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Thread in question: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=538986
Article in question: http://kotaku.com/game-developers-re...-boy-472724616
Response: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&type=1&ref=nf

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Originally Posted by George Kamitani

It seems that Mr. JASON SCHREIER of kotaku is pleased also with neither sorceress nor amazon.
The art of the direction which likes was prepared.



Thanks to Badoor for posting it.
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Metalmurphy
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(04-23-2013, 10:54 AM)
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That was an actual article?

So Kotaku articles are now reduced to blog like whines?
michaelius
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(04-23-2013, 10:56 AM)

Originally Posted by Metalmurphy

That was an actual article?

So Kotaku articles are now reduced to blog like whines?

You mean there was a time when they weren't blog like whines?
Zemm
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(04-23-2013, 10:58 AM)
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Awful article but I'm sure he'll come in here and link to all the 'good' ones kotaku have made this week, so there is that.
Glass Rebel
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(04-23-2013, 10:59 AM)
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Yup, looks like Kotaku.
Burger
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(04-23-2013, 10:59 AM)
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Hahaha
QisTopTier
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(04-23-2013, 10:59 AM)
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Best response ever
Ratrat
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(04-23-2013, 10:59 AM)
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Gross.
Anteater
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(04-23-2013, 11:00 AM)
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But will they be playable?
EDarkness
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(04-23-2013, 11:01 AM)
I kind of agree with Kotaku on this one. The art for the game is straight up silly. It kinda crosses that line for me. The response from the George guy was all kinds of classy. Seems he doesn't like criticism.
miladesn
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(04-23-2013, 11:02 AM)
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that looks great, possible DLC concept? :P
Burger
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Originally Posted by EDarkness

I kind of agree with Kotaku on this one. The art for the game is straight up silly. It kinda crosses that line for me. The response from the George guy was all kinds of classy. Seems he doesn't like criticism.

That's sort of tough shit though isn't it?

Who cares if it's silly? Perhaps it's supposed to be silly? It's just a big pair of tits. It's like saying Elvira is crossing a line because she's buxom.
Metalmurphy
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(04-23-2013, 11:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by michaelius

You mean there was a time when they weren't blog like whines?

Well to be fair, I only read them when I post them here, but they're usually a bit more detailed than that.
Dead Man
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(04-23-2013, 11:03 AM)
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So the response is 'Haha u r gay'? Regardless of the merits of the article, that is pretty pathetic.

And now having read the article, and seen the damn character, I can only agree with Schreier. Who would have thought that was possible?
Clov
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Originally Posted by EDarkness

I kind of agree with Kotaku on this one. The art for the game is straight up silly. It kinda crosses that line for me. The response from the George guy was all kinds of classy. Seems he doesn't like criticism.

Or you know, he's just joking around? The whole thing is silly, isn't it? I don't think George is taking the "article" (more of a blurb, really) quite seriously.
Goldmund
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(04-23-2013, 11:04 AM)
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If this is supposed to be read as "You probably find men attractive, ha!", that's all kinds of offensive.
BlackIronCount
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(04-23-2013, 11:04 AM)
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lol awesome response
Uncle Rupee
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(04-23-2013, 11:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by EDarkness

I kind of agree with Kotaku on this one. The art for the game is straight up silly. It kinda crosses that line for me. The response from the George guy was all kinds of classy. Seems he doesn't like criticism.

I'm guessing you haven't seen any of the fantasy artwork by Frank Frazetta that inspired most of the fantasy art from D&D and stuff?

Oh, and by the way J. Schreier apparently has terrible taste in art. Kamitani is a god. But by all means, J, bitch about the one company producing the most glorious 2D artwork seen in videogames ever.
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henhowc
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well the argument from kotaku commenters when you ask them why they post certain weird articles is that they ARE NOT A NEWS SITE THEY ARE A BLOG.

so going with that...this shit fits perfectly.
Superflat
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(04-23-2013, 11:06 AM)
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Perhaps game development studios should stop hiring teenagers? At least they're cheap, I guess.

Wow.
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(04-23-2013, 11:07 AM)
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Schreier sounds like a complete douchebag. Perhaps I'm missing something.
EDarkness
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(04-23-2013, 11:07 AM)

Originally Posted by Burger

That's sort of tough shit though isn't it?

Who cares if it's silly? Perhaps it's supposed to be silly? It's just a big pair of tits. It's like saying Elvira is crossing a line because she's buxom.

Maybe it is, but doesn't mean that we can't have an opinion about it. So many folks are ready to jump on someone who doesn't agree with them on this. In my opinion (as I said), I don't like it and it comes off as exploiting women a bit. You like it? Great.
monome
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"quote"?
SmokyDave
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(04-23-2013, 11:07 AM)
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Blog writers need to stop assuming that the only people that sexualised characters appeal to are teenage boys. It's offensive.
MuseManMike
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(04-23-2013, 11:08 AM)
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The grounded title of the this thread may prevent some of the excess that would otherwise surely come.

I saw the Sorceress as someone's avatar and didn't believe it was real. Irrespective of my feelings, it seems like a response appropriate for Kotaku. It's the 'Do you eat shit' in concept-art form.
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Originally Posted by Goldmund

If this is supposed to be read as "You probably find men attractive, ha!", that's all kinds of offensive.

It can't really be saying anything else, surely?
Ratrat
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Originally Posted by EDarkness

I kind of agree with Kotaku on this one. The art for the game is straight up silly. It kinda crosses that line for me. The response from the George guy was all kinds of classy. Seems he doesn't like criticism.

Well it's pretty insulting if you ask me. Response seems a bit homophobic though...
henhowc
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is this going to turn into another of those threads where scheirer pops in and "defends" himself? haha

(i don't really have any problems with the article)
Espada
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Originally Posted by henhowc

well the argument from kotaku commenters when you ask them why they post certain weird articles is that they ARE NOT A NEWS SITE THEY ARE A BLOG.

so going with that...this shit fits perfectly.

Wait, that's how Kotaku deals with criticism about their content and its quality? That's pretty sad if true.
Shinta
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(04-23-2013, 11:08 AM)

Originally Posted by Riposte

Schreier sounds like a complete douchebag. Perhaps I'm missing something.

You're not, trust me.
michaelius
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(04-23-2013, 11:08 AM)

Originally Posted by Goldmund

If this is supposed to be read as "You probably find men attractive, ha!", that's all kinds of offensive.

More like - "here's some Marcus Fenix looks alike you guys want in all your western games"
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Originally Posted by QisTopTier

Best response ever

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Varth
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(04-23-2013, 11:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Riposte

Schreier sounds like a complete douchebag. Perhaps I'm missing something.

It's not like the response is any better, eh.

Anyway, Kamitani's art is all kinds of awesome.

Originally Posted by EDarkness

Maybe it is, but doesn't mean that we can't have an opinion about it. So many folks are ready to jump on someone who doesn't agree with them on this. In my opinion (as I said), I don't like it and it comes off as exploiting women a bit. You like it? Great.

Well then, Kamitani's reply is perfect. He also exploited the men!
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So he's making fun of J Schreier by implying he is gay? Sounds like something a 14yo would do. I have to agree on the female char being shit though. Maybe I'm gay as well.
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dan2026
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I like boobs.

And I think the over the top art design is great.

More like this please!
EDarkness
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(04-23-2013, 11:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Uncle Rupee

I'm guessing you haven't seen any of the fantasy artwork by Frank Frazetta that inspired most of the fantasy art from D&D and stuff?

Of course I've seen his stuff, but my feeling about it is the same. I have a lot of respect for Frank's work, but I just feel like this is a different level entirely. Some people are gonna like it, but it should stand to reason that others won't.
sleepykyo
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Schreier was serious? I thought that was a tongue in cheek article.

edit:

I'm still trying to figure out Kamitani's response. Was supposed to be a homophobic response or more like if you're complaining about uneven sexualization, I'm more than happy to sex up the men as well?
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Anteater
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was Jessica Rabbit designed by a 12 year old too
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(04-23-2013, 11:10 AM)
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article is obviously bad and mean-spirited to a ridiculous level

but so the answer to it is "lol ur gay" ?
orioto
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Originally Posted by Dead Man

So the response is 'Haha u r gay'? Regardless of the merits of the article, that is pretty pathetic.

And now having read the article, and seen the damn character, I can only agree with Schreier. Who would have thought that was possible?

I agree with the first part of your comment, the answer is pretty ambiguous.. The "which likes" part especially.

But the "article" saying an actual art style, even caricaturish, is kiddy, when it clearly has some deep cultural roots and great aesthetics.. That was pretty ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by SmokyDave

Blog writers need to stop assuming that the only people that sexualised characters appeal to are teenage boys. It's offensive.

Other people need to stop thinking that not liking a particular depiction of a character means you are gay, or that there is something wrong with that. I have no problem with the design existing, I think it's bad, but so what? But the response was pathetic.

Originally Posted by orioto

I agree with the first part of your comment, the answer is pretty ambiguous.. The "which likes" part especially.

But the "article" saying an actual art style, even caricaturish, is kiddy, when it clearly has some deep cultural roots and great aesthetics.. That was pretty ridiculous.

It's an opinion on an art style, there will never be a right answer. Calling out someone for having an opinion is not really going to achieve much. It certainly won't convince anyone you are not a juvenile idiot when the result is an utterly juvenile homophobic bullshit comment like that.
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Zemm
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Originally Posted by Riposte

Schreier sounds like a complete douchebag. Perhaps I'm missing something.

You're not. I'm kinda surprised he gets away with his PR on here when that Tony guy from amazon (rightfully) got a ban for doing the same.
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(04-23-2013, 11:10 AM)
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Type "big tits" in Google, they really do exist.
Kajiba
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Lmao
Papercuts
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While the article in question is dumb and insulting to the artist, coming right back with a blatant sexual orientation jab is in very poor form.
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Zangief is such a bear.

People who think this is a sexual orientation jab are like WHOOSH missing the point by a parsec.
Shinta
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(04-23-2013, 11:11 AM)

Originally Posted by Goldmund

If this is supposed to be read as "You probably find men attractive, ha!", that's all kinds of offensive.

Is it less offensive to mock anyone who finds breasts attractive? It's "juvenile" if you like any erotic art now. Somehow it's become perfectly fine to mock people's sexuality and sexual expression if they're straight males. It's actually considered progressive.
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Originally Posted by Audioboxer

Type "big tits" in Google, they really do exist.

Who hasn't done this before
Metalmurphy
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I'd wait for a proper translation before saying he's calling anyone gay...

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