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christiankid7 · Dec 30, 2016

Sigma's moveset probably wouldn't be based on a single game. he'd probably have most of his weapons no matter what design they went with

How many weapons does he have anyway

BronsonLee · Dec 30, 2016

Sigma's moveset is gonna be based on Six Sigma and Common Core concepts

Bizazedo · Dec 30, 2016

BronsonLee said:
Sigma's moveset is gonna be based on Six Sigma and Common Core concepts

This post will not get enough admiration, but thumbs up from here.

BassForever · Dec 30, 2016

Ryce said:
The Sigma/Ultron boss fusion is based on Sigma's design from X1, so if he shows up as a standalone character he's likely to use that design for the sake of consistency. It's also his most iconic and recurring look (Dead Rising 3, Street Fighter X All Capcom).

How exactly from just the glowing eyes can you tell the hybrid boss is based upon x1 sigma?

Harpoon · Dec 30, 2016

BassForever said:
How exactly from just the glowing eyes can you tell the hybrid boss is based upon x1 sigma?

Because there's more than just the glowing eyes.

Jaeger · Dec 30, 2016

Hope we get a reference to Return X in the form of a color palette.

Sigmaah · Dec 30, 2016

Love the fact that y'all are talking about me. <3

Doctrine Dark · Dec 31, 2016

If Zero makes it in, I wonder if they'll change up his moveset a bit.

I cannot wait to see Sigma.

Troubled Bat · Dec 31, 2016

Sigmaah said:
Love the fact that y'all are talking about me. <3

Sigma > Sigmaah

IntelliHeath · Dec 31, 2016

Starphoenix said:
Pyrron, Sigma, Wesker, and Vergil sound like pretty good list of Capcom villains to me.

I wish I could throw Fou Lu into those list so easily. Only if Breath of Fire were popular enough.

Pejo said:
I just really hope Wesker makes it back in, he was so fun to play in MvC3.

me too, me too.

Choppasmith · Dec 31, 2016

Jaeger said:
Hope we get a reference to Return X in the form of a color palette.

Wait, what? What's the story behind this?

Jaeger · Dec 31, 2016

Choppasmith said:
Wait, what? What's the story behind this?

From the Carddass Mega Mission series.

TreIII · Dec 31, 2016

Ryce said:
The Sigma/Ultron boss fusion is based on Sigma's design from X1, so if he shows up as a standalone character he's likely to use that design for the sake of consistency. It's also his most iconic and recurring look (Dead Rising 3, Street Fighter X All Capcom).

The other thing I can imagine is to give him his own take on X's Armor Change/Upgrade mechanic. Have him start out in his base form, and perhaps give him access to his other forms via hypers.

If nothing else, it'd be a nice throwback to the X3 PSX/Windows anime intro where X and Sigma shifted between forms for their short-lived fight.

Pompadour · Dec 31, 2016

Have these tweets been discussed? They aren't specifically in regards to MvCI but it reveals what Capcom's thoughts were on certain possible additions to the roster during MvC3.

And it really makes me want Cloak & Dagger as a character.

Choppasmith · Dec 31, 2016

King Awesome said:
Have these tweets been discussed? They aren't specifically in regards to MvCI but it reveals what Capcom's thoughts were on certain possible additions to the roster during MvC3.

And it really makes me want Cloak & Dagger as a character.

Oh man, I had heard of some of these earlier in the thread, but I never got around to reading them fully.

I agree, I REALLY want to see Cloak and Dagger now. I have to wonder, if Rocket "just barely" best out Squirrel Girl, was she going to have a very similar moveset? I really want to see her too, as I said before, I think Capcom would feel a little obligated after that one Unbeatable SG cover.

BassForever · Dec 31, 2016

King Awesome said:
Have these tweets been discussed? They aren't specifically in regards to MvCI but it reveals what Capcom's thoughts were on certain possible additions to the roster during MvC3.

And it really makes me want Cloak & Dagger as a character.

I want to gaf -> internet -> gaf this but I honestly dunno the order of who found and translated these first

nded · Dec 31, 2016

Neoxon said:
If it's Jedah, I look forward to how they'll censor him.

Black blood?

The self decapitation and wrist cutting would probably be a no go, but most of his other attacks aren't that much more gruesome than, say, Nemesis.

TRUE ORDER · Dec 31, 2016

"Psylocke: Well-known, good design, and having Strider as a rival would've been interesting - but the fans' voices just weren't loud enough."

What? I know that I may sound like a broken record but she was one of the most requested character and maybe the top 1 female (don't remember correctly) on the polls.

Welp, I'll keep hoping for her inclusion

Ryce · Dec 31, 2016

TRUE ORDER said:
"Psylocke: Well-known, good design, and having Strider as a rival would've been interesting - but the fans' voices just weren't loud enough."

What? I know that I may sound like a broken record but she was one of the most requested character and maybe the top 1 female (don't remember correctly) on the polls.

Welp, I'll keep hoping for her inclusion

I think Niitsuma might mean "the fans' voices just weren't loud enough to convince Marvel to let us include another X-Men."

TRUE ORDER · Dec 31, 2016

Ryce said:
I think Niitsuma might mean "the fans' voices just weren't loud enough to convince Marvel to let us include another X-Men."

Oh right, forgot the whole Fox/Marvel drama for a while.

If Psylocke and Daredevil (a lock on IMO) end up being in the game, I'll die happy hahah

Doctrine Dark · Dec 31, 2016

Never seen it this bright before. You can definitely see Sigma's huge feet in this image.

Weiss · Dec 31, 2016

Yeah if those are feet then there's no way that's not Sigma.

mrmickfran · Dec 31, 2016

There can only be 1 Sigma theme

Skab · Dec 31, 2016

Uughghhhhh I need new info already

Neoxon · Dec 31, 2016

Ryce said:
I think Niitsuma might mean "the fans' voices just weren't loud enough to convince Marvel to let us include another X-Men."

The Marvel-Fox thing didn't become a big problem until late 2014.

J-Tier · Dec 31, 2016

Neoxon said:
The Marvel-Fox thing didn't become a big problem until late 2014.

I think he means that there were a lot of X-Men already and Psylocke would be one too many.

DR2K · Dec 31, 2016

J-Tier said:
I think he means that there were a lot of X-Men already and Psylocke would be one too many.

Take out X23 and give her moveset to someone else.

Neoxon · Dec 31, 2016

J-Tier said:
I think he means that there were a lot of X-Men already and Psylocke would be one too many.

That's a fair argument.

AnotherDayAnotherDollar · Dec 31, 2016

Neoxon said:
The Marvel-Fox thing didn't become a big problem until late 2014.

That is actually interesting because we know that's when Marvel was negotiating with Sony to get Spiderman back. An educated guess would be they were negotiating with Fox at the same time to get XMen and FF back and Fox either wanted too much or didn't wanna hear it, hence the fall out.

DerekOfTheDykes · Dec 31, 2016

This is purely speculative of course, but if the character Ryce is hinting at is Pyron, he could be Capcom's comic level counterpart to Thanos, since everyone assumes Thanos is going to ultimately be a larger threat than Ultron and Sigma. Pyron isn't dissimilar to Galactus in the Darkstalkers universe, and if you want Thanos to "merge" with a Capcom villain it wouldn't be farfetched for him to absorb Pyron's power with minimal design changes.

Granted, this makes a LOT of assumptions, some safe and some less so (that Thanos is returning, that he would be the main villain, that he needs a Capcom counterpart, etc). But if Thanos IS going to be the lead villain, it does seem weird to have such an interesting combo subvillain and then have the main villain only represent one of the two companies.

EDIT: In theory, if you have two hybrid villains they could both be made playable without unbalancing the roster count. But that's getting WAY ahead of myself.

Weiss · Dec 31, 2016

So here's a list of totally minor things I thought of.

I hope this game doesn't do the TvC thing where you start every match with the same character and then swap out. I wanna hear all the dialogue!

I'm wondering if this game doesn't follow up with two post-victory quotes the way MvC3 had it. I always thought that was a bit weird.

I really, really want the Arcade endings to be better than they were in 3 and especially Ultimate; for some reason they chopped out dialogue. Make them all at least three panels long and make sure they're funny, at least!

I'm not sure if I want this game to do the MvC3 thing where every alt colour is a reference to something, or something like the other Vs. games where you just had an assortment of random colours.

I want to be able to choose to fight All Capcom or All Marvel characters in Arcade. I have an irrational hatred for crossovers that don't let me do that.

J-Tier · Dec 31, 2016

Ultron/Sigma is a hint that there'll be an amalgam universe where the pairs merge.

Mega Iron Man X
Ultron-σ
Ryu in Tights
Captain America (Morrigan Aensland)

Ryce · Dec 31, 2016

I think it's likely that the Sigma Virus just infects Ultron or something like that.

cordy · Dec 31, 2016

Yeah...judging those feet it definitely looks like Sigma.

J-Tier · Dec 31, 2016

Ryce said:
I think it's likely that the Sigma Virus just infects Ultron or something like that.

Or Ultron's AI taking over Sigma. *shrugs*

Lulubop · Dec 31, 2016

X series getting a lot of love if that's Sigma. Already has a stage and X himself.

DerekOfTheDykes · Dec 31, 2016

Ryce said:
I think it's likely that the Sigma Virus just infects Ultron or something like that.

And likewise, Thanos could "just absorb" Pyron, much like Demitri did.

Granted, I'm just spitballing, and if it isn't Pyron you're probably having quite a chuckle at the theoretical knot I'm tying myself in!

Ryce · Dec 31, 2016

DerekOfTheDykes said:
Granted, I'm just spitballing, and if it isn't Pyron you're probably having quite a chuckle at the theoretical knot I'm tying myself in!

Indeed I am.

I said too much!

Harpoon · Dec 31, 2016

Ryce said:
Indeed I am.

I said too much!

Welp, guess it's not Pyron.

DerekOfTheDykes · Dec 31, 2016

Ryce said:
Indeed I am.

I said too much!

Ha! Knew it couldn't be so perfect.

I envy you, but also appreciate that you'd rather tease than reveal. Guided speculation is always more fun!

J-Tier · Dec 31, 2016

Guys, it's Jedah. I can feel it in my bones.

no i can't

Harpoon · Dec 31, 2016

Lord Raptor or bust!

BronsonLee · Dec 31, 2016

You know guys if we turn Ryce upside down and shake him around maybe the leaks will fall out of his pockets

BassForever · Dec 31, 2016

Ryce said:
Indeed I am.

I said too much!

But maybe he said this because he made it too obvious and wants to throw us off the trail

DerekOfTheDykes · Dec 31, 2016

Well, I know everyone is looking at Darkstalkers because of the complex transforming animations, but what if it's just a character new to fighting game, where the execution of their design is maybe more complex than it needed to be but to great effect?

For example, as a somewhat unrealistic longshot, William Birkin as the G-Mutant replacing Nemesis, having a very complicated moveset involving body morphing (some liberties were already taken with Nemesis transforming forward and back in his Lv3).

As another example from Injustice, Green Lantern and Sinetro could have been a billion times more complex and impressive in their animations and visual style.

So it isn't necessarily "who from a fighting game is difficult to animate", also look to villains who could be made into a visual spectacle.

Unspeakable Evil · Dec 31, 2016

BronsonLee said:
You know guys if we turn Ryce upside down and shake him around maybe the leaks will fall out of his pockets

Hot leak: Spider-Man, Hulk, and Thor are probably in this game.
Source: Some black dork with a Samurai Jack avatar

BassForever · Dec 31, 2016

Has someone compiled a list of capcoms villains yet?

J-Tier · Dec 31, 2016

BassForever said:
Has someone compiled a list of capcoms villains yet?

Not a thorough one.

I'd start here:

http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Villains

BassForever · Dec 31, 2016

J-Tier said:
Not a thorough one.

I'd start here:

http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Villains

Alright gaf I'm off to bed I expect you to have fine tooth combed this list by sunrise

don't actually do that

DerekOfTheDykes · Dec 31, 2016

J-Tier said:
Not a thorough one.

I'd start here:

http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Villains

Brb scouring the whole list

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