(pages late)Originally Posted by BrodiemanTTR
I'm just glad Nintendo is finally releasing an online game that allows you to play with strangers instead of forcing you to use friend codes.
This explains a lot.
This game's looking better, but I'm still skeptical...
This explains a lot.
This explains a lot.
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Definitely looking fwd to this,
BUT,
this thread made me think of Excite Truck 2: ONLINE!
That would be the best thing ever.
*dies*
BUT,
this thread made me think of Excite Truck 2: ONLINE!
That would be the best thing ever.
*dies*
According to the hands-on impressions, we know it's possible to have a 2-player split-screen online.Originally Posted by AdventureRacing
With 4 player split screen can u do that online? Playing with 3 mates online against a bunch of people would be fucking awesome.
If snaking is gone, i'm there day one.
I had lost interest in the franchise, but i'm kinda positive again now. :D
I had lost interest in the franchise, but i'm kinda positive again now. :D
Agreed.Originally Posted by Model 500
Definitely looking fwd to this,
BUT,
this thread made me think of Excite Truck 2: ONLINE!
That would be the best thing ever.
*dies*
I want some more EXCITE, too bad i fear it will never happen. :(
Ah ok, i didnt know it was Japan only. Good that they have an option there atleast :) I can see that the Wii Zapper will be used for lightgun games often, but i have more doubts about the wheel.Originally Posted by Phife Dawg
Zapper bundles (not counting LCT) are Japan only as of now and I doubt that'll change in the forseeable future. And just like the zapper I think the wheel will find it's audience and it also gets the idea of how to control the game over better. A lot of people have difficulty in grasping the possibilities of the WiiMote - zapper and wheel take care of that.
I know that this wheel wont make too much of a difference in the big picture, but this is not a good way to think though. Its like if you throw some garbage on the street and think "its only a small piece of paper, it doesnt matter that much". If everyone does it, it will be alot of garbage. Even if these wheels wont count for that much in the big pictures, alot of small things together will in the end be something big. If every company changes small things it will be a bigger change in the end.Originally Posted by Phife Dawg
I share your general concern regarding plastic but if you think a couple of million plastic wheels will make a difference in the big picture either way you're in for a hell of a surprise if you read stuff on the subject.
I know they bundle it to get it out there, i said so myself earlier :)Originally Posted by Phife Dawg
As for having the option - the whole idea is to get these peripherals to as many people as possible. That's why Nintendo is driving these with their big IPs. Once a lot of people have said attachement you can base products on it. Case in point: WiiZapper. If it was just the zapper without LCT bundled not a lot of people would've bought it and likewise other products like GS, RE:UC.
As i mentioned earlier, i think the Wii Zapper will be used more when it comes to light gun games compared to how much the wheel will be used for Mario Kart (or any other racing games for that matter). But of course, its impossible to say now. For all i know alot of people might use the wheel alot. And just for the record, i dont think Nintendo is some evil plastic producing empire because of these wheels hehe :P As said, this wheel isnt a too bad of an idea, and of course, Nintendo should be allowed to make their products the way they want like everyone else, but i have a small feeling that this wheel wont be used that much by the majority, but then again, its impossible to say at the present time. But still, i wouldnt mind if there was an option to buy the wheel or not :)Originally Posted by test_account
I can understand that Nintendo doesnt sell Link's Crossbow Training separately though (atleast i think its not sold separately), since they want to get the zapper out there.
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Awesome grammar from Ricardo Torres. See IGN, its not so hard.Originally Posted by schuelma
Gamespot impressions:
http://www.gamespot.com/wii/driving/...s&subj=6186170
Sakurai does what Nintendon't.Originally Posted by Log4Girlz
I wish Mario Kart was more like Smash Bros. and give you a shit ton of options on how to play...would be nice to recreate the SNES experience by altering rules and items present.
Mario Kart's online component destroys Smash Bros..Sakurai does what Nintendon't.
No Baby Park??? :(
;( baby park is best mariokart track ever.Originally Posted by sinnergy
No Baby Park??? :(
Don't know about that but it's great fun for sure. You never know who wins (that's MK, but on Baby Park even more)Originally Posted by shaft
;( baby park is best mariokart track ever.
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
(02-20-2008, 01:07 PM)
Who said no Baby Park? There are 8 old courses that haven't been revealed yet.Originally Posted by sinnergy
No Baby Park??? :(
I want to know if you can play four players offline with cpu karts. It wasn't possible in Double Dash, only two.
Some support for downloadable tracks and/or some track creating&sharing would have been totally fucking awesome :(
They could potentially release that as a downloadable application through the Mario Kart Channel. Maybe.Originally Posted by Jocchan
Some support for downloadable tracks and/or some track creating&sharing would have been totally fucking awesome :(
I doubt anything like that is planned, or else we'd already know :(Originally Posted by SovanJedi
They could potentially release that as a downloadable application through the Mario Kart Channel. Maybe.
But,... but... but...Snaking is so cool...Originally Posted by sinnergy
Don't know about that but it's great fun for sure. You never know who wins (that's MK, but on Baby Park even more)
:lol
Babypark is my favorite track. We played it for around 3h last time we played Mario Kart. Great fun!
Actually 4 players off-line in MK:DD!!'s Grandprix was possible, but with just 2 cars. It was 2+2 teams.Originally Posted by Teppic
I want to know if you can play four players offline with cpu karts. It wasn't possible in Double Dash, only two.
I'm almost certain you can. There's a 4 player split-screen shot floating around with positions lower then 4th place..Originally Posted by Teppic
I want to know if you can play four players offline with cpu karts. It wasn't possible in Double Dash, only two.
Man I can't wait for this game! I think I may be anticipating it more then Smash :D
I really hope the game feels more like DS/64 than DD in the controls department.
I doubt Baby Park will be back a 3rd time which is ashame. I really want Royal Raceway back from MK64. Love the narrow long course and massive jump.
True. Even for Mario Strikers Charged it would have been great. Nintendo has to release a external HD and add downloadable content to their online games.Originally Posted by Jocchan
Some support for downloadable tracks and/or some track creating&sharing would have been totally fucking awesome :(
By the way, is there any info about the existence or not of snaking in the game?
I think it was possible with two GC, though... Don't remember well (8 players was a nice thing if you had everything you needed fotr this)Originally Posted by SuomiDude
Actually 4 players off-line in MK:DD!!'s Grandprix was possible, but with just 2 cars. It was 2+2 teams.
By the way, are GC games using network adaptor compatible with Wii network (WiFi or wired) ? Have somebody tried ?
Old snaking is gone, since the left-right-left-right move has been removed. You need now to do long slides to get the boost. So you can say that snaking is gone, yes (though it may still be possible to do long powerslides in straigh lines, I guess, with skills)Originally Posted by Another Joe
By the way, is there any info about the existence or not of snaking in the game?
I'm just thinking along the same lines as that track/car editor add-on pack for F-Zero X that was released on the 64DD, a fair while after the original game came out.Originally Posted by Jocchan
I doubt anything like that is planned, or else we'd already know :(
I'm just saying, it may not be announced now, but it could happen in the future. Keep the dream alive, e.t.c.
Of course if that happened you'd probably have to pay extra for it... :(
Oh I do my part, moreso than other people. I don't buy (plastic) bottled water etc. And compared to that a couple of plastic wheels (which I think will be put to use by the majority of people) are really nothing worth mentioning.Originally Posted by test_account
I know that this wheel wont make too much of a difference in the big picture, but this is not a good way to think though. Its like if you throw some garbage on the street and think "its only a small piece of paper, it doesnt matter that much". If everyone does it, it will be alot of garbage. Even if these wheels wont count for that much in the big pictures, alot of small things together will in the end be something big. If every company changes small things it will be a bigger change in the end.
As i mentioned earlier, i think the Wii Zapper will be used more when it comes to light gun games compared to how much the wheel will be used for Mario Kart (or any other racing games for that matter). But of course, its impossible to say now. For all i know alot of people might use the wheel alot. And just for the record, i dont think Nintendo is some evil plastic producing empire because of these wheels hehe :P As said, this wheel isnt a too bad of an idea, and of course, Nintendo should be allowed to make their products the way they want like everyone else, but i have a small feeling that this wheel wont be used that much by the majority, but then again, its impossible to say at the present time. But still, i wouldnt mind if there was an option to buy the wheel or not :)
As I said, seeing that people buy absolutely worthless accessories like tennis rackets (ad nothing to the controls) for their WiiMotes makes me a firm believer in my theory. Try out a wheel with ET, it feels different.
Some pics:
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I'm loving the 8-Bit references all over the place :-)Originally Posted by CubeRevolution
Some pics:
This is the shit you get an Wii for! Awesome!
Excite Truck 2 needs a destruction derby mode for 4-players. That was one of the hidden gems of the first game.Originally Posted by Mdk7
Agreed.
I want some more EXCITE, too bad i fear it will never happen. :(
Baby Park is not the best Mario Kart track but IMHO it CERTAINLY cracks the top five and I really hope it's represented in some form. It's way too much fun not to be. :D
As fas as snaking goes, if they've found a way to fix that exploit so that it's really and truly gone for good then I am totally there. I am of the opinion that snaking utterly destroys Mario Kart DS's gameplay and makes the game INCREDIBLY agitating against others to the point of not wanting to play it at all.
Also its nice to see that we get new vehicles here, but I'm concerned with how they will affect gameplay. It seems to me in some screenshots that characters are doing tricks (I recall one with DK doing something in the air) and I wonder if that's just the screenshot itself or a new game element. If not then I'm kind of dissapointed but if so I'm a little intrigued.
Mario Kart is one of those spin-off series that's really really good, but has relied on its same formula for so long that its somewhat staled itself out - which is why I think most people rejected Double Dash!! but accepted what was given to us on the DS until the snaking exploit came along and broke it. I'd like to see them try to experiment with new things (I liked the gimmick of two riders but I think it would have added more variety to separate them perhaps), but I don't see TOO MUCH NEW happening outside of the addition of the steering wheel and new vehicles.
EDIT: Just saw the screenshots. Is that a new take on the old Moo Moo Farm track? Awesome. :D
Also, totally diggin' the 8 bit stuff. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that that construction site is a Wario stage and if so, I wonder if it has anything to do with Wrecking Crew. That's pretty damn neat if I do say so myself.
As fas as snaking goes, if they've found a way to fix that exploit so that it's really and truly gone for good then I am totally there. I am of the opinion that snaking utterly destroys Mario Kart DS's gameplay and makes the game INCREDIBLY agitating against others to the point of not wanting to play it at all.
Also its nice to see that we get new vehicles here, but I'm concerned with how they will affect gameplay. It seems to me in some screenshots that characters are doing tricks (I recall one with DK doing something in the air) and I wonder if that's just the screenshot itself or a new game element. If not then I'm kind of dissapointed but if so I'm a little intrigued.
Mario Kart is one of those spin-off series that's really really good, but has relied on its same formula for so long that its somewhat staled itself out - which is why I think most people rejected Double Dash!! but accepted what was given to us on the DS until the snaking exploit came along and broke it. I'd like to see them try to experiment with new things (I liked the gimmick of two riders but I think it would have added more variety to separate them perhaps), but I don't see TOO MUCH NEW happening outside of the addition of the steering wheel and new vehicles.
EDIT: Just saw the screenshots. Is that a new take on the old Moo Moo Farm track? Awesome. :D
Also, totally diggin' the 8 bit stuff. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that that construction site is a Wario stage and if so, I wonder if it has anything to do with Wrecking Crew. That's pretty damn neat if I do say so myself.
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I didnt mean you didnt do anything, but when you said that it didnt made a difference in the big picture (that might be true, atleast in short terms), i understood this as "if its small, it doesnt matter", but maybe that wasnt what you ment.Originally Posted by Phife Dawg
Oh I do my part, moreso than other people. I don't buy (plastic) bottled water etc. And compared to that a couple of plastic wheels (which I think will be put to use by the majority of people) are really nothing worth mentioning.
As I said, seeing that people buy absolutely worthless accessories like tennis rackets (ad nothing to the controls) for their WiiMotes makes me a firm believer in my theory. Try out a wheel with ET, it feels different.
True that some people buy those worthless accessories, but here they atleast have a choice to buy it or not. And we can always wonder how much these accessories are used after they are being bought, if they are contunied to be used or if they are being put on the shelf after a few tries. As said, i know the wheel is a selling point, but i dont think that Mario Kart would have sold any less (or atleast not alot less) even if this wheel wasnt included. Therefor i think 2 versions could be released without a problem, one with the wheel and one without. Maybe they also could take a couple of extra bucks for the wheel version, then they might end up making more money as well :) (unless Mario Kart is abit more expencive than the other games due to the wheel are being included in every package (atleast i think it is) of course).
I dont think people will throw the wheel in the garbage so it produces alot of garbage, but to produce all these plastic wheels means they need to use a factory which most likely will pollute. If the majority of people dont keep using the wheel i would say that this is unneccessary production and pollution. But hey, if people actually use the wheel, then its all good of course, but i have a feeling that alot of people wont, but my guess is a good as yours :)
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Isn't the Mine Wario's? (Wario's Goldmine, or something like that I'm sure).Originally Posted by Dubble
I'll bet you dollars to donuts that that construction site is a Wario stage and if so, I wonder if it has anything to do with Wrecking Crew. That's pretty damn neat if I do say so myself.
I reckon it's Waluigis - in the DS game he rode an excavator as a special Kart. It was called Scorpion or something like that.
Those new screens look good, IMO. Can't wait for this game!
ZOMG PENGUINS
ZOMG WARIO STAGE
ZOMG WALUIGI STADIUM
ZOMG LUIGI
ZOMG PEACH BEACH
ZOMG THAT STAGE FROM MARIO KART DS
ZOMG MORE PENGUINS
ZOMG KOOPA TROOPA ON HOG
Definitive proof: they THROW the shells.
Mii/Mario Kart Channel stuff:
I found it REALLY unimpressive from a technical point of view.
Mii 2D SPRITES along the track? Seriously, c'mon.
Mii 2D SPRITES along the track? Seriously, c'mon.
TIEM FOR LOLSOriginally Posted by Mdk7
I found it REALLY unimpressive from a technical point of view.
:lolOriginally Posted by Mdk7
I found it REALLY unimpressive from a technical point of view.
Mii 2D SPRITES along the track? Seriously, c'mon.
It's Wii and it's Mario Kart, who gives a shit about how it looks!. Look good enough for me!
Is that Sherbet Land from MK64? This whole area looks awfully familiar.
I'm looking forward to this over any other game but what the hell is with the screens? It looks decidedly poor, even for Wii standards.
I think I've seen enough Wii and GC screens to safely say that this game will look about a hundred times better in motion.
OK, seems to be a case of mutual misunderstanding then :D .Originally Posted by test_account
I didnt mean you didnt do anything, but when you said that it didnt made a difference in the big picture (that might be true, atleast in short terms), i understood this as "if its small, it doesnt matter", but maybe that wasnt what you ment.
True that some people buy those worthless accessories, but here they atleast have a choice to buy it or not. And we can always wonder how much these accessories are used after they are being bought, if they are contunied to be used or if they are being put on the shelf after a few tries. As said, i know the wheel is a selling point, but i dont think that Mario Kart would have sold any less (or atleast not alot less) even if this wheel wasnt included. Therefor i think 2 versions could be released without a problem, one with the wheel and one without. Maybe they also could take a couple of extra bucks for the wheel version, then they might end up making more money as well :) (unless Mario Kart is abit more expencive than the other games due to the wheel are being included in every package (atleast i think it is) of course).
I dont think people will throw the wheel in the garbage so it produces alot of garbage, but to produce all these plastic wheels means they need to use a factory which most likely will pollute. If the majority of people dont keep using the wheel i would say that this is unneccessary production and pollution. But hey, if people actually use the wheel, then its all good of course, but i have a feeling that alot of people wont, but my guess is a good as yours :)
Of course it wouldn't have sold less without the wheel. As I said I think the accessories are there to help people understand the possibilities of the WiiMote and of course ad another layer of fun. In that light releasing two versions wouldn't make sense, esp. considering you would need two types of packages etc. it would also confuse the customer (if I buy it without the wheel how will I be able to control? I saw this advertised with the wheel, what's the deal? etc.).
It's RRP with wheel is 50 €, just like any other first party Wii game that's not a direct budget release (BBA, EO etc.).
Oh it is, but they're not aiming for technically impressive visuals. I find them underwhelming too but this is currently my most anticipated Wii release. I think it's better to take a step back from technical prowess and have the thing run butter smooth (which I hope it will).Originally Posted by Mdk7
I found it REALLY unimpressive from a technical point of view.
Mii 2D SPRITES along the track? Seriously, c'mon.
It's strange because just a week ago I wasn't excited for this title at all. But now I am, even when the screens look awfull.
So what?Originally Posted by sinnergy
:lol
It's Wii and it's Mario Kart, who gives a shit about how it looks!. Look good enough for me!
I can't be happy when a game like this (a 1st party AAA franchise) looks like below average midlife GCN standards.
I mean Wii is no 360 at all, but after Galaxy, Corruption and Smash this is frankly inacceptable, it clearly feels like something lazy or extremely rushed.
Would Double Dash be considered "average midlife GCN standards" or better?Originally Posted by Mdk7
I can't be happy when a game like this (a 1st party AAA franchise) looks like below average midlife GCN standards.
Wow, now I'm actually excitedfor this.
Especially sine its's coming before Smash in Europe.
But it almost sound too good...
waiting for announcement that not all tracks will be playable online .
Especially sine its's coming before Smash in Europe.
But it almost sound too good...
waiting for announcement that not all tracks will be playable online .
Crushed i simply love your posts and you're one of my favorite Gaffers for sure.Originally Posted by Crushed
Would Double Dash be considered "average midlife GCN standards" or better?
But c'mon, don't tell me you're happy with this... And if you are, well, i disagree with you.
And yes, DD was pretty much average midlife GCN standard to me... and this is 2008, NOT 2003.
So why would this game be "below" average midlife GCN standards when it looks better than Double Dash.Originally Posted by Mdk7
And yes, DD was pretty much average midlife GCN standard to me... and this is 2008, NOT 2003.
Hell, I think it could look a lot better too, but there needs to be some perspective here.
People who complain about the graphics clearly have some kind of ocular disfunction.
Hey, remember when Nintendo would keep stuff secret for months and months, then blitz us with a whole lot of information just a month and a bit before the game would be released and hype would rise in a really dramatic way? :D
Awesome. Wario's got his WarioWare bike!
fixedOriginally Posted by Boerseun
People who don't complain about the graphics clearly have some kind of ocular disfunction.
@Crushed: ok, so it looks like "average 2003 GCN standards"... on a more powerful hardware, 5 years later, i call that unimpressive.