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|OT| French Presidential election - 2012 edition

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G.O.O.

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Hollande could have mentioned Belgium. The fucking country did better than us and they didn't even have a government for 3 years.
 
Alx

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Computer said:
"En effet mais Hollande s'est bien rattrapé, notamment en insistant lourdement sur le fait que Sarko est au pouvoir depuis 10 ans et a fait moins bien que l'Allemagne. A l'instant où j'écris, Sarko est selon moi nettement mené. Il est d'ailleurs sur la défensive, en train de défendre son bilan."
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oO where are you reading that ?
 
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G.O.O.

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And I don't have a list, it's from an article : http://www.liberation.fr/politiques/01012380855-crise-et-s-il-suffisait-de-ne-rien-faire

He quotes another one on the FT in English but I don't have an access :/
 
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Alx said:
That's funny, I'm getting the opposite feeling. Sarko is very calm and triggers many emotional reactions from Hollande.
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Sarkozy is throwing half truths and outright lies, Hollande has the right to get a little upset, people call him soft all the time.
 
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ComputerMKII

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Comments :

"Sarko me paraît franchement mauvais. Il faut dire que le premier thème est celui de l'économie, qui ne lui est pas favorable. Pour fixer les idées: Sarko est en train de se vanter de ne pas avoir supprimé l'ISF…"

"Hollande me paraît franchement mauvais, au moins Sarkozy ne bafouille pas, a des chiffres et des explications, est précis et se permet meme d'ironiser sur le programme de flanby qui est contradictoire. En revanche il a tendance à s'emporter un peu vite. Par contre sur le fond, Sarkozy ne trompe pas ceux qui connaissent les chiffres et la situation du pays, et ne trompent pas sur le fait qu'il n'a rien fait depuis 5 ans en matière de dette et d'impôts, il est franchement mauvais la dessus. Franchement c'est quand même vachement plus tendu et accroché sur d'autres débats présidentiels.

EDIT: sur les impôts Sarko se prend une rouste "
 
Alx

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Kurtofan said:
Sarkozy is losing the debate in my opinion, he is only attacking Hollande, and not proposing his own project.
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I think most people see it according to their own convictions. I've read both opinions, both from people mocking the candidate they don't support. (edit : exactly like in Computer's quotes above).
As for myself I think Sarkozy destroyed Hollande in the first hour, but Hollande is getting better right now. But Hollande really needs to calm down because he becomes terrible as soon as he gets excited.
 
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Also, draw = Sarko loses

Remember when he said he wanted 3 debates. People were expecting him to ruin Hollande after that.
 
Alx

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I'll give the edge on Sarko on that debate. He definitely dominated Hollande on the hot subjects (economy, Europe and foreign policy). Hollande held his own on education and immigration. Towards the end the discussion devolved into petty attacks and it kind of spoilt the effect.
I don't think this debate will move many opinions. It affected mine though : I definitely can't vote for Hollande, whom I don't trust on economy nor diplomacy (and he doesn't even come out as a very clever person). Blank is still an option, but I may vote for Sarko after all.
 
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