Pretty spot on, my friend...Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy
Well, here's my input into this whole debacle.
I've played Forza 5 for about 15 hours in total and earned about 1,000,000 credits. I also play with no assists and hardest drivatars.
I was initially bummed about the no free cars, no selling cars and high prices, but it feels like not having so much freedom has actually given me better focus on what I do have to drive.
I started off with a Honda civic and to keep my payouts high, the next car I bought was a Honda NSX-R to keep my affinity rating/bonus rising.
I've done the vast majority of my racing in the NSX and after starting out being absolutely incapable of even cornering with a rear wheel drive car at speed I know that thing inside out and have now started getting so good with it that I can set top 5% times with it. Its also the first time I've spent hours messing with properly tuning/testing my upgrades instead of just running to a new car when I can't go faster.
I redeemed my 3,000,000 credit and free car reward this morning, yet I've spent this evening lapping and racing in my NSX-R. Not spent a penny or touched any of the new cars.
It feels like that car is way more...' important' to me than cars have been in previous Forza games. Its nowhere near easy to drive and even though I know I could probably find another car to compete with the Ferraris/koennigseggs and McLaren F1s the game keep throwing at me, it feels like 'my' car in Forza 5.....from the time spent driving it to learning how to set it up how I like.
When I save up my credits for the super expensive cars I want to buy (the lotus e21 pls) I guess ill have the same feeling of attachment.
By this time in previous Forza games id have a bunch of cars id be either swapping/ignoring/only using for one race/buying parts for and not tuning them at all.
For reference of how I race, I spend most of my time in free play doing races with high number of laps, trying to drive as clean as possible, then watching replays of the races. The same thing I do with my other favourite racing game Project Cars. I only drive the Formula B in that game.
For the more casual guy, I guess this system is obviously going to play on impatience, but imo as long as the progression system doesn't actually make it impossible to buy the cars you want, its not a problem for me. Like I said, two, weeks to get 1,000,000 credits means that I can easily unlock the cars that I want before year end.
Yes its more of a grind, but longer progression systems aren't inherently bad and in my case its done some good for me I'm terms of how I treat Forza games and the cars I have.
Just my 'pinion.
check in would've been unnoticed if you're like most gamers and log in as you turn the system on. The other two things you mentioned are conjecture. No court would uphold that a publisher could take away ownership.Originally Posted by Leondexter
Neither. I'm talking about "the original vision of the Xbox One" that you mentioned, which was constant online DRM checks, "ownership" at the publisher's discretion, and virtually guaranteed eventual loss of your purchases.
Nothing wrong with digital. It's DRM that fucks it all up, and Microsoft was aiming to use the worst possible kind of DRM.
the checkins would've been necessary. otherwise people would rip a disc, and give it away or sell it. double dipping for themselves.
The gaming journalists of the biggest newspaper (and most visited website) in Norway calls for a boycott.

Tranlation:
"-Boycott this game"
"A lot of people rage against Forza 5".

Tranlation:
"-Boycott this game"
"A lot of people rage against Forza 5".
Last edited by Amused; Today at 01:53 PM.
Glad I never jumped on this franchise.
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