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JustinBB7 · Mar 26, 2012

pnn said:
The abomination called Kellymilkies might be in SK's Dota 2 female team.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SKDota

Haha the comments, this guy:

始終 後疑 帶斯 posted on March 14, 2012 @ 6:41pm
photos pls? wanna shoose my favorite girl-star

Deadly · Mar 26, 2012

pnn said:
The abomination called Kellymilkies might be in SK's Dota 2 female team.http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SKDota

wtf? So they give the boot to a great team (now Quantic) and decide to do a female team instead?

Ikuu · Mar 26, 2012

Old SK wanted to get a salary and SK didn't think it was worth the money at the moment, with this team they'll probably just be sending them some free gear and getting the name about.

Tenck · Mar 26, 2012

Deadly said:
wtf? So they give the boot to a great team (now Quantic) and decide to do a female team instead?

Anything wrong with a female team?

Archie · Mar 26, 2012

It's more of the fact that kellymilkies is one of the most unprofessional people in esports

Tenck · Mar 26, 2012

Saw a stupid hat, instantly closed video.

JustinBB7 · Mar 26, 2012

Wow she does sound like a horrible person.

ksan · Mar 26, 2012

JustinBB7 said:
Wow she does sound like a horrible person.

Doesn't help that she got to cast GSL Code A too, while being shitty as fuck at casting.
People have good reasons to think she's a piece of shit.

Also, even worse... She's dating Loda... CLG is dead to me.

and Loda allegedly challenged tobi to a 1v1 (or something, I don't fucking know, weird as fuck however). Because tobi called kellymilkies out

Dina · Mar 26, 2012

Tenck said:
Saw a stupid hat, instantly closed video.

LoL dude doesn't say a thing, so you can watch it.

JustinBB7 · Mar 26, 2012

ksan said:
Doesn't help that she got to cast GSL Code A too, while being shitty as fuck at casting.
People have good reasons to think she's a piece of shit.

Also, even worse... She's dating Loda... CLG is dead to me.

and I'm Loda allegedly challenged tobi to a 1v1 (or something, I don't fucking know, weird as fuck however). Because tobi called kellymilkies out

Lmao, what a tough guy. 1vs1 in real life i own u!!

Spookie · Mar 26, 2012

JustinBB7 said:
Wow she does sound like a horrible person.

Yurp.

ksan · Mar 26, 2012

* Presented by Killy Milkies and Tobi Wan

DDDDDDD:

PillowKnight · Mar 26, 2012

Tenck said:
Anything wrong with a female team?

Yes there is, why is there a need for a female team? Seems like it's just to exploit gaming nerds. Making an all girl team is just exploiting sexuality more than anything, if they are actually there to compete why not just join a team?

If girls want to compete, let them build a team compete with the other teams like everyone else.

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

Yeah its not like physical sports where men clearly have a advantage, this is Esports E.

Tenck · Mar 26, 2012

PillowKnight said:
Yes there is, why is there a need for a female team? Seems like it's just to exploit gaming nerds. Making an all girl team is just exploiting sexuality more than anything, if they are actually there to compete why not just join a team?

If girls want to compete, let them build a team compete with the other teams like everyone else.

They're getting sponsored like all the other pro teams. They built their team like everyone else. There's nothing wrong with that.

And exploiting sexuality? Going to win all their games by distracting the guys?

Edit: And to add to my post, why is there a need for all male teams? Women should have the same privileges of forming their own team to compete if they want to.

PillowKnight · Mar 26, 2012

Tenck said:
They're getting sponsored like all the other pro teams. They built their team like everyone else. There's nothing wrong with that.

And exploiting sexuality? Going to win all their games by distracting the guys?

Edit: And to add to my post, why is there a need for all male teams? Women should have the same privileges of forming their own team to compete if they want to.

What major tournaments have these players won? Amatuer tournaments?
Are they currently scrimming against the top teams?

Answer me this, why is this team being sponsored when there are already established successful teams that lack sponsors?

Edit, let me answer more fully: Those are all things players do before they are signed onto sponsored teams. The fact that this all girl team just by-passed the current structure of team sponsorship tells you something about the motivations for creating this team.

If anything, the creation of this team is extremely misogynistic, it implies that women can't simply compete and reach the pro level, that they need to have their achievements handed out to them.

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

cdyhybrid said:
How do you guys build Spectre?

Starting items, Quelling Blade, Regen and Branches.

Boots -> Vitality Booster -> Power Treads -> Sacred Relic -> Radiance > Heart of Tarrasque

Skills first 6.
Spectral Dagger
Dispersion
Spectral Dagger
Dispersion
Spectral Dagger
Haunt

And don't afk rice always use your ulti to tp to your clone to help in team fights or teammate to turn the fight around.

Deadly · Mar 26, 2012

PillowKnight said:
What major tournaments have these players won? Amatuer tournaments?
Are they currently scrimming against the top teams?

Answer me this, why is this team being sponsored when there are already established successful teams that lack sponsors?

Edit, let me answer more fully: Those are all things players do before they are signed onto sponsored teams. The fact that this all girl team just by-passed the current structure of team sponsorship tells you something about the motivations for creating this team.

If anything, the creation of this team is extremely misogynistic, it implies that women can't simply compete and reach the pro level, that they need to have their achievements handed out to them.

Pretty much nails it. If they were really competing on the same level as everyone else, they'd be looking to join other teams individually.

ksan · Mar 26, 2012

DAMN, Na'Vi with three games tonight?

First game starting soon, seems like the server is weirding out though...

Ikuu · Mar 26, 2012

Tenck said:
They're getting sponsored like all the other pro teams. They built their team like everyone else. There's nothing wrong with that.

And exploiting sexuality? Going to win all their games by distracting the guys?

According to GosuGamers they've only played two games, and lost them both.

ksan said:
DAMN, Na'Vi with three games tonight?

First game starting soon, seems like the server is weirding out though...

XBOCT is stuck in traffic so it's just music for now.

ksan · Mar 26, 2012

Ikuu said:
XBOCT is stuck in traffic so it's just music for now.

Oh, that too? I think they tried to start the draft without him, and it said finding servers for like 3-4 minutes and still didn't find one.

edit:
Mouz vs. Ex-Next.kz on the Russian starladder stream
I don't think there's any English cast of it :/
and wtf... they're playing with scandal....

and drayich is done with dota

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

Tenck said:
They're getting sponsored like all the other pro teams.

Wrong. Pro teams earn their sponsorship by competing at the highest level.

Tenck said:
They built their team like everyone else. There's nothing wrong with that.

Wrong. Team building process get the best players not get the best female only players.

Tenck said:
And exploiting sexuality? Going to win all their games by distracting the guys?

Wrong. To get exposure for their sexuality not their skills.

Tenck said:
why is there a need for all male teams? Women should have the same privileges of forming their own team to compete if they want to.

I'm confused. Is this all female team going to compete with the men's team or is there going to be separation.

oc · Mar 26, 2012

I think you guys are just intimidated.

vinicius · Mar 26, 2012

I'm so hungry I could eat a
found on reddit/deviantart. The scale is not right, tho.

BeesEight · Mar 26, 2012

Sanjay said:
I'm confused. Is this all female team going to compete with the men's team or is there going to be separation.

Isn't there a separate female dota league in Asia? Maybe that's what they're building for?

Deadly · Mar 26, 2012

Whoa what did I miss? It was like 7-1 for Na'Vi, I left for a few minutes and now its 15-14?

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

BeesEight said:
Isn't there a separate female dota league in Asia? Maybe that's what they're building for?

Sheeeeeeeit.

Schweinehund · Mar 26, 2012

cdyhybrid said:
You guys actually "pick" heros? YOU DON'T RANDOM?! I feel like I'm in crazy town. Random master race.

Depends on how I feel.

Randoming Lich is no fun at all.

Single Draft is best mode if you're in the mood for surprises.

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

Big throws by Navi.

ksan · Mar 26, 2012

ROFL, Na´Vi throwing

edit: oh, it's a bo3?
Standard Na´Vi then...

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

ksan said:
ROFL, Na´Vi throwing

Yes DS Vacuum right in front of the other team, letting them know its under CD.

pieatorium · Mar 26, 2012

darkseer midgame feed ftw lol

dorkimoe · Mar 26, 2012

How anti-mage ever makes it through any banning picks is always a mystery. Still the douchiest hero

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

ES and QoP were MVP for that game, AM was there to just clean up.

Balehead · Mar 26, 2012

Damn shame I missed most of the first game, good games from aL after the yesterday's shaky performance.

Guesong · Mar 26, 2012

Those commentators talking like aL "upsetting" Na'Vi was a big surprise.

aL is freakin' good and we all know it, wtf are they smoking

Neki · Mar 26, 2012

Tenck said:
They're getting sponsored like all the other pro teams. They built their team like everyone else. There's nothing wrong with that.

And exploiting sexuality? Going to win all their games by distracting the guys?

Edit: And to add to my post, why is there a need for all male teams? Women should have the same privileges of forming their own team to compete if they want to.

I just don't understand why it's an all female team. Is there something special about being all female that warrants a team? Where is my all black team, all asian team, all Filipino team, all blue-eyed team?

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

Guesong said:
Those commentators talking like aL "upsetting" Na'Vi was a big surprise.

aL is freakin' good and we all know it, wtf are they smoking

Anyone that beats the best will always be an upset.

Ultimoo said:
I just don't understand why it's an all female team. Is there something special about being all female that warrants a team? Where is my all black team, all asian team, all Filipino team, all blue-eyed team?

I want a all Rice team, na mean.

dorkimoe · Mar 26, 2012

is he really going to shoutout to like thousands of people?

Guesong · Mar 26, 2012

Sanjay said:
Anyone that beats the best will always be an upset.

Since when is Na'Vi is objectively, unarguably classified as "the best"?

They may not be many in that top tier team category, but I'd put aL on par with Na'Vi anyday.

Finalow · Mar 26, 2012

I missed NaVi games. dem.

1.09 · Mar 26, 2012

Ultimoo said:
I just don't understand why it's an all female team. Is there something special about being all female that warrants a team? Where is my all black team, all asian team, all Filipino team, all blue-eyed team?

all asian - ccm, eh, lgd, ig, insert-chinese-team-here
all Filipino - happyfeet, mineski, all those SEA teams
all blue-eyed - shakira, panzer, da germans
all black - uh...dammit.

Sanjay · Mar 26, 2012

Guesong said:
Since when is Na'Vi is objectively, unarguably classified as "the best"?

They may not be many in that top tier team category, but I'd put aL on par with Na'Vi anyday.

International champions, by right :|

1.09 said:
all black - uh...dammit.

Milk, Demon, Swag, JudgeN & Moody..

Neki · Mar 26, 2012

1.09 said:
all asian - ccm, eh, lgd, ig, insert-chinese-team-here
all Filipino - happyfeet, mineski, all those SEA teams
all blue-eyed - shakira, panzer, da germans
all black - uh...dammit.

all black - swag, judgen, moodyshuffle, lamarcus and milkman

amirite guiz

Blast Processing · Mar 26, 2012

What's the best site for character skill and item builds?

Alternatively, what item builds would you recommend for Windrunner or Bounty Hunter?

zombieshavebrains · Mar 26, 2012

Blast Processing said:
What's the best site for character skill and item builds?

Alternatively, what item builds would you recommend for Windrunner or Bounty Hunter?

Playdota

Guesong · Mar 26, 2012

Sanjay said:
International champions, by right :|

That was the very first tournament. Which, despite having more prestige, is just like any other tournament. (And they had ArtStyle, for what it matters). If the very first tournament had been a joinDOTA Master, what would you be saying?

Meanwhile 2 months ago, for...I don't know what tourney precisely in which Na'Vi was also participating, I think it was The Defence, aL was just stomping through teams. And I mean stomping. They were literally invincible during that period.

Sure, Na'Vi won the very first tournament of DotA2's existence, a high profile tournament, but that was 6-7 months ago already. Lots of things have changed, both in and out of the game itself. It's like in Tennis ; just because a player won the first Grand Slam of the year does not mean everyone else is suddendly the underdog for all subsequents tournaments.

Neki · Mar 26, 2012

Guesong said:
That was the very first tournament. Which, despite having more prestige, is just like any other tournament. (And they had ArtStyle, for what it matters). If the very first tournament had been a joinDOTA Master, what would you be saying?

Meanwhile 2 months ago, for...I don't know what tourney precisely in which Na'Vi was also participating, I think it was The Defence, aL was just stomping through teams. And I mean stomping. They were literally invincible during that period.

Sure, Na'Vi won the very first tournament of DotA2's existence, a high profile tournament, but that was 6-7 months ago already. Lots of things have changed, both in and out of the game itself. It's like in Tennis ; just because a player won the first Grand Slam of the year does not mean everyone else is suddendly the underdog for all subsequents tournaments.

pretty sure Na'Vi won the Premier League too.

ksan · Mar 26, 2012

Guesong said:
Since when is Na'Vi is objectively, unarguably classified as "the best"?

They may not be many in that top tier team category, but I'd put aL on par with Na'Vi anyday.

Na´Vi is by far the best team, there is quite a gap to the next team.
People just start challenging the fact when there is some online weekly/monthly/non-important match and they don't play their best and quite obviously pick heroes that they are not used to playing. Same thing happened when they first picked VS a couple of months ago and lost...

The only major tournament they entered and didn't place first in was due to the infamous double dd, which even got patched shortly after. (and they didn't go to DH)

edit: Just look at the match history:
GosuGamers: Na´Vi
GosuGamers: aL
Na´Vi doesn't choke in important games, which I can't say for practically any other team.

JustinBB7 · Mar 26, 2012

Na'vi won the international, the defense and the premier league all in a row. I'm pretty sure that means they are the best. If they win the Joindota Masters too it will be hard to deny.

I don't even care, Dota can go everywhere in any match. AL just beat Navi twice, but last night they gave up after 10 minutes and called GG and disconnected in another match.

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