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Cosmo: Guys Get Turned on When Women Orgasm...It's a Bad Thing (It'sTimetoStop.gif)
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This is not a thought exclusive to straight men.
TheTylerRob
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Everyone should be ashamed for everything
lvl99 Pixel
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so their solution is what exactly?
You're getting to that conclusion backwards.
The study concludes that since men feel lack of masculinity from precumming/ED that they presumably are feeling more masculine for making women cum.
The satisfaction that comes with making their partner cum is supposedly inherently an achievement that would then enforce their masculinity.
Therefore feeling pride in making your partner cum is problematic according to the researchers.
Michael F. Assbender
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I sure hope not. That would be awful selfish of them.
It's not about your vaginas, ladies.
Poor GRIMES
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We do though? There was literally a thread here the other day about Snoop Dogg (?) thinking the Earth was flat.
The research used to pen this article does not make that difference clear, or even attempt to make that difference clear. In fact, the researchers "we hypothesized that womens orgasms specifically function as a masculinity achievement for men." and then went about proving it via study, instead of trying to falsify it. Frankly, reading through this study it's quite flawed in its methodology and execution.
Michael F. Assbender
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MotionBlue
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I live in the bible belt of Canada. There isn't a more conservative area in my country. I've honestly heard women say they can "turn" a gay guy more often, but even that is only a handful of times.
echoshifting
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I love watching male partners get off too. Nothing is more arousing in sex than bringing your partner to climax imho
Not sure what could be wrong with that
Not sure what could be wrong with that
How About No
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I thought men were notorious for being woefully inadequate at giving women orgasms lol
Septimus Prime
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Yeah. It's also good to Switch things up once in a while.
This just seems like a completely natural uncontrollable reaction; both men and women often have this same reaction.
Obviously this concept of "men thinking they own women's orgasms" is bad; but I really don't buy their conclusion that the phenomenon they describe is at fault or is remotely problematic.
What IS problematic is the fact women's masturbation and other sexual activities are considered more shameful and less normalized than male masturbation. I feel like that's far more at the root of this problem with men thinking they own women's sexuality than the completely unchangeable fact that men will feel more powerful/masculine if they make a woman cum.
The problem lies in the idea that women don't otherwise cum and more importantly aren't supposed to otherwise cum.
Obviously this concept of "men thinking they own women's orgasms" is bad; but I really don't buy their conclusion that the phenomenon they describe is at fault or is remotely problematic.
What IS problematic is the fact women's masturbation and other sexual activities are considered more shameful and less normalized than male masturbation. I feel like that's far more at the root of this problem with men thinking they own women's sexuality than the completely unchangeable fact that men will feel more powerful/masculine if they make a woman cum.
The problem lies in the idea that women don't otherwise cum and more importantly aren't supposed to otherwise cum.
What if you say you're welcome without even waiting for a thank you?
chillybright
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This is the stupidest thing I have read for a long while.
But then if you do it will make you feel good and invalidate her orgasm you monster!
The researchers found a data point and plastered their pre-conceived conclusion on it.
Don't forget the tip. That needs pleasing too.
Chmpocalypse
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Um
Like, I don't want to say you're being sexist by posting something like this in response to a story about toxic sexual masculinity, but
Fuck it
You're being sexist.
chillybright
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How About No
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M0nochromatic
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I'd like to think it's somewhat subtle satire.
ThatGayWolf
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What a shit study and article. Study is deeply flawed and... Well, the article speaks for itself really.
Wuthering_Heights
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For some reason I'm imagining the soup nazi episode from Seinfeld.
You walk into the bedroom, you do not smile or talk, you take care of business, get up, say thank you, turn around and walk out of the room as quickly as possible.
chillybright
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And Samuel Jackson likes anime and Hentai.
I kid, yes.
However I, personally, lead more on the positive side of that social construction. From the study:
"For example, men might be motivated to attend to womens pleasure with zeal, no matter the circumstance, because their own sexual skill is perceived as the most important element in womens experiences of sexual pleasure."
And not on the negative:
"Conversely, there may be negative repercussions. Men may dismiss important contextual factors and/or womens own agency and experiences around sexual pleasure. For example, if men will not hear a womans insistence that she does not orgasm, does not want to try to orgasm, or orgasms only via nonpartnered stimulation (e.g., self-stimulation or toys), they may experience the absence of womens orgasms as a personal failure or even a challenge."
For me, the study is more indicative of general issues men having shit sexual education
(some don't know what constitutes rape) and that leading to the false impression that ONLY a man can make a women orgasm. I was actually more interested in the additional conclusions from the end of the study. Not that men HAVE to orgasm, but if they don't the sex is bad, they're missing out, you're missing out, and something is wrong. Again, from the study:
"The link between womens orgasms and mens masculinity supports this by suggesting how womens and mens desire to maintain mens feelings of masculinity could prompt medical misattributions of unfulfilled orgasm expectations, namely, when the absence of womens orgasm is treated by both male and female partners as a clinical problem leading to medical diagnoses of dysfunction and disorder."
Overall, interesting, but I'm not a fan of the article itself. Mostly the title. Well, mostly Cosmo.
What does Shaq think about Nep Nep though?
Chmpocalypse
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Hey look, someone who actually understands what the article is talking about.
I see her argument, I agree with it to an extent, the male ego is extensively documented and a man making a woman orgasm is seen as a pinnacle sexual achievement.
I don't think there's an equivalent for women, but then again, men cum when a light breeze touches their willy so it doesn't quite work the same.
I don't think there's an equivalent for women, but then again, men cum when a light breeze touches their willy so it doesn't quite work the same.
Samuel Jackson was a mistake. He's nothing but trash.
Is this actually the case, though? I feel like masturbatory aids and sex toys for women are much, much more normalized than they are for men.
Like, a girl owning a dildo or a vibe is a big "so what?", while a guy having a fleshlight or using a cock ring leans more towards a stigma of being a deviant or having dysfunction.
blame space
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i derive no pleasure from this or anything
buttery fistful
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does the writer even realize the kind of stress and pressure we have to endure? obviously not
Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a negative stigma for female masturbation, at least not in the US.
Chmpocalypse
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You took "men's perceived sexual skill is the main reason women cum" as a positive?
You're basically demonstrating the article's thesis.
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