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Callibretto
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(03-12-2013, 05:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ricky_R

Many people seem to forget about this. SSM probably added it just to fuck with our minds and to leave the future open for anything, but come on. It's time for them to address GOW3's mysterious ending.

in gow director meeting video, when asked about gow 3 ending, stig said he already had some general idea about where the game could go in the future and he already put some stuff in gow 3 to support it.
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GOT IT IN ENGLISH!

SUN BIRD BULL LION SUN

Get on it, Detective GAF!

EDIT: Damn. This was already ciphered. Wasted my time lol.
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

GOT IT IN ENGLISH!

SUN BIRD BULL LION SUN

How likely is it that the BULL refers to the 8 GB GDDR5 RAM in the PS4? :p
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries

The iconic scenes of Mithras show him being born from a rock, slaughtering a bull, and sharing a banquet with the god Sol (the Sun).

One statue had its base perforated so that it could serve as a fountain and the base of another has the mask of the water god. Sometimes he also has other weapons like bows and arrows and there are also animals like dog, serpent, dolphin, eagle, some other birds, a lion, crocodile, lobster and snail around. On some reliefs, there is a bearded figure identified as Oceanus, the water god, and on some there are the four wind gods. In these reliefs, the four elements could be invoked together. Sometimes Victoria, Luna, Sol and Saturn also seem to play a role. Saturn particularly appears to hand over the dagger to Mithras so that he could perform his mighty deeds.

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EIGHT GIGABYTE GDDR5
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

GOT IT IN ENGLISH!

SUN BIRD BULL LION SUN

Get on it, Detective GAF!

EDIT: Damn. This was already ciphered. Wasted my time lol.

Great minds think alike :-D
ekim
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http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-Ni/Mithras.html

he Persians saw Mithras as the principal assistant of Ahura Mazda, the god of goodness and light. Mithras battled demons, sorcerers, and other evildoers and helped the souls of worthy humans. In another role, as a god of war, he rode in a golden chariot pulled by four horses.

Read more: http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-N...#ixzz2NL7Rr8Er

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(03-12-2013, 05:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by ekim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries

Originally Posted by ekim

http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-Ni/Mithras.html

Holy shit.
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(03-12-2013, 05:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

GOT IT IN ENGLISH!

SUN BIRD BULL LION SUN

Get on it, Detective GAF!

EDIT: Damn. This was already ciphered. Wasted my time lol.

SOLEIL OISEAU BOEUF LION SON SOLEIL in French.
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(03-12-2013, 05:28 PM)
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Mithras as the new God of War? BRING IT ON!!
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Soooo new hero confirmed?
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Originally Posted by darkwing

perhaps every language has a different cipher key

Could someone please give me the exact chapter where the painting can be found?

I saw it in my first playthrough and took a picture of it, but I had the game language set to English at the time, my copy is the English/Chinese/Korean version, I'd love to see if there's any difference in another language, but can't remember where the painting is......
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Originally Posted by Kifimbo

SOLEIL OISEAU BOEUF LION SON SOLEIL in French.

SOL PÁSSARO BÚFALO LEÃO SOL in Portuguese. :S Definitely doesnt fit.

Edit: WAIT. Bull = Touro not Búfalo, Im dumb. So it does fit I think.
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Callibretto
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http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-N...#ixzz2NL7Rr8Er
Some scholars identify Mithras with Mitra, a mythic figure of the Aryan peoples who invaded northern India around the l600s B . C . Mitra, the god of friendship, was associated with the sun and served as one of the judges of the dead. He was supposed to bring worthy people back to life after the universe ended. Some of Mitra's functions lingered in the developing mythology of Mithras.

fit nicely following gow 3 ending
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SOL AVE TORO LEON SOL --> Works as well in spanish.
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Originally Posted by ekim

http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-Ni/Mithras.html

Gad damn, nice find.
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Would be cool if we'd get to kill Kratos with the new hero.
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Originally Posted by LuuKyK

SOL PÁSSARO BÚFALO LEÃO SOL in Portuguese. :S Definitely doesnt fit.

Let me help with that. We should add keys to what we know of to help decipher in Portuguese.

Use this website to decipher: http://www.chaos.org.uk/~eddy/craft/substitute.html
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(03-12-2013, 05:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

GOT IT IN ENGLISH!

SUN BIRD BULL LION SUN

Get on it, Detective GAF!

EDIT: Damn. This was already ciphered. Wasted my time lol.

In spanish:
SOL AVE TORO LEON SOL
QJF LTO RJPJ FOJI QJF

yea I think that's it :D
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(03-12-2013, 05:32 PM)

Originally Posted by shagg_187

GOT IT IN ENGLISH!

SUN BIRD BULL LION SUN

Get on it, Detective GAF!

EDIT: Damn. This was already ciphered. Wasted my time lol.

QJFTRF JRQTEU CJTUN FRJH QJH QJFTRF
SOLEIL OISEAU BOEUF LION SON SOLEIL
Dusky
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(03-12-2013, 05:33 PM)
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If Mithras was a new hero, that'd be pretty awesome.

Edit: Good job btw Detective GAF.
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(03-12-2013, 05:33 PM)
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God of War Persia eh?
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Originally Posted by Dusky

If Mithras was a new hero, that'd be pretty awesome.

Mithras comes to drag Kratos' body at the end of GOW3 would be fucking crazy.

*dreams*
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(03-12-2013, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Callibretto

in gow director meeting video, when asked about gow 3 ending, stig said he already had some general idea about where the game could go in the future and he already put some stuff in gow 3 to support it.

Hmmm interesting. Watched all the behind the scenes videos, but I don't remember much of it. Was there a GAF detective thread or some info out about what were the things put on GOW3 to support his view on where the game could go on in the future?
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Originally Posted by Callibretto

http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-N...#ixzz2NL7Rr8Er
Some scholars identify Mithras with Mitra, a mythic figure of the Aryan peoples who invaded northern India around the l600s B . C . Mitra, the god of friendship, was associated with the sun and served as one of the judges of the dead. He was supposed to bring worthy people back to life after the universe ended. Some of Mitra's functions lingered in the developing mythology of Mithras.

fit nicely following gow 3 ending

So Kratos will be brought back to life and then we'll get to kill Mithras?
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(03-12-2013, 05:34 PM)
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wow detective GAF is the best
Kifimbo
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Thanks to everyone involved.

The key was really the three letters spanish word and six letters French word. SOL/SOLEIL is the only one I found.
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Originally Posted by Kifimbo

Thanks to everyone involved.

The key was really the three letters spanish word and six letters French word. SOL/SOLEIL is the only one I found.

Yeah, that was an awesome catch.
ekim
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(03-12-2013, 05:35 PM)
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And portuguese:
SOL PASSARO TOURO LEAO SOL --> fits
crispyben
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Originally Posted by Kifimbo

SOLEIL OISEAU BOEUF LION SON SOLEIL in French.

Could the QJH that gives SON be a typo since the letters around are so similar (JHQJHQJF)?
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Originally Posted by ekim

http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-Ni/Mithras.html

In another role, as a god of war,

Wow.
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Originally Posted by ekim

And portuguese:
SOL PASSARO TOURO LEAO SOL --> fits

There you go!

*BOOM*
Kifimbo
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Originally Posted by crispyben

Could the QJH that gives SON be a typo since the letter around are so similar (JHQJHQJF)?

Yeah, otherwise it doesn't make sense. Can't believe we also found a mistake.
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Have the same in portuguese:

M H D I L M M L K H N H O K H D R L H M H D

S O L P A S S A R O T O U R O L E A O S O L

Sol = Sun
Passaro = Bird
Touro = Bull
Leao = Lion

edit: beaten.
Sid
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But why hint at this now when GoW 4 is years away?
LuuKyK
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Originally Posted by ekim

And portuguese:
SOL PASSARO TOURO LEAO SOL --> fits

Wow, it really does. Cool.
Callibretto
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Originally Posted by Sid

So Kratos will be brought back to life and then we'll get to kill Mithras?

well the humans are basically all dead by the end of gow3, all you see is their souls. so 2 scenarios could happen

1. mitras resurrect worthy humans, athena not wanting mitras to control humanity grab Kratos and somehow resurrect him to battle Mitras

2. Mitras saw Kratos as worthy and bring him back to life, ask Kratos to do something for him for the reward of resurrecting his family. something like that
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This one didn't take long, congrats detective gaf.
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GAF wins again.
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Originally Posted by Sid

But why hint at this now when GoW 4 is years away?

Inter-quel, maybe? A new portable God of War seems like a possibility.
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Originally Posted by ekim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries

Originally Posted by Callibretto

http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-N...#ixzz2NL7Rr8Er
Some scholars identify Mithras with Mitra, a mythic figure of the Aryan peoples who invaded northern India around the l600s B . C . Mitra, the god of friendship, was associated with the sun and served as one of the judges of the dead. He was supposed to bring worthy people back to life after the universe ended. Some of Mitra's functions lingered in the developing mythology of Mithras.

fit nicely following gow 3 ending

This must be it

Well done GAF
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They still have plenty of Greek gods leftover for the next game, they don't have to jump into another mythology.
Margalis
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One possibility is that it is a string of acronyms. QUJ means “reversing a bearing” and IK is an animation term “Inverse Kinesis” EEE may mean E3 and PHI may mean the Greek letter. But together they still don’t make much sense.


IK stands for "inverse kinematics", not "inverse kinesis."

<Insert "the more you know" jingle>
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Zoroastrianism is an interesting religion; I am intrigued.
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Originally Posted by Yasumi

Inter-quel, maybe? A new portable God of War seems like a possibility.

Not a chance,this is seemingly much bigger than that.I could be wrong though OFC.
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So to compile for OP:

English: SUN BIRD BULL LION SUN
French: SOLEIL OISEAU BOEUF LION SON SOLEIL
Portuguese: SOL PASSARO TOURO LEAO SOL
Spanish: SOL AVE TORO LEON SOL

One of the things that these are all common to is Mithras:

http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-Ni/Mithras.html

"The Persians saw Mithras as the principal assistant of Ahura Mazda, the god of goodness and light. Mithras battled demons, sorcerers, and other evildoers and helped the souls of worthy humans. In another role, as a god of war, he rode in a golden chariot pulled by four horses."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries

"The iconic scenes of Mithras show him being born from a rock, slaughtering a bull, and sharing a banquet with the god Sol (the Sun). One statue had its base perforated so that it could serve as a fountain and the base of another has the mask of the water god. Sometimes he also has other weapons like bows and arrows and there are also animals like dog, serpent, dolphin, eagle, some other birds, a lion, crocodile, lobster and snail around. On some reliefs, there is a bearded figure identified as Oceanus, the water god, and on some there are the four wind gods. In these reliefs, the four elements could be invoked together. Sometimes Victoria, Luna, Sol and Saturn also seem to play a role. Saturn particularly appears to hand over the dagger to Mithras so that he could perform his mighty deeds."

http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Mi-N...#ixzz2NL7Rr8Er

"Some scholars identify Mithras with Mitra, a mythic figure of the Aryan peoples who invaded northern India around the l600s B . C . Mitra, the god of friendship, was associated with the sun and served as one of the judges of the dead. He was supposed to bring worthy people back to life after the universe ended. Some of Mitra's functions lingered in the developing mythology of Mithras."
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Kifimbo
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The French version is also weird because Bull is Taureau, not Boeuf.
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Originally Posted by Sid

But why hint at this now when GoW 4 is years away?

Only God knows what is really happening inside Sony first party studios. Some of them have mentioned that they working on new IP's (Stig even confirmed it on an interview before last E3), but we don't really know if plans changed or if Sony put pressure to keep working on a certain franchise (GOW for example).

Who knows if Stig stopped working on whatever he was working and was tasked to make GOW4 for PS4 considering he did an amazing job creating epic spectacles, boss battles and set-pieces with GOW3, and the game is more advanced than we imagined? I know it's a stretch, but still possible.

Imagine an opening more epic and with more scale than GOW3's on the PS4.
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Excellent job, Kijimbo. How'd you figure out that those letters in various languages meant sun?
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Originally Posted by Kifimbo

The French version is also weird because Bull is Taureau, not Boeuf.

Must've gotten lost in translation. The idea is the same though.

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