I care. I'd be extremely disappointed if it was true.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Final Fantasy XIII Versus outfit designer lists game as Final Fantasy XV (15)
- Thread starter Takao
- Start date
- Status
I care. I'd be extremely disappointed if it was true.
PaulExcellent
Member
Yay, bigger number.
I don't care.
Can we just get the game sometime soon?
I don't care.
Can we just get the game sometime soon?
JordanLMiller
Member
I'm no expert, but if I was in charge I would change the name too. But then again I would have done a lot differently...
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Considering there have been 3 FFXIII games starring Lightning and company, keeping XIII in the title is silly. Versus XIII is something else, and without knowing what it is it sounds like a fighting game featuring XIII characters. You could argue that people already know about it, or that marketing would obviously show people otherwise, but it's not a good idea to give a game a title that you have to work against. Especially since the idea behind the FNC mythos collapsed due to XIII's poor reception and Versus taking so long. With the original idea behind the name no longer being relevant, there's little incentive not to rename it.
The game definitely seems ambitious enough to be "deserving" of it's own numeral, whatever the hell that even means. It would definitely pick up the most attention that way, and if they don't have a proper XV lined up to be released in the near future (and assuming Versus is potentially a near future release, lulz) XV would make sense.
I also don't see it remaining exclusive to PS3, and being exclusively next-gen would be a slap in the face to people who already bought one console with this game in mind (though buying a console for an unreleased game is always a bad idea).
The game definitely seems ambitious enough to be "deserving" of it's own numeral, whatever the hell that even means. It would definitely pick up the most attention that way, and if they don't have a proper XV lined up to be released in the near future (and assuming Versus is potentially a near future release, lulz) XV would make sense.
I also don't see it remaining exclusive to PS3, and being exclusively next-gen would be a slap in the face to people who already bought one console with this game in mind (though buying a console for an unreleased game is always a bad idea).
cosmicblizzard
Banned
A name change to XV would reflect very poorly on Square and their confidence in the brand. It would basically be admitting their development cycles are such a mess that they can't get by without an artificial rebranding which brings a shitton of new, negative implications.
Dropping the XIII is perfectly fine though.
Dropping the XIII is perfectly fine though.
CrunchyFrog
Member
It's a number, the vast majority of the public likely won't care, nor do they have any real reason to. Regardless of whether they change the name or not or the way they think it may be perceived, there's already clear evidence that their development cycle up to this point has been a near complete shambles. They've already hit rock bottom *knocks on wood*
Strictly from the viewpoint of "I'd like to see a trilogy each generation" no, they don't matter. I'll note this IS vain and superficial and not a serious concern, but none of them are proper numbered installments, at best being direct sequels to one of those proper numbered installments.
However from a less vain/superficial viewpoint, each of those mainline numbered games were the biggest deal relative to their generation and for FF: they have the most money blown on them, and are hyped up to be a big deal. This another way vsXIII makes sense as FFXV, FFT and its ilk undoubtedly had a much smaller budget than VII-IX while X-2, XIII-2, and LR are made via recycling assets on a short development timeframe and likely a smaller budget. Type-0's probably closer to being a major mainline game than they are, but FFvsXIII is the closest of them all.
And like said, this is basically the Ultima "trilogy of trilogies" thing, and BOTH angles apply there: Ultima Underworld doesn't count, the GB/SNES spin-offs don't, and Ultima VII Part 2 can be treated as just an extension of VII much like FFX-2 and FFXIII-2/LR can be treated as extensions of FFX and FFXIII respectively. That, and each of those numbered games were big deals for their time: I believe from Ultima IV or V onwards they were all on new engines, and while FF typically doesn't go THAT far each mainline game is a high budget creation from the ground up more or less.
Only in the eyes of people that actually care about that kind of thing, which is what, like 20 people? The rest of us just want the game, regardless of it's irrelevant title.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Nobody outside of enthusiast forums like GAF is going to think this at all.
General audience will probably just think its a new mainline title and go bonkers. Yep.
darkhunger
Member
How many people in GAF even cares about that? Like one person?
The FF brand is already broken right now anyway. THe numerous gradually worse selling spinoffs diluted it like crazy and then FFXIII and XIV came and smashed it to bits. Square Enix Japan is rock bottom right now and they really aren't about to drop much further.
And who doesn't know their development cycles are a mess?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Yep. General audience probably doesn't even know/remember Versus is a thing.
Yeah, ever single person I've talked to that doesn't frequent video game enthusiast websites has never even heard of it in the first place.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Everyone I've talked to about it who doesn't fit that criteria either doesn't know it exists or thinks it's Dissidia.
No one heard of the game till I showed it last week, lol.
They just knew LR and XIV.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
It's not just that. There's a lot of implications involved that would definitely have mixed reception. The mainline series going full ARPG would signify a change in the direction of the series that could alienate some fans, especially if it's a one time thing which will just cause a bigger split for XVI.
It could also mean that Square has done absolutely nothing internally on consoles while making this money sink and a few MMOs. That means no XVI for a while, so those holding out for a type of game are shit out of luck for another 4-5 years.
Then of course there's the possibility stuff had to be changed to erase all Fabula Nova references, potentially delaying the game more than it needed to be. It may not happen, but the game has been hyped up as an FNC entry for a while, so it's a no-win situation whether they keep or erase it.
Then of course there's the fact the mysterious allure of a new Final Fantasy is completely gone. Won't mean much when it's out, but for those that have been hyping it up for 6 years, it seems almost redundant to get excited at this point.
It's just a mess all around.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Hope is for the weak
I know it's for PS4 Ò_Ó
I know it's for PS3.
Fight me.
I think everyone already knows it's more than just a simple spinoff already.
CrunchyFrog
Member
XI and XIV being MMO's didn't seem to irk players that much in retrospect (the deplorable state of XIV's launch, though unrelated to its simply being an MMO, notwithstanding). The rest of this can be chalked up to overblown hype. We've had all but 2 trailers on this game, the last of which was years ago. Anything we might have known about this game is likely gone by now, making it for all intents and purposes "new."
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Awful and definitely takes away any excitement I feel from any numbered Final Fantasies from here on. If it ends up basically a re reveal of the same world and characters but now with better visuals... I'll be speechless. Part of the excitement is being introduced to something new. Versus lost that benefit a long time ago.
No need for it. For "casuals" / non FF-fanataics renaming it to FF15 has no impact at all. The opposite in fact, for the "normal gamer" FFv13 would just seem like the THIRD sequel to FF13. And for the rest, it's just the most reasonable thing. The 13-stigma is way too grave. Even Square knows at this point that their "Lightning Saga" (lol) is very controversial.
Then again, Square didn't do any logical thing in the past 10 years.
shinra-bansho
Member
What's in a name? Agito XIII became Type-0 and nobody cared.
I think people are over-thinking a potential name change - and the game would probably sell more as a mainline title than with the XIII branding, which is frankly a little toxic.
I think people are over-thinking a potential name change - and the game would probably sell more as a mainline title than with the XIII branding, which is frankly a little toxic.
Winter is coming.
Shows they are taking distance from FNC, which no longer exists at this point.
Winter is coming.
Depends on where you live.
So? It's been six years since the game was announced and there has been just about fuck all shown or said about it since. Renaming the game isn't exactly ruining their spotless track record here.
Exentryk
Member
If this is true, then it is a very good move by SE. Also, Versus will still be on the PS3. Calling it XV doesnt mean it becomes the PS4 FF that Hashimoto will show at E3.
Also, perhaps ROEN saw that fake video last year about Versus being renamed to FFXV and they changed their site, but forgot to change it back? I know we don't have enough details as to when and how often the site was changed, but it is a possibility.
Anyhow! The implication this has now, if true, is that SE have to announce Versus's name change between now and E3, so they can show off their FFXVI on the PS4.
Also, perhaps ROEN saw that fake video last year about Versus being renamed to FFXV and they changed their site, but forgot to change it back? I know we don't have enough details as to when and how often the site was changed, but it is a possibility.
Anyhow! The implication this has now, if true, is that SE have to announce Versus's name change between now and E3, so they can show off their FFXVI on the PS4.
FNC exists. Not sure where you got the idea that it doesn't. They changed Type-0's title at the same time that they got the website rights to Type-1, Type-2, Type-3 and so on up to Type-10. It's not really distanced from FNC at all considering it still has the whole mythology woven throughout the entire game. They probably just anticipated that they wanted to make this a whole other spin-off with sequels and having it be FF Agito XIII-2 and so on would be a very unwieldy name.
Versus is heavily FNC unless they changed the whole story around, or changed the names of the gods involved, which they may have if they're changing it to XV. At this point, making it a main numbered entry seems to be more about sales than distancing it from FNC. The trailers have always talked about seeing the light of souls from Etro's gate. The other part in the art gallery shows a painting of Etro front and center, showing more of her than XIII and XIII-2 did.
If they decide to not make Versus part of FNC and rebrand it and alter some of the story, FNC will still be XIII, XIII-2, LR, and Type-0.
The mythos are still there, yes, but there no longer is a connection between the games; that's what I've meant.
It's a title...omg...
Their rumor was all over the place. They said it's canceled so the staff is depressed? Then said, maybe it's not canceled it's just a name change. But a name change to XV wouldn't depress anyone.
They had like 3 different contradictory "predictions."
cosmicblizzard
Banned
A title that comes with a whole lot of baggage. Being the first numbered entry to completely abandon command-based combat is pretty historical for the series and could disappoint quite a few people. May also affect future developments.
It's been 6+ years. I'd put down money that nobody remembers and most people who aren't immediately connected to videogame news cares either.
Hell, I've been addicted to the entire concept of this game since it's debut and I don't even care what they call it. As long as it becomes a thing they can call it whatever.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
But XIII released 3 years ago. People still associate the series with command-based combat.
- Status