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kazebyaka
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(10-27-2013, 07:48 PM)
From the Reddit :
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/commen..._the_industry/

I am one of the reviewers being affected by this
i will not give out my name or which review site i work for, because i don't want to risk getting found out
Essentially, what the problem is, is that the big devs for next gen consoles are adopting a new policy (and by "big devs" i mean almost every dev for the new consoles at launch)
Essentially, the policy does two things. First, if we want to make a review, we have to send it to the company of the game being reviewed and get the review accepted before we can publish it without it being taken down. Secondly, it makes it so that we have to sign terms with companies before reviewing their games.
The reason this is only affecting SOME of us, is because we are assigned games each, and some of us have to go out and sign these policies with the publishers before we can do a review. The problem here, is that some publishers (Such as EA and Ubisoft) are making us play their games in their studios, under their supervision, and on their consoles. One dev required that I had to go to the studio and watch one of the developers play the game while i watched and took notes which would then be published as a review (that would have to be accepted by the dev first.)
The reason Sessler is upset, is because he doesn't think this is Morally acceptable. He wants to review games how he likes, but since developers are making us do silly thiungs like watch them play, he's upset and doesn't wanna be a part of this big "scandal" (as Sessler told me) that they are putting on, which would essentially turn "Reviews" into "Advertisements".
you could say he's overreacting and being childish, but as someone who has worked with him before, i can really understand why he's so angry. I'm angry too, you know.

Mock, if old
Recon
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(10-27-2013, 07:50 PM)
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Holy shit if true.
Qblivion
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(10-27-2013, 07:50 PM)
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I find this pretty difficult to believe.
Gumball
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(10-27-2013, 07:50 PM)
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Wow that's pretty shitty if true.
Wrynnax
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(10-27-2013, 07:50 PM)
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Wow what?!? Seriously crappy move if true!
Requiem
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(10-27-2013, 07:50 PM)
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Wow that sounds terrible....

If the reviewer just waits until the game is out, would they still have to follow these provisions?
jschreier
(10-27-2013, 07:50 PM)
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This is not true.
UNCMark
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(10-27-2013, 07:50 PM)
Wait what? Publishers have to approve a review? Is that legal?
AniHawk
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Rather sarcastic to boot.
(10-27-2013, 07:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Qblivion

I find this pretty difficult to believe.

on the other hand, this sounds like a really really really believable thing to me.
TheCloser
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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The storm approacheth.
c3t
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)

Originally Posted by jschreier

This is not true.

Bam.
Geek
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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Bullshit.

Poorly written fan wank that makes no sense. C'mon.
Freki
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

This is not true.

So Sessler is upset about something different?
fvng
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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Doubtful, besides I don't trust super anonymous posts like that, but if that was true, they'd have every reason to be angry
mcfrank
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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Just buy the game and review it after the fact.
Kherion
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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if we want to make a review, we have to send it to the company of the game being reviewed and get the review accepted before we can publish it without it being taken down.

Wow. That's very hard to believe.
DoctorWho
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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Hard to know if true but no one should sign to that. Just wait for games to release and buy one in store, then do the review.
coldone
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
It is all the metacrtic pressure. Few dumb ass reviewers who give critically low numbers to get high metacritic hits.. brought this upon them selves. Now the pendulum has swing completely the opposite way.
Currygan
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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if that's true, then the mountain of shit called "gaming journalism" just reached Himalayan levels

hopefully John Walker scribbles down a poisonous column about this, if true
Iacobellis
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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Very shitty. Hopefully this only applies to launch.

But, why the fuck is it happening?
Theecliff
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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One dev required that I had to go to the studio and watch one of the developers play the game while i watched and took notes which would then be published as a review (that would have to be accepted by the dev first.)

What the hell?
Huff
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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stop posting stupid shit from reddit 4chan my ass etc
Derrick01
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(10-27-2013, 07:51 PM)
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If this is true then the only question is what will most reviewers do about this? Will they actually come up with some way to stop this from happening like buying their own games (probably not the best idea for the long term) or will they whine and stomp around about how unfair and awful it is and then fly out to the events, then demand to be taken seriously as journalists when the forum users call them out for their bullshit?

I think I know which one I'm going with.
jbug617
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

This is not true.

Lock it up.
Certinty
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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If true, then what a joke this industry is turning into.
Rapstah
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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There's legally no way they could make people follow this after the game launches.
Rock Gotti
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
From Reddit so.... Pinch of salt?
AppleMIX
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

This is not true.

Well, I guess its time to wrap it up.
Salex_
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Sounds horrible if true.
Loudninja
No oxygen in space?
How does the sun burn?
Food for thought.
(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Wow reddict stuff again.
fvng
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by mcfrank

Just buy the game and review it after the fact.

That doesn't give their viewers/readers enough time to make a decision on whether they should buy a game on day one. If it takes them a week to play a game and write a review, those reviews wouldn't be out until a week after release. How is that practical?
Kouriozan
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

This is not true.

Phew, I was scared for a second.
plasmawave
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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MormaPope
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

This is not true.

Thank you for being upfront about this, hopefully people won't take that review rumor seriously.
hank_tree
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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This is just for video reviews,right?

Edit: Never mind. Nothing see to see here.
Cohiba
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
Sounds believable but it could easily have been written by someone who wants to stir up trouble. It sounds a lot like the NFL reddit post from a few days ago.
Brinbe
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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that's motherfucking disgusting... I can understand Sess' hesitation now. I wouldn't want to be a part of that too.
AndreasWs
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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What the hell!? Can't be true, just can't.
Ocelott
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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This sounds like total bullshit
Alien Bob
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(10-27-2013, 07:52 PM)
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How can anyone read that shit and believe it.
BRocknRolla
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

This is not true.

Fascinating to see the push back. So the whole thing on Reddit is BS? (You're one of the few people around here who can have meaningful input on this rumor, so thank you.)
Sn4ke_911
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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WTF?
Yasir
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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BS101.

ieatzombies
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by jschreier

This is not true.

The end.
Neuromancer
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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big devs for next gen consoles

Yeah right. What video game reviewer doesn't know the difference between a developer and a publisher?
The_Monk
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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Thank you forposting fellow GAFfer. If true then those conditions are really unacceptable to be honest. They want to control everything, play their own way on their own console at their own place. It seems that they are afraid that their games will have issues and they try to minimize most of them by controlling everything.
AquaMotley
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)

you could say he's overreacting and being childish

If all of that is true how could anyone ever say he's overreacting. Jesus!
EuropeOG
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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Even written reviews? Or just video?

If video just post reviews with no footage.
notworksafe
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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Anonymous reddit poster is no more reliable than anonymous 4chan poster. Get outta here with that junk.
Cirekiller
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(10-27-2013, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho

Hard to know if true but no one should sign to that. Just wait for games to release and buy one in store, then do the review.

Yes, if journalists all take a stand against this, the backlash will be put upon the publishers not them. Of course that would require them to actually grow some balls and cooperate with each other..

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