AzureSkies
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I'm happy about that.
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Polygon: Nintendo can give fans an amazing gift by slowly killing the 3DS
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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I'm happy about that.
James Scott
Banned
It's not like 3DS has too much left from Nintendo. Metroid is Probably the only thing good left. Pokémon seems like a pretty unambitious sequel/expansion pack and most other stuff seems like filler or remakes.
It'll die off soon enough but there's probably money to be made
It'll die off soon enough but there's probably money to be made
neurosisxeno
Member
Because Polygon wrote it. If Jim Sterling said it people would be coming out of the woodworks to agree, but since it's Kuchera (don't get me wrong, he's pretty hacky) he's clearly an idiot and the idea is stupid--despite the fact that focusing on 1 platform has been Nintendo's plan for quite a while now, hence why they released a "hybrid" system rather than a new handheld or a new console. They realize they don't/can't get 3rd party support, so they want to focus all the dev studios they can on a single device so they can get 1 major title out a month and keep sales going. Having 2 platforms to develop for makes that impossible.
DecoReturns
Member
I don't see anybody confusing the 3DS and a Switch honestly.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Until Nintendo manages to produce a pocket friendly Switch, my 3DS is still my go to portable device.
TwistedFreeze
Member
I don't completely disagree with the guy but I'd argue they're already planning on doing that. Most of Nintendo's own series are making their way to the Switch, like Fire Emblem and Pokemon, with the 3DS mainly being supported by 2nd / 3rd party developers. Nintendo's probably just gonna keep it around as a cheap alternative with a huge library of games to offer, even though it's not getting much internal support from Nintendo, alongside the Switch till 3DS sales slow to a crawl
When a new console is announced, all games and systems from the previous gen should stop being sold. Turn off all online services for previous systems too. Stop confusing customers! /s
3DS/2DS is in a great spot in terms of price and has a great library of games. Too soon to kill it.
3DS/2DS is in a great spot in terms of price and has a great library of games. Too soon to kill it.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
It helps that there's also a Metroid game coming out on Switch.
Maybe they're scared Nintendo will for whatever reason not do that? Lol, I dunno. It is pretty silly to make this article after something like Pokemon and co. is confirmed for the Switch.
That said, the article is not saying the 3DS should die off immediately, so a lot of these posts are quite odd in how they're managing to perceive the article as stating otherwise.
All their internal dev teams are already moving on? Basically every upcoming 3DS game from Nintendo is outsourced. Exceptions are Kirby and Pokémon, but we know both of these have main series games under development for Switch.
James Scott
Banned
Should probably rephrase this. I'm sure plenty are excited to play Metroid. Maybe could've been on both like Castlevania MoF
JimmyF
Member
Me, don't own a switch yet, also Nintendo was pretty clear they will support 3ds till 2018.
WrenchNinja
Member
It must suck to be a Switch owner and be this perpetually salty over the 3DS
sure. Samus Returns has the map and all that good stuff on the bottom screen. I'd buy the 3DS version over a Switch version hands down.
applies to RPGs too. probably most genres unless the game is heavily dependent on performance like Fire Emblem Warriors. otherwise I'll take the resolution and fps drops it doesn't bother me much
SoundPulse
Banned
I'll admit I skimmed it. That was more in reference to the posts I've seen in other threads (and on other Nintendo forums I frequent) that called for the 3DS being dead and buried the second the Switch launched.
neurosisxeno
Member
...in like 2019...
My first thought was "God dammit Ben Kuchera" and sure enough!
Making all future titles also hit Switch would've been nice admittedly. Don't need to smother the 3DS in its sleep though.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Switch is getting one too. Don't really see the problem.
Personally I like it just because I have a 3DS, and the grand gift of a Switch is something I can't really justify given its current availability and lineup.
GiantBreadbug
Member
Time for a Polygon Chart
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Deleted member 1235
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Nintendo is lucky they have polygon to advise them on their business decisions, they should fire all the people responsible for making billions of dollars with two lines of really fucking popular hardware and bet it all on switch!
neurosisxeno
Member
We're talking about a corporation here. Not the Make a Wish Foundation.
Claude Augario
Member
Some point in the future, there will be people complaining that the Switch is getting games and needs to be killed.
I only own a 3ds, so yes. Plus there is a new Metroidgame coming to the Switch.
TwistedFreeze
Member
Well it's not as if those sales aren't making Nintendo money
Yeah. The Switch marketing has been pretty spot on so far.
In any case, I doubt people will be confused. The market is aware about both products and knows the Switch is here to stay. Releasing a few games this year won't change that.
People has always complained about Nintendo dropping systems like a rock like 12-18 months before the launch of a new device. The 3DS has had a really solid line up until now and people complain.
A handheld needs little space. There is no harm in having both in your room.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
So what?
Seems pretty clear they already are doing that. All the main stuff is on switch, and even handheld focused games like Pokémon and fire emblem are getting mainline switch games. 3ds makes money and is a good cheap system with a wonderful library for budget consumers and kids/families. I too am disappointed that games like samus returns aren't at least getting switch versions, but ultimately it's gonna be good for them to just keep selling 3ds's as long as people are willing to buy them and slowly phase development over to switch. Which again, is what they seem to be doing.
Magicpaint
Member
That's the thing. The premise of the entire article is pointless since the 3DS is very clearly in its twilight years anyway.
There are a couple of reasons it still lingers on:
1. Switch shortages
2. It attracts a different (possibly much more diverse) group of consumers with its price range and large library of games.
These reasons will fade naturally with time as the Switch builds it userbase, continually expands its library and the price comes down enough to include other consumer groups.
No doubt. And I will be the one defending the Switch not being completely cut off. I like the products I buy to have a long lifespan after all. Did the same for DS (when 3DS was new) and PS2 (when PS3 was new) etc.
Etrian Oddity
Member
For 2019.
For 2019.
I really don't get how hard it is for some folks to understand that it isn't unreasonable for people to want Nintendo to focus on their new system. There is zero reason for Samus Returns to not get a downloadable release for Switch.
polyh3dron
Banned
The sooner, the better. I'd rather see the next Fire Emblem game on the Switch.
James Scott
Banned
It's pretty weird. Like, I'd get more upset if Switch didn't have a fantastic line up and we were getting FE, Pokémon, and Metroid only on 3DS with no Switch announcement, but it's announced that they're moving on.
I don't think the 3DS has anything too interesting announced that I'd kill for on Switch, so to speak.
A date was never given
And? There are tens of millions of active 3ds users who are totally willing to buy more 3ds games. It's good for business and good for 3ds owners.
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
Polygon is seriously underestimating the vast amounts of people that can't just buy a $300 console for their kids (or themselves) but could maybe spare $80 for a 2DS. I don't think many people would toil over the decision; the two devices are in entirely different leagues.
Not to mention, this thinking goes counter to the foundation of the majority of successful products, which is to give people choice. There's a reason we have diet coke, coke zero, caffeine free coke, caffeine free diet coke, coca-cola life, cherry coke, vanilla coke, and classic coca-cola: because satisfying a multitude of needs and preferences is more profitable than removing choices and trying to force a "definitive" experience.
Not to mention, this thinking goes counter to the foundation of the majority of successful products, which is to give people choice. There's a reason we have diet coke, coke zero, caffeine free coke, caffeine free diet coke, coca-cola life, cherry coke, vanilla coke, and classic coca-cola: because satisfying a multitude of needs and preferences is more profitable than removing choices and trying to force a "definitive" experience.
Considering what the article says they should be doing is exactly what Nintendo is doing, what's the point of the article? It's blindingly obvious now that both mainline Pokemon and mainline FE have been announced for Switch that 3DS will be all but dead come the end of 2018.
A lot of the "Nintendo should scrap the 3DS!" talk seems to just be thinly veiled port begging for the two-or-maybe-three outsourced/rehashed games people care about. Would ya'll really be clamouring for Nintendo to go all "Old Yeller" on the 3DS if Metroid and a Pokemon full-price expansion hadn't been announced?
A lot of the "Nintendo should scrap the 3DS!" talk seems to just be thinly veiled port begging for the two-or-maybe-three outsourced/rehashed games people care about. Would ya'll really be clamouring for Nintendo to go all "Old Yeller" on the 3DS if Metroid and a Pokemon full-price expansion hadn't been announced?
They announced two new Metroid games. One for the 3DS and one for the Switch.
It's absolutely ridiculous to complain about that. This is basic business. You don't just drop a console overnight because you have a new one out. The smart thing to do is to continue to mildly support (which is what this is -- mild support) the old console if it's still doing well for a year or so after the new console is out
stan423321
Member
Polygon could give internet an amazing gift by gradually introducing quality control.
Imagine how hard would it be to buy a Switch if they did a core Pokemon on it this summer
Well yea, I agree.
The year is unconfirmed, and even then, and? It going to the Switch cements that they plan on killing the 3DS slowly, as it was that last big franchise to worry about. No shit we'd all love if at the very least the Switch got to share titles with the 3DS, but apparently Nintendo doesn't want to do that. And of course, as we all know by now, they're not gonna immediately kill it off.
The few remaining first party 3DS games (and hardware for that matter) we know about were greenlit long before the Switch launch, as a sensible backup plan, with no idea if it was going to be this successful. I can't imagine them approving anything else that isn't dirt cheap, outsourced or both. The situation looks worse than it is because of the healthy stream of late localisations, something fairly common on the portables and that the Switch will eventually benefit from in time.
When they are no longer talking about 3DS games on release without talking about the upcoming Switch game too, it's pretty obvious that virtually all of their focus going forward is already on the Switch. I'd be surprised if 3DS development took up even 5% of their resources now, it's not even four months after the Switch launched and they can't make them fast enough. Not really sure why even that isn't a fast enough transition, it seems like some pundits wouldn't have been happy unless the Switch launch video had it literally being played outdoors on top of a gravestone with the dual screen icon chiselled info it.
When they are no longer talking about 3DS games on release without talking about the upcoming Switch game too, it's pretty obvious that virtually all of their focus going forward is already on the Switch. I'd be surprised if 3DS development took up even 5% of their resources now, it's not even four months after the Switch launched and they can't make them fast enough. Not really sure why even that isn't a fast enough transition, it seems like some pundits wouldn't have been happy unless the Switch launch video had it literally being played outdoors on top of a gravestone with the dual screen icon chiselled info it.