they were attacked for making up numbers, now you have those same posters doing that and more, like poetry, full circle.

Where is this? Not expecting a response from a hit and run, but.

MGS 3 actually has some rather large areas.

And also a very bad frame rate. DQ8 could be done, but it was certainly made for the PS2's strengths. The 3DS shares few of them.

[Little Green Yoda]

Where is this? Not expecting a response from a hit and run, but.

There were a few posters trying to guesstimate software sales in the last NPD thread based on Miiverse posts. Which is horribly unscientific since you can post in a community without owning the game and because not everybody who owns the game posts on Miiverse.