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Eidos hacked by rogue Anonymous

Wolves Evolve said:
Oh its good to see people aren't collapsing the hackers who did this, with the hackers who got into PSN, with those who did the Wikileaks counter-actions.

Because its all totally the same thing and obviously only the same 10 people would do all three.


it was Anonymous™ - the highly organized, highly sophisticated worldwide conspiracy of hackers.
 

akira28

Member
Anonymous pissed off some people, so now "Anonymous" is going to drag their name through the mud. Since they're a nameless and faceless cyber society with no leadership and a mass-inclusion philosophy, any Scientologist or security specialist with a grudge with a laptop can pretend to be a member. That being said, this is why anarchy usually falls short. It may even be some disgruntles sub-bosses doing it, and they can claim the name because that's how they've set it up. Works for you when you want it, but looks like it can work against you too.
 

MaddenNFL64

Member
akira28 said:
Anonymous pissed off some people, so now "Anonymous" is going to drag their name through the mud. Since they're a nameless and faceless cyber society with no leadership and a mass-inclusion philosophy, any Scientologist or security specialist with a grudge with a laptop can pretend to be a member. That being said, this is why anarchy usually falls short. It may even be some disgruntles sub-bosses doing it, and they can claim the name because that's how they've set it up. Works for you when you want it, but looks like it can work against you too.

I think anonymous will always pop up in the news within my lifetime.

"A group calling themselves anonymous hacked bank of america etc.

"A group calling themselves anonymous hacked paypal & stole all account info"

Some shit will go down with someone claiming responsibility as "Anon".
 

alphaNoid

Banned
arnoldocastillo2003 said:
Fuck sake, are you serious, man fuck it, put them to jail, please.
You have to catch them first, which is probably going to be harder than most of you think. In fact, I'll be shocked if 1 person ever gets caught.
 

ZeroRay

Member
I laugh at the people who think anonymous is some huge organization with the same goals.

It's basically become a meme where groups of self righteous people think of themselves as saviors and take up the title, or groups of people who just want to cause havoc for laughs, and everything else in between.
 
MaddenNFL64 said:
I think anonymous will always pop up in the news within my lifetime.

"A group calling themselves anonymous hacked bank of america etc.

"A group calling themselves anonymous hacked paypal & stole all account info"

Some shit will go down with someone claiming responsibility as "Anon".

Yes, and eventually anyone who wants to do any legit protesting would have to disassociate themselves from that name.

How about "invisible"?
 

MaddenNFL64

Member
Dreamgazer said:
Yes, and eventually anyone who wants to do any legit protesting would have to disassociate themselves from that name.

How about "invisible"?

Haha, sounds good.

I'm sure there will be a nice variety of names that people can loosely collaborate around in the future.

edit: but thinking about it, even using anonymous as a protest, like hacking into a government database, and releasing info, should be enough to get people to understand that it's separate from "anonymous stole a bunch of shit from Nintendo this week".

Even if not, anonymous has been so often by so many people, it's the best way to keep decentralized & well "anonymous". No formal leadership to find etc.
 
Vigilant Walrus said:
In the end won't all these hacks mean less free internet, and more control, and less freedom to its users?


hackers should read up on the categorical imperative.


I can feel it...the winds of shit, randy. RealID™ for everyone in the future. no more being a douche for kicks on the internet.
 

akira28

Member
MaddenNFL64 said:
I think anonymous will always pop up in the news within my lifetime.

"A group calling themselves anonymous hacked bank of america etc.

"A group calling themselves anonymous hacked paypal & stole all account info"

Some shit will go down with someone claiming responsibility as "Anon".

It's too bad. I thought it could be benevolent cyber-anarchists proving points against the status quo and spitting in the eye of Evil, Inc. Instead it's a useful scapegoat to a world that doesn't know what exactly a hacker even is, anyway, and isn't too inclined to look closer to find out.

I think anonymous could pull it off again, but they'd have to establish communications protocols and some actual if not totally factual identities to let us know when we're dealing to "Authentic Anon" or with a pretender or un-authorized hacker action.

We're going to need a separate network once they lock the internet down and identify/monitor everyone.
 

antonz

Member
Vigilant Walrus said:
In the end won't all these hacks mean less free internet, and more control, and less freedom to its users?
In the end wont the groups who want Government controlled IDs for the net etc do whatever it takes to get there anyways?
 
Dreamgazer said:
Oh hey, it's correction time.
1. There is no "them". Anonymous is everyone (definition provided by anonymous supporters)

2. A rogue anonymous is an anonymous that use to be one of those anonymous ,that you might be thinking of, but has chosen to no longer to be associated with those anonymous, that you might be thinking of. Hence, when the article says rogue anonymous, they're really not blaming on the anonymous that you might thinking of. Of course, perhaps "ex-anonymous anonymous " or "former-anonymous anonymous" would have been better.

Everything is GOOD!

Now all we need is a "united unconscious" to pop up to make things less confusing + stop making everyone blaming the anonymous that we might be thinking of.
I'm gonna bill this as Anonymous Defense: "We are anonymous, a shadow organization that defends liberty and freedom of information, except we also have douchebags who do stupid stuff but don't look at them, they are not real anonymous!" A member from anonymous hacks some website, but he's a rogue individual unless sanctioned by anonymous organizers; the guys who do the "we do not forgive, we dont forget" crap, organize DDoS takedowns, etc. But the organizers of this association are retarded for that reason itself, the association prides itself for being anonymous (adjective, not the cesspool). Do you see where the trap is? I'll make it more clear. There can be no plausible deniability when it comes to attacks originating from anon. Anonymous organizers are shooting themselves in their faces when they say "um doods we don't know what happens maybe some rogue anon guy did it!" That's the entire point of your stupid website, you doofuses!!
 
antonz said:
It can be several things. Chippy1337 could be a dozen different people or on the contrary he is good enough that being all over the place doesnt bother him.

It looks like the name is the hacking groups name, rather than an individuals. And that's assuming that the group responsible is even the same group. It wouldn't be the first time that a hacking group beefing with another pulled a hack and signed it with another groups name as a way to get heat to come down on them.
 

railGUN

Banned
Smision said:
I can feel it...the winds of shit, randy. RealID™ for everyone in the future. no more being a douche for kicks on the internet.

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MaddenNFL64

Member
RustyNails said:
I'm gonna bill this as Anonymous Defense: "We are anonymous, a shadow organization that defends liberty and freedom of information, except we also have douchebags who do stupid stuff but don't look at them, they are not real anonymous!" A member from anonymous hacks some website, but he's a rogue individual unless sanctioned by anonymous organizers; the guys who do the "we do not forgive, we dont forget" crap, organize DDoS takedowns, etc. But the organizers of this association are retarded for that reason itself, the association prides itself for being anonymous (adjective, not the cesspool). Do you see where the trap is? I'll make it more clear. There can be no plausible deniability when it comes to attacks originating from anon. Anonymous organizers are shooting themselves in their faces when they say "um doods we don't know what happens maybe some rogue anon guy did it!" That's the entire point of your stupid website, you doofuses!!

And I think that it's best that way in the end. It has it's drawbacks, but theres so much fucking noise just because of the name, there's so many ways to hide.
 

antonz

Member
Lonewolf_92 said:
It looks like the name is the hacking groups name, rather than an individuals. And that's assuming that the group responsible is even the same group. It wouldn't be the first time that a hacking group beefing with another pulled a hack and signed it with another groups name as a way to get heat to come down on them.
Yep. The logs certainly seem to suggest its more a case of one group fucking with another at SE expense.
 
It says "some 9,000 resumes" were stolen or whatever. I wonder if the kid was really just making a "IT'S OVER 9000!!!!" joke and they didn't get it.
 
There seems to be a gross lack of perspective on anon in here. To those who are asking why attack Eidos, well, if it's the same guys behind the Sony attack, then it'd be most likely just cause. Doin it for the lulz and all.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Sony hack job that took down PSN was some kind of bizarre protest against the prior organized Sony attack by anon at large. Ever since project chanology (the scientology protest movement) there's been a bunch of anons crying about how anon got turned from an internet hate machine that was just causing trouble for laughs into some kind of organized goody two shoes movement.
 
googleplex said:
It still blows my mind when I think about how many here on Gaf where defending this scum.

The hackers or anonymous? I only ask because the dialogue on these topics has gotten incredibly murky and hard to discern.
 

Radogol

Member
surly said:
That's what I don't get. They made their beef with Sony pretty clear, but why Eidos?

Yesterday, when someone mentioned there'd be riots in the streets if Square was forced to cancel FFVersusXIII, I was about to make a joke that they will get hacked, that'll show them and teach them to manage their business better.

Oh, and those first, vague details about 5HITMAN sound concerning as well. Let's DDoS the fuckers!

Even though I realize they most likely didn't have anything to do with it, I think the timing of the whole PSN thing was very empowering to the nerds.
 

antonz

Member
davepoobond said:
so i guess its open season on gaming companies now?
Im sure all of them get tested time to time. Its when theres a vulnerability due to IT laziness such as outdated software thats been broken etc that leads to problems.

The right servers being accessed can make groups lots of money
 

low-G

Member
Vigilant Walrus said:
In the end won't all these hacks mean less free internet, and more control, and less freedom to its users?

Absolutely, and people are going to gobble it up. Thanks a lot criminal fucks, you're ruining a good thing for everyone!
 

Psi

Member
I guess they decided they wanted to drag their 15 minutes out for as long as they could. Whatever, I just sit back and watch the spectacle play out awaiting the day I redeem my Portal 2 copy on Steam.
 

low-G

Member
miyuru said:
Would be ridiculous if this was the start of a viral campaign for DX3.

Do I remember right that before Deus Ex 1 came out they faked a gov't takedown of their site?

I think shareholders are a bit too wary of the publicity having your network hacked and people lose their identities because of it.
 

Alts

Member
I don't understand how a "less free internet" follows from some kids finding exploits on Eidos's site. And can we please stop assuming that all hackers are Anonymous and that it has some unified vision?
 
antonz said:
Yep. The logs certainly seem to suggest its more a case of one group fucking with another at SE expense.

I feel the "anon.txt" that was left during the Sony job was the same deal. Anonymous made themselves good scapegoats for the whole thing when they DDOSed Sony, made it real easy for a real black hat hacker group to pass the blame onto them. From what I've seen and my experience with this scene (and no, I'm not going to go into details), I doubt many, if any, in Anonymous have the ability to pull off anything higher than basic script-kiddy crap like DDOS attacks. A job like the Sony one and this one requires a lot more planning and organization than we've seen out of the group in its history. More importantly, a job like these require time, dedication, and ALOT of boring work that the bulk of Anonymous just isn't going to sink into something.
 
googleplex said:
It still blows my mind when I think about how many here on Gaf where defending this scum.

I know, 0 is a pretty hard number to comprehend.

Alright there were probably a handful of isolated posters who did but unless you're of the moronic "flashing custom firmware is just as bad as attacking PSN and stealing data" faction, no, virtually no one on GAF defended the PSN or this hack. Certainly not a mind-blowing number.
 

antonz

Member
Lonewolf_92 said:
I feel the "anon.txt" that was left during the Sony job was the same deal. Anonymous made themselves good scapegoats for the whole thing when they DDOSed Sony, made it real easy for a real black hat hacker group to pass the blame onto them. From what I've seen and my experience with this scene (and no, I'm not going to go into details), I doubt many, if any, in Anonymous have the ability to pull off anything higher than basic script-kiddy crap like DDOS attacks. A job like the Sony one and this one requires a lot more planning and organization than we've seen out of the group in its history. More importantly, a job like these require time, dedication, and ALOT of boring work that the bulk of Anonymous just isn't going to sink into something.
Yep I mean the case in London where they arrested like 40 of them. It was all because one professional hacker changed the DDOS software anon kiddies like to use and it reported all their info the companies being DDOS'D.

I have no doubt that whats going on is a concerted effort by certain groups.
 

Jintor

Member
This is the stupid metaphor that I have in my head about this that is dumb because the target audience is probably smaller than simply explaining the situation, but: Anonymous is like a Gray Fox mask, except everybody can potentially have one.
 
Wait what? The term "rogue Anonymous" is an oxymoron.

I guess "we think it might have been a hacker who we can somehow identify as having been a 'member' of Anonymous somehow" is a bit too long for a thread title.

Also it is fairly amusing when anything to do with Deus Ex gets hacked. They should turn this into free publicity.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Doffen said:
How do we know it's Anonymous? There are lot's of other hackers out there in the wild.

i doubt they have a membership application or a list of people who are considered part of the group.

anyone can just "say" they are in it when they might not be really associated with it. who would know otherwise, its not like any "legit" Anonymous would come out and say "he's not Anonymous, here's the list of people that are really in Anonymous, and he's not on it"


its a moot point. the only person to blame is the person who did it.
 
Random Company Personnel 1: "We.. don't know who in gods name hacked us.."
Random Company Personnel 2: "It must have been some rogue Anonymous member. Send out press releases, tell them it was Anonymous!"
 
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