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Jim Sterling, Laura Kate Dale: Warning to Yooka-Laylee Pre-Orderers
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PowerThroughLov
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IIRC, Unity is poorly threaded, which makes it highly CPU dependent. And the Xbox one and PS4 have terrible little single threaded CPU's. So not too surprising.
It also means that if the game is well designed, the PC version could still be great.
It also means that if the game is well designed, the PC version could still be great.
Jawbreaker
Member
Not surprising based on what I've seen and knowing it runs on Unity.
tearsintherain
Member
cancelled my pre order, window is closing quickly on amazon pre orders that should ship next week or so, i'm too busy right now playing KH remaster, WD2, mafia 3, BOTW, and soon Persona 5 and I'm not a huge platforming guy anyways.
Switch version comes later
Candescence
Member
No, not really. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, it's just that Unity can be difficult to optimise if you haven't planned ahead on that front - really easy to use, hard to master. There are Unity games that run well on console, such as Android Assault Cactus, which involves a ton of shit happening on the screen.
Plus, Unity was, until a fairly recent version, didn't have multi-threading support, which doesn't mesh well with the shit CPUs of the PS4 and Xbone, which have shit single-thread performance. I wouldn't be surprised if Yooka-Laylee wasn't updated to a more recent version of Unity 5 in order to avoid breaking things.
tl;dr: Calling Unity a "shit engine" due to devs not optimising properly is unfair and terribly reductive. That being said, you're going to be saddled with any number of problems with pre-existing engines that will be a pain in the ass to work around, and UE4 is no exception, hence why my programming guy and I are moving over to a custom engine based off of open-source frameworks.
The beta version thingy (given to Amazon pre-orders several months ago) ran like garbage, to the point at which it gave me a headache from the eye strain; and in said "beta", the world geometry and detail was pretty sparse.
Hoping the Pro's "Boost Mode" helps smooth thing out...
Hoping the Pro's "Boost Mode" helps smooth thing out...
I watched part of one gameplay video, set in a casino I think. The thing that struck me was how big the environment looked compared to the character and how few baddies there were around.
Maybe all the games of the period were like that I don't remember, but it felt like the player was rolling around a warehouse to go quite small locations for gameplay. Found it a bit odd.
Maybe all the games of the period were like that I don't remember, but it felt like the player was rolling around a warehouse to go quite small locations for gameplay. Found it a bit odd.
papersleeves
Member
I'll still buy it, performance issue aside or not. I've been waiting for a Banjo's successor for so long, I'm not going to choke because of eurojank and choppiness.
Still, this might be troublesome for a LOT of people lol
Still, this might be troublesome for a LOT of people lol
RichiRamjag
Member
People always say this, but when the bulk of the unity content released is iffy, it's going to continue to get a bad rap.
schaft0620
Member
You are nuts if you are getting this game day 1 with everything that is out right now.
The way they talk about it (or rather, the way the noises they make to describe it sound), I get the feeling that performance isn't their only issue with it but it was the only thing they explicitly hinted at so anything else would be guesswork on our part.
He was certainly off the mark about BotW so let's hope this is the same
SlasherJPC
Banned
I'm also playing it and Id agree with your comment.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Jim gave BotW a 7 so I wouldn't put a ton of faith in his judgement tbqh.
No idea who Laura is.
No idea who Laura is.
Shil Pencer
Member
This is not going to help Rextros friend count
Oh? We in there?
Donate to an anti-racism cause.
You shouldn't feel obligated to buy a game just because of shitheads not liking it.
Got it. Thank you!
RichiRamjag
Member
Well damn. I always trust your word, so I guess we'll wait and see.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It's mainly the performance people are worried about. Unity on console is not reliable.
Can you talk about performance?
sixteen-bit
Member
Bomba incoming?
Well they are running on engines made specifically for their hardware while developing games for only one platform and spec. Unity has to target many platforms, so in no way is it going to match the optimization or quality of a first party studio.
outunderthestars
Banned
stop.....preordering.......games........
It's really not that complicated.
It's really not that complicated.
That's unfair. People have differing tastes. Banjo was one of my favorite games as a kid - so of course I'm going to be jumping in day 1 to see if they were successful in recreating the magic.
Green Yoshi
Member
This game is supposed to be released on Switch and already struggles on PS4 and Xbox One?
But their CPUs should be still more powerful than the ones of 360, PS3 and WiiU. Yooka-Laylee is not a very complex game.
But their CPUs should be still more powerful than the ones of 360, PS3 and WiiU. Yooka-Laylee is not a very complex game.
Zomba13
Member
In this case though, if no one preordered there wouldn't be a game to get angry at people for preordering.
Folks should give the GameXplain video a preview a watch/listen. They answer lots of question and discuss a fair amount: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co0rCB2tf70
MrS
Banned
Heaven forbid somebody giving an honest impression of a video game they've played
It's a good thing that these guys are beholden to nobody but themselves
Knowing your dislike of Unity based games on consoles, this is a bit reassuring at least.
brandonh83
Banned
I'm going with dark10x and slasher over Jim
Unity is very easy to use.
It isn't cheap if your game does well. Unity is flat cost per seat, Unreal just takes a chunk of your entire revenue.
Anyways, the trailers looked fine to me and I've played the toybox, controls and everything were great. Is this guy traditionally a real stickler for performance or something? If not I can't see how this is just "guy doesn't like thing" until we get an actual review. Kind of a shitty way to break-not-break embargo too.
"#Money back# #Money back#"
On a serious note​, i backed the game for throw away money. While it being broken / shit etc would be disappointing to an extent, the premise of backing it is with that possibility in mind. Anyone who hasn't done this either with backing the game or pre-ordering probably needs to re-evaluate what they're doing.
Performance issues, being unity, is a given to an extent. Should be able to salvage something on PC but we'll see. I've always thought the rest of game itself is the challenge Vs Banjo heritage. Looking forward to seeing the final product whether good or laughing stock!
On a serious note​, i backed the game for throw away money. While it being broken / shit etc would be disappointing to an extent, the premise of backing it is with that possibility in mind. Anyone who hasn't done this either with backing the game or pre-ordering probably needs to re-evaluate what they're doing.
Performance issues, being unity, is a given to an extent. Should be able to salvage something on PC but we'll see. I've always thought the rest of game itself is the challenge Vs Banjo heritage. Looking forward to seeing the final product whether good or laughing stock!
AHA-Lambda
Member
Damn it 