You referring to kitsu's post there? I talk about it on the next page, and I think we brought something up, but I can't check very easily right now.
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Love Boat 2 [Mafia] |OT| Electric Boogalove
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You referring to kitsu's post there? I talk about it on the next page, and I think we brought something up, but I can't check very easily right now.
NP
More interested in Crimson as he didn't really mention it iirc.
VOTE: Xbro
Sorry for the late vote. I started kinda on nothing today, but I dislike the lack of voting trails too.
I can buy Crimson and Sophia being scum. Their posts flip back and forth between accurate contributive assessments and sitting in the shadows. Almost randomly. They seem to be paying the most attention while also leading the least.
I don't know if I posted this before but the reason I chose Kit specifically to bandwagon day 1, besides fitting the obvious profile of a potential coasting scum, was because Crim voted for them. I was town reading them earlier but I had soured by the end of the night bc of how Crim responded to me and Sor. I thought Crimsons vote felt weak and like it wasn't going to go anywhere so I wanted to push it. Like it was a scum idly voting another scum.
But there are some things that make me read them as town even if they're kinda aloof feeling. Like Crim suggesting to not lynch Sor because of blocking a night kill. This is a really dangerous suggestion if Sor is actually town. Maybe scumCrim knows Sor isn't likely to be a threat with the blocks. Dunno.
I like the idea of lynching Karkador as well but I don't get that gut desire for a juicy flip. They're just super unhelpful. I expected something by now from them
I don't really give Crimson townie points for pointing out leaving Sorian alone for now is the best move. As scum if you're thinking this all through it's not too hard to come to the realization that someone will eventually point that out. I say that knowing full well I too pointed it out. It's more NAI to me.
I can feel it. Until Crim mentioned it, the idea of them blocking a lynch hadn't crossed my mind. The reasoning behind your post is pretty flimsy itself although I agree with the message. I didn't feel like we were trying to save Kark day #1 either.
I remember Sorian saying Sawneeks was building a case in PMs.
Saw did you ever finish that?
hey_monkey
Banned
Did we ever get fran's theory?
As for Kark and Xbro, I dunno. I feel like we (well, everyone; I was not here) might have noticed something that day they were silenced, but that's also the day fepsune was lynched, so it's possible that went down because of no chat. Still, it gives me pause and I know Flush was town reading them though I'd have to go look to see why.
As for Kark and Xbro, I dunno. I feel like we (well, everyone; I was not here) might have noticed something that day they were silenced, but that's also the day fepsune was lynched, so it's possible that went down because of no chat. Still, it gives me pause and I know Flush was town reading them though I'd have to go look to see why.
If anyone has a rock solid case on why someone is scum I'd love to hear it. My feeling on Crimson/Sophia are grounded in both my personal reads as well as their actual voting thus far. That's at least something compared to what has been tossed around at various other points.
Hey, dudes and dudettes. Sorry about being out - my flight got in real late last night after being delayed, and I did a buttload of unpacking and setting up today.
My replacement laptop isn't in until next week, but I have my Steambox set up, so that's just as good. Gonna read and reread a bit now. Thanks for your understanding.
My replacement laptop isn't in until next week, but I have my Steambox set up, so that's just as good. Gonna read and reread a bit now. Thanks for your understanding.
I think you're absolutely telling the truth about being a Hooker, to be clear.
It's the "town" part that's... hmm.
Sorian's claimed role is essentially a kind of limited cop in that if he picks the right target to roleblock, no kill will occur; thus, he knows he's found scum.
What stops scum!Sorian from sticking around until MYLO, scum forfeiting their kill the night prior, and then Sorian claiming that he successfully rb'd scum? What then?
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DAY 4 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
StarSketch & AbsolutBro (4)
Natiko 3473 3523
franconp 3527
CrimsonFist 3663
Nomadic Sparks 3669
Sophia 3730
Sawneeks & Sorian (2)
CrimsonFist 3472 3663
acohrs 3654
Darryl 3670
CrimsonFist & Sophia (1)
Natiko 3676
Natiko & Nomadic Sparks (1)
nin1000 3547
rac & acohrs (1)
Sawneeks 3494
Trigger & Ty4on (1)
Sorian 3530 3689
hey_monkey 3711
Xbro & Karkador (1)
Ty4on 3752
Darryl & nin1000 (1)
Nomadic Sparks 3583 3669
Sorian 3689
No active vote for Day 4: AbsolutBro, Dr. Worm, Karkador, rac, Royal_Flush, StarSketch, Trigger, Xbro
Day 4 Postcount: AbsolutBro 2, acohrs 14, CrimsonFist 26, Darryl 14, Dr. Worm 5, franconp 18, hey_monkey 33, Karkador 2, Natiko 39, nin1000 17, Nomadic Sparks 8, rac 6, Royal_Flush 0, Sawneeks 16, Sophia 17, Sorian 28, StarSketch 4, Trigger 1, Ty4on 26, Xbro 6
Day 4 ends:
Automated vote tally here
11 votes for majority
StarSketch & AbsolutBro (4)
franconp 3527
CrimsonFist 3663
Nomadic Sparks 3669
Sophia 3730
Sawneeks & Sorian (2)
acohrs 3654
Darryl 3670
CrimsonFist & Sophia (1)
Natiko 3676
Natiko & Nomadic Sparks (1)
nin1000 3547
rac & acohrs (1)
Sawneeks 3494
Trigger & Ty4on (1)
hey_monkey 3711
Xbro & Karkador (1)
Ty4on 3752
Darryl & nin1000 (1)
Sorian 3689
No active vote for Day 4: AbsolutBro, Dr. Worm, Karkador, rac, Royal_Flush, StarSketch, Trigger, Xbro
Day 4 Postcount: AbsolutBro 2, acohrs 14, CrimsonFist 26, Darryl 14, Dr. Worm 5, franconp 18, hey_monkey 33, Karkador 2, Natiko 39, nin1000 17, Nomadic Sparks 8, rac 6, Royal_Flush 0, Sawneeks 16, Sophia 17, Sorian 28, StarSketch 4, Trigger 1, Ty4on 26, Xbro 6
Day 4 ends:
Automated vote tally here
11 votes for majority
How is that any different from another claim at MYLO/LYLO? Should be skeptical regardless.
But I did explain what the issue was. I pointed back to show that my votes aren't there for low activity, that's just a nice extra.
You mention a few people and then say PMs, I assume you mean her scum read on Sophia and Crimson? She can speak for herself but she's cooled slightly on them since last day phase since I haven't really been engaged in it. That said, she did post her theory in here at some point during the last day phase. I don't feel like finding it for you but unless I'm mixing up places in my mind, she's posted her suspicions here.
The issue with this idea is that ignoring a NK pushes the mislynch count back by 1 at this point if my math is right after the other stopped kill because of the virgin so scum!Sawrian would gain no benefit because we'd get a free mislynch and still need to deal with the next day phase with everyone likely to pile on us anyway.
Here's what I'm looking at:
Say we have two scum and eight town right now. Mislynch and NK bring it to 2/6 next phase, repeat that for 2/4. Mislynch again for 2/3. No kill submitted, claim successful RB.
If we have three scum and seven town, then mislynch + NK takes it to 3/5. Mislynch again for 3/4, no kill submitted, same situation.
I'm guessing we have no neutral, since they don't seem to have made themselves known at all.
Scum wins with equal numbers, if they don't then that's just Burb wasting time because scum can't be lynched if they take up half the game unless we have a double vote floating around too.
To be completely honest, I apparently remembered way more than there actually was. What I liked was the progression during the whole WAMD/kitsune drama on day 1,
I don't want to just put out tons of quotes to look busy so I take this sub set here. This is way early and I know that but this reads like a pair discussing behind the scenes and evolving a read together. It continues a lot like that for day 1 but I'll admit that day 2 didn't have nearly as much as I actually remembered. Crimson even drops a vote with little provocation before going afk and I call it sheeping which I forgot in the whole hustle and bustle of day end.
I'm not going to play the whole afk game but the drop in my strong gut read on them is very linked to the drop in their activity day 2. Idk, I'm still not seeing the scum angle at the end of the day. Scum jumps in that vote with some reasoning and they don't bother evolving the read day 1 once kitsune v. WAMD wraps up.
hey_monkey
Banned
I can't speak for Sorian, but for me, it's a simple difference in approach. Ty sometimes is very straightforward, so nothing to really follow, and at other times layers into his posts, little things that don't really stand out but are a good way to lowkey create narrative. Loaded words. Hints of shade. Things that help develop an attitude from vapor, because they don't get challenged and then suddenly they become fact. It's a pretty common rhetorical technique in realtime/live social deception games. I'll have some examples in a bit.
Sophia and Crimson just seem like they're playing, sometimes more active than at other times. It feels honest, not calculated; to use Ty's own work, "pure," and natural. I would feel better if they were more active, but the only nagging thing seems to be that they are rarely active at the same time. That could well be calculated so they don't contradict each other, but considering they have vastly different time zones, I doubt it.
I'm surprised you of all people would make this comparison in defense of Crimson/Sophia though given your earlier posts pointing out changes in behavior from certain people being potential scum tells. You'd be hard pressed to come up with too many examples of Crimson/Sophia putting in much work in this game on any day that isn't D1. Ty has at least been fairly consistent even if I've not been thoroughly impressed by his posts at times.
Having done a little reread, honestly I'm probably giving more credit than is due but D1 left a really good imprint on me. It's a silly gut thing at the end of the day and I'm well aware that it's been wrong (you being the actual example of this) but it's usually not and I know Crimson and Sophia well enough to at least be able to read their meta.
hey_monkey
Banned
You're not wrong and after I submitted that post I sat here and thought about it for a bit, like, am I giving them a pass? And if I am, why am I? I am not big on gut readings but I all but said "I feel they're town." I think Crimson has given me that impression more than Sophia but that may be because he's been more active than she since I subbed in, but I think I'll look back over them thanks to your post.
I can see what you mean on Ty as well, I think where I struggle is I don't get even the gut town vibes you have on Crimson/Sophia. That being said knowing that it's more in regards to Trigger does make it make more sense to me. Honestly if not for Ty's insistence on kit I probably would still have him as one of if not the number one scum read.
The irrational part of me that tries to hold onto my first reads of everyone as fact has this image of kit, Ty, and Royal as a scum team with Ty having committed to always bussing teammates to try and get all the town credit. His vote today (plus me knowing this isn't reasonable or likely) quieted that part of my brain down though.
I just feel like they've been coasting on D1 goodwill a lot. I know they've both been busy off and on, I get that, but the general drive just seems missing now.
That being said if some of us could come to even a quasi consensus on another wagon to push for it might be beneficial for increasing voting activity otherwise we might be looking at a Star lynch with just a few people on it and most everyone else either on a vote alone or not voting at all. I'm okay with a Star lynch still but when I posited that those pushing for her should make a stronger argument for why she's the best lynch today and got silence in return it didn't exactly fill me with confidence.
In regards to Star, I actually have a bit of a bad gut feeling on her. Her vote on day 2 is against her, voting Ouro/Kk over Kitsu/FEP. She didn't have too many strong read last I checked. She had a very wishy washy read of Kitsu... who was scum. It actually didn't quite feel like fumbling town Star, rather reminded me of Star from Gods and Men. I presented this to Crimson in the love boat, and he had his own thought process for voting Star, so...
Hard to organize my thoughts on mobile. Ugh.
Hard to organize my thoughts on mobile. Ugh.
Going to go to bed but I'll put this down as thoughts just so people have an idea where I am at. I'll only explain things I haven't previously said or want to add more too.
Locked town
franconp and Dr. Worm - I don't see how they can be scum. No one is throwing even the slightest bit of shade at them (except for fran's tendency to tunnel) and if memory serves, they were early on the kitsune train.
Probably town
monkey and Flush - This is 100% based on my own PR but I think town hooker makes a lot more sense when some of the town roles you can block are less than optimal. Ignoring that though, monkey is going strong on solving and Flush was no slouch either.
Natiko and Sparks - Natiko has played a great game and has dug in tonight with real questions. nin would have us examine Sparks more while ignoring half the equation but even Sparks on his own plays like someone who isn't trying to impress and with his skill level, I'd expect a scum team to have asked him to cool it a bit.
Null
Star and AB
rac and acohrs - I dropped this back to null because for the most part I liked Muffin and Sam and I still think that was a town tell at the beginning of the game but rac and acohrs haven't done much at all. Looking at it from a fresh angle, I'd call them scummy but I don't want to just ignore the people who came before.
Probably Scum
Trigger and Ty
Xbro and Kark
Darryl and nin - I know a lot probably think I'm scum reading them as an OMGUS and that is kind of playing into the real reason but I do think Darryl is purposely taking bit and pieces of my arguments to get a good negative narrative going and nin, slightly harder to read because he kind of does this all the time anyway, just feels like he is always trying to undermine people. Not actually attacking their arguments but knocking the person to make the argument hold less weight,
Locked town
franconp and Dr. Worm - I don't see how they can be scum. No one is throwing even the slightest bit of shade at them (except for fran's tendency to tunnel) and if memory serves, they were early on the kitsune train.
Probably town
monkey and Flush - This is 100% based on my own PR but I think town hooker makes a lot more sense when some of the town roles you can block are less than optimal. Ignoring that though, monkey is going strong on solving and Flush was no slouch either.
Natiko and Sparks - Natiko has played a great game and has dug in tonight with real questions. nin would have us examine Sparks more while ignoring half the equation but even Sparks on his own plays like someone who isn't trying to impress and with his skill level, I'd expect a scum team to have asked him to cool it a bit.
Null
Star and AB
rac and acohrs - I dropped this back to null because for the most part I liked Muffin and Sam and I still think that was a town tell at the beginning of the game but rac and acohrs haven't done much at all. Looking at it from a fresh angle, I'd call them scummy but I don't want to just ignore the people who came before.
Probably Scum
Trigger and Ty
Xbro and Kark
Darryl and nin - I know a lot probably think I'm scum reading them as an OMGUS and that is kind of playing into the real reason but I do think Darryl is purposely taking bit and pieces of my arguments to get a good negative narrative going and nin, slightly harder to read because he kind of does this all the time anyway, just feels like he is always trying to undermine people. Not actually attacking their arguments but knocking the person to make the argument hold less weight,
Real question. She was neutral in gods and men right? What would that have to do with being scum here? She wasn't afforded any extra info there as a neutral if I remember correctly.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=245844282&postcount=2471
Wishy washy read of Kitsu in question
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=245850984&postcount=2564
Weak justification for voting Ouro
Wishy washy read of Kitsu in question
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=245850984&postcount=2564
Weak justification for voting Ouro
She was neutral, yeah, not scum. But I felt like her play style was a bit different because she wasn't town. A gut read for sure, but I feel slightly better about it due to her votes and reads.
Bit of a side tangent, but I'm curious and don't feel like searching for the info when some here likely know off the top of their head:
Love Boat 1 was 11 town, 3 scum, 1 neutral pairs right? Was the neutral closer to town aligned or scum aligned? Mainly just want to know if we should at least consider the idea of 4 scum pairs at game start instead of the 3 I (and I believe most of us) have been assuming.
Love Boat 1 was 11 town, 3 scum, 1 neutral pairs right? Was the neutral closer to town aligned or scum aligned? Mainly just want to know if we should at least consider the idea of 4 scum pairs at game start instead of the 3 I (and I believe most of us) have been assuming.
hey_monkey
Banned
Okay, I promised more on Tygger, so: brief recap - I started out, during my catch-up phase, noting a very particular guiding style of play from Ty4on. A little wise sage, a little conversation nudging, very experienced player (this is after early discussions on shitposting, btw; I kinda write a lot of early stuff off for everyone). Trigger, though, was a nonentity. In our chat, I noted to Flush that it felt like Ty was trying very much to appear a town leader. But once I noticed his consistent vote on kitsune, I wrote him off and said definitely town. I didn't even look back until later. But some of the Trigger/Ty interactions, such as they are, got me to look back, and since Sorian did mention, even as a sort of throwaway aside, that Ty could well be committed to bussing, and with some of the other discussions in here about bussing as part of the meta, I have become more and more convinced that it's within possibility for Ty and Trigger to be scum who bussed fepkits.
So after the above, watching Ty and Trigger's pattern of participation in the thread is what set me off. I mentioned it here and AbBro answered me in what I find one of his most significant contributions to the thread thus far, for what it's worth, saying:
Bold is mine. Now, there's been some commentary about Trigger often being quite in the meta and Ty at one point says Trigger always plays like this, and that may be; Mafia Data has him at 6 games and 310 total posts previously. But what we see from them indicates that Trigger is not quiet in their chat:
In this one, they have apparently been talking about reads, which we didn't get from Trigger himself:
Here they are talking about kits:
This one is less and may be more of Ty's assumption:
But in a few other posts (here's one of them), Trigger references chat in their boat. So apparently something's happening, but we're getting a very filtered version and that feels cautious for town. Very cautious and very calculated.
I find this lack of a trail very suspicious. They've done some work at solving the game, but more and more I wonder if it's surface, and Ty avoiding my initial pushes on this subject makes it more suspicious. What would a townie have to hide here?
(and, of course, you can't "always" play by having your partner report out for you because you don't usually have a partner).
Further, I see Ty layering some things in his posts against me that I find fascinating. But I'll get to that in the next one, with vote analysis.
So after the above, watching Ty and Trigger's pattern of participation in the thread is what set me off. I mentioned it here and AbBro answered me in what I find one of his most significant contributions to the thread thus far, for what it's worth, saying:
Bold is mine. Now, there's been some commentary about Trigger often being quite in the meta and Ty at one point says Trigger always plays like this, and that may be; Mafia Data has him at 6 games and 310 total posts previously. But what we see from them indicates that Trigger is not quiet in their chat:
In this one, they have apparently been talking about reads, which we didn't get from Trigger himself:
Here they are talking about kits:
This one is less and may be more of Ty's assumption:
But in a few other posts (here's one of them), Trigger references chat in their boat. So apparently something's happening, but we're getting a very filtered version and that feels cautious for town. Very cautious and very calculated.
I find this lack of a trail very suspicious. They've done some work at solving the game, but more and more I wonder if it's surface, and Ty avoiding my initial pushes on this subject makes it more suspicious. What would a townie have to hide here?
(and, of course, you can't "always" play by having your partner report out for you because you don't usually have a partner).
Further, I see Ty layering some things in his posts against me that I find fascinating. But I'll get to that in the next one, with vote analysis.
hey_monkey
Banned
Continued:
So I started pushing this idea last day phase and I'd asked a few times. This phase when I asked again, Ty acted oblivious:
And then, because apparently I answered for AbBro - when really I was continuing to try to push an argument I'd been making, we get this:
So he doesn't want to lynch StarBro, but I look scummy with them for pushing Ty to finally give me an answer?
Sawneeks also noticed his evasion and asked about it. Ty reported that my posts were "long" and sure, I do write some long posts (observe!) but I can also produce plenty examples of short posts of me directly asking him what was up with this behavior. Sawneeks and I both countered, and here's Ty again, this time with my emphasis:
Two things here: again, he's acting like he just didn't see my questions about his and Trigger's approach and I 100% do not believe that. I do believe he didn't have an answer. Second, with the slippery little shade there - we often refer to summary posts as fake reads. Just summary. Just fluff. But I'm not just summarizing the game and what happened. You can't analyze without some summary and recap - that's evidence. I think Ty is trying to throw shade at me without being too obvious and to try to foster an environment in which my questions to him go ignored.
Votes are really fascinating with Tygger, too. Day 1, Ty votes xKark and kits, dropping and revoting for each once. No other votes. Final vote was on kits. Trigger, on the other hand, did not vote at all D1.
D2: Ty votes for kits early, very early, and stays there. Trigger also voted there, but late. Late as in with three minutes to go, when it was pretty clear what was happening. Only Xbro voted after Trigger on that train.
(this is also a very interesting post from Trigger, btw, and I don't mean because it might have been meant to be bust, but because of the vote motivation he references)
D3: Ty votes pretty late, for me, after he cooled on me - first he was saying I started out strong and then suddenly I had an "agenda" and that I seemed to want to widen the lynchpool. Of course, this is also the day we were all, and I mean all, after OuroKitty - and yet Ty never voted them. Ty instead voted me, essentially trying to widen the lynchpool. This was pre-claim, btw. Trigger again did not vote.
Now, on D4: as of the last count, Trigger has not voted, Ty voted for XKark. It's the only vote on them at the moment. He calls it a late vote, but it's before the middle of the day phase and he says he "dislike(s) the lack of voting trails." One would think then he might encourage his partner to vote.
tl;dr: Ty and Trigger have actually made very few moves this game and seem to have more going on in their boat than they do here. They are evasive and clearly not being open with us, so what do they have to hide?
So I started pushing this idea last day phase and I'd asked a few times. This phase when I asked again, Ty acted oblivious:
And then, because apparently I answered for AbBro - when really I was continuing to try to push an argument I'd been making, we get this:
So he doesn't want to lynch StarBro, but I look scummy with them for pushing Ty to finally give me an answer?
Sawneeks also noticed his evasion and asked about it. Ty reported that my posts were "long" and sure, I do write some long posts (observe!) but I can also produce plenty examples of short posts of me directly asking him what was up with this behavior. Sawneeks and I both countered, and here's Ty again, this time with my emphasis:
Two things here: again, he's acting like he just didn't see my questions about his and Trigger's approach and I 100% do not believe that. I do believe he didn't have an answer. Second, with the slippery little shade there - we often refer to summary posts as fake reads. Just summary. Just fluff. But I'm not just summarizing the game and what happened. You can't analyze without some summary and recap - that's evidence. I think Ty is trying to throw shade at me without being too obvious and to try to foster an environment in which my questions to him go ignored.
Votes are really fascinating with Tygger, too. Day 1, Ty votes xKark and kits, dropping and revoting for each once. No other votes. Final vote was on kits. Trigger, on the other hand, did not vote at all D1.
D2: Ty votes for kits early, very early, and stays there. Trigger also voted there, but late. Late as in with three minutes to go, when it was pretty clear what was happening. Only Xbro voted after Trigger on that train.
(this is also a very interesting post from Trigger, btw, and I don't mean because it might have been meant to be bust, but because of the vote motivation he references)
D3: Ty votes pretty late, for me, after he cooled on me - first he was saying I started out strong and then suddenly I had an "agenda" and that I seemed to want to widen the lynchpool. Of course, this is also the day we were all, and I mean all, after OuroKitty - and yet Ty never voted them. Ty instead voted me, essentially trying to widen the lynchpool. This was pre-claim, btw. Trigger again did not vote.
Now, on D4: as of the last count, Trigger has not voted, Ty voted for XKark. It's the only vote on them at the moment. He calls it a late vote, but it's before the middle of the day phase and he says he "dislike(s) the lack of voting trails." One would think then he might encourage his partner to vote.
tl;dr: Ty and Trigger have actually made very few moves this game and seem to have more going on in their boat than they do here. They are evasive and clearly not being open with us, so what do they have to hide?
After my initial gut read and saying that everyone could be a potential scum player in my eyes I am feeling better putting my vote down on these people.
Vote: Sophia
I still have my reservations about several players, especially how hey monkey reacted the way he did only because I called sparks out.
Pathetic to say the least
Vote: Sophia
I still have my reservations about several players, especially how hey monkey reacted the way he did only because I called sparks out.
Pathetic to say the least
- "...straightforward, so nothing to really follow"
Shouldn't that be easy to follow?
- "Sophia and Crimson just seem like they're playing..."
Ty who would you likely vote out today ?
I'm not sure, but kinda looking at XbroKark
Wait, if we lynch Xbro/Kark and they flip scum we'll know scum was chatblocked D2...
hmmm
Indeed, what do we have to hide? Like what's the end game of your assumption here? In a lover's game it's not unusual for us to have side discussion. My presence in the thread has been spotty, so Ty just wanted to add stuff I mentioned in our chat. I'm not sure where you think this thread will lead.
To answer your earlier question, I just don't like the timing of Sawrian's claim. I just don't see the point in it. I've been very reluctant to reveal myself the past when I've played as a PR. It's more of a style thing I guess. They've provided their logic for why they're claiming.
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DAY 4 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
StarSketch & AbsolutBro (4)
Natiko 3473 3523
franconp 3527
CrimsonFist 3663
Nomadic Sparks 3669
Sophia 3730
Xbro & Karkador (2)
Ty4on 3752
Trigger 3793
Sawneeks & Sorian (2)
CrimsonFist 3472 3663
acohrs 3654
Darryl 3670
CrimsonFist & Sophia (2)
Natiko 3676
nin1000 3786
rac & acohrs (1)
Sawneeks 3494
Trigger & Ty4on (1)
Sorian 3530 3689
hey_monkey 3711
Darryl & nin1000 (1)
Nomadic Sparks 3583 3669
Sorian 3689
Natiko & Nomadic Sparks (0):nin1000 3547 3786
No active vote for Day 4: AbsolutBro, Dr. Worm, Karkador, rac, Royal_Flush, StarSketch, Xbro
Day 4 Postcount: AbsolutBro 2, acohrs 14, CrimsonFist 26, Darryl 14, Dr. Worm 8, franconp 18, hey_monkey 37, Karkador 2, Natiko 43, nin1000 19, Nomadic Sparks 8, rac 6, Royal_Flush 0, Sawneeks 17, Sophia 22, Sorian 36, StarSketch 4, Trigger 3, Ty4on 30, Xbro 6
Day 4 ends:
Automated vote tally here
11 votes for majority
StarSketch & AbsolutBro (4)
franconp 3527
CrimsonFist 3663
Nomadic Sparks 3669
Sophia 3730
Xbro & Karkador (2)
Ty4on 3752
Trigger 3793
Sawneeks & Sorian (2)
acohrs 3654
Darryl 3670
CrimsonFist & Sophia (2)
Natiko 3676
nin1000 3786
rac & acohrs (1)
Sawneeks 3494
Trigger & Ty4on (1)
hey_monkey 3711
Darryl & nin1000 (1)
Sorian 3689
Natiko & Nomadic Sparks (0):
No active vote for Day 4: AbsolutBro, Dr. Worm, Karkador, rac, Royal_Flush, StarSketch, Xbro
Day 4 Postcount: AbsolutBro 2, acohrs 14, CrimsonFist 26, Darryl 14, Dr. Worm 8, franconp 18, hey_monkey 37, Karkador 2, Natiko 43, nin1000 19, Nomadic Sparks 8, rac 6, Royal_Flush 0, Sawneeks 17, Sophia 22, Sorian 36, StarSketch 4, Trigger 3, Ty4on 30, Xbro 6
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What do you expect to know if the scum chat was blocked D2?
Also, to really know that you would need to flip RoyalMonkey as they could also be scum and KarkBro just lied about being silenced (unlikely as noone has claimed silenced today and having 2 shots seems logic).
I may be seeing too much from this, but there could be some signs someone's chat was blocked.
I don't think both are lying. Occam's razor says Xbro and Kark were blocked.
Royal_Flush
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I'm back but don't have a lot of time until after day end. I only read the current page so far and know from our chat that Sawrian claimed Town Hooker (which seems to be a very odd role in the setup as far as I have seen it). Anything else I need to know? I asked monkey to give me a quick summary but she didn't respond so far. I'll try to catch up but no promises.
Festival was great btw.
Festival was great btw.
Our role PM says it's the whole Scum chat.
The neutral was scum aligned, their wincon was to block 3 (2?) chats but their silence did not work on scum.
I had assumed that chat being blocked was be all end all so if they hit scum then the entire team couldn't post in chat but it's true that I don't think they mentioned how this would work? I could easily have missed that detail though.
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