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Trojan X · Jan 10, 2014

Seriously people, STOP complaining about the file size. That's not the issue. You wanted the console game and now you got it and the highest quality of that console version. What do you think MGS4 file size would be like? Be happy that is not a PC download nor available for the PC.

The issues that are more important involves the graphics options to take advantage of other rigs and make the game more beautiful and impressive, fps stabilization, and the always online bug. Those are the main so far unless I am missing something.

zainetor · Jan 10, 2014

Trojan X said:
Seriously people, STOP complaining about the file size. That's not the issue. You wanted the console game and now you got it and the highest quality of that console version. What do you think MGS4 file size would be like? Be happy that is not a PC download nor available for the PC.

i'm sure mgs4 filesize would be 6gb game, 40gb hd fmvs.

KJ869 · Jan 10, 2014

I hope they manage to fix this soon. I was raly concidering it for the -20% but then just decided to wait because I had no idea how good/bad the port would be and how it would run with slightly older hardware like HD5800

giant_frying_pan · Jan 10, 2014

I'm disappointed it isn't 50 GB.

Saty · Jan 10, 2014

Online bug should be fixed now.

http://www.vg247.com/2014/01/10/met...-pc-issues-should-be-fixed-now-says-koji-pro/

teiresias · Jan 10, 2014

So we're calling 180s on sneakily implemented DRM policies "bugs" now? Good to know.

JPKellams · Jan 10, 2014

teiresias said:
So we're calling 180s on sneakily implemented DRM policies "bugs" now? Good to know.

Except it was actually a bug. We hired aliens from Area 51 to fix it though, so there is still a bit of conspiracy theory there for you to latch on to.

JB2448 · Jan 10, 2014

teiresias said:
So we're calling 180s on sneakily implemented DRM policies "bugs" now? Good to know.

Do you know for sure? The fact that it just kind of closes the application with no forewarning or anything seems to indicate the latter more than the former. Also, everyone at Konami seems to be calling it an "issue" and not a "policy" or anything remotely similar.

UnrealEck · Jan 10, 2014

Trojan X said:
Seriously people, STOP complaining about the file size. That's not the issue. You wanted the console game and now you got it and the highest quality of that console version. What do you think MGS4 file size would be like? Be happy that is not a PC download nor available for the PC.

Yeah, keep those disgusting optional games off the PC. The option of buying them is unwelcome!
But yeah, there's no way around pre-rendered cutscenes in a game which was designed to be released on console, a platform which is primarily far and away a physical media platform. That is other than compression I suppose.

I assume pre-rendered cutscenes are a bit easier to do than programming some form of pre-determined (animation etc) scenes in-game.

LiK · Jan 10, 2014

Bug is fixed. Try it out guys.

AcceptableGhost · Jan 10, 2014

Pre-rendered cutscenes are fucking awesome, you can almost always skip them on the very frame they start playing guaranteed. Sometimes devs are iffy on letting you skip in-engine stuff (the worst case scenario being something like Max Payne 3).

antitrop · Jan 10, 2014

Trojan X said:
Seriously people, STOP complaining about the file size. That's not the issue. You wanted the console game and now you got it and the highest quality of that console version. What do you think MGS4 file size would be like? Be happy that is not a PC download nor available for the PC.

I made the PC OT for Mortal Kombat 9 and there were a ton of people complaining about the awful compressed cutscenes, and admonishing NetherRealm for not using the PS3 ones. Devs can't win.

Gbraga · Jan 10, 2014

PlatinumGamesJP said:
Except it was actually a bug. We hired aliens from Area 51 to fix it though, so there is still a bit of conspiracy theory there for you to latch on to.

You're loved and appreciated.

Can't wait to read fanfics with you and ToraShiro having fun together.

Big_Al · Jan 10, 2014

The way I see it when I play on PC I want the absolute best of that version, if that means it's 30GB to download then so be it. I don't want anything skipped out because of people with poor broadband speeds or with crap download limits.

Sendou · Jan 10, 2014

antitrop said:
I made the PC OT for Mortal Kombat 9 and there were a ton of people complaining about the awful compressed cutscenes, and asking why they didn't use the PS3 ones. Devs can't win.

I always wondered why they won't offer an option to choose between a larger version with better quality cutscenes and a smaller version with compressed cutscenes. Is there something stopping devs from doing this?

JaseC · Jan 10, 2014

Sendou said:
I always wondered why they won't offer an option to choose between a larger version with better quality cutscenes and a smaller version with compressed cutscenes. Is there something stopping devs from doing this?

Not really: it just means more micromanagement (and some forethought).

antitrop · Jan 10, 2014

Sendou said:
I always wondered why they won't offer an option to choose between a larger version with better quality cutscenes and a smaller version with compressed cutscenes. Is there something stopping devs from doing this?

Well, considering both Xbone and PS4 now use Bluray, PC gamers better get used to enormous file sizes for cutscenes as a norm.

epmode · Jan 10, 2014

antitrop said:
I made the PC OT for Mortal Kombat 9 and there were a ton of people complaining about the awful compressed cutscenes, and asking why they didn't use the PS3 ones. Devs can't win.

Go for quality, nuts to the other guys. But ideally, in-engine cutscenes pls.

Has our illustrious Platinum representitive said anything about patching the game to support high resolutions? This port is very close to being good, especially for a first-time PC developer!

LiK · Jan 10, 2014

This is the digital future. Maybe we'll have better video compression in the future but if you don't want prerendered cutscenes to look like ass, files are gonna be big.

Big_Al · Jan 10, 2014

epmode said:
Go for quality, nuts to the other guys. But ideally, in-engine cutscenes pls.

Has our illustrious Platinum representitive said anything about patching the game to support high resolutions? This port is very close to being good, especially for a first-time PC developer!

You'd like to think it wouldn't be that hard if Durante did it super quick. Here's hoping they do soon.

Zushin · Jan 10, 2014

antitrop said:
Well, considering both Xbone and PS4 now use Bluray, PC gamers better get used to enormous file sizes for cutscenes as a norm.

Yeah. Which is unfortunate as an Australian haha

Gbraga · Jan 10, 2014

LiK said:
This is the digital future. Maybe we'll have better video compression in the future but if you don't want prerendered cutscenes to look like ass, files are gonna be big.

They do look like ass though, just not as bad as it could be if we didn't get the PS3 version.

It's one thing to get a big ass download to see Square-Enix CGIs without compression, another thing to get 5 times the game size of MGR cutscenes.

But again, I am glad we're getting the best version of the prerendered cutscenes, most publishers wouldn't care enough and would just give us the 360 version instead.

emiranda061288 · Jan 10, 2014

LiK said:
This is the digital future. Maybe we'll have better video compression in the future but if you don't want prerendered cutscenes to look like ass, files are gonna be big.

I'm sure they are using ancient codecs, not even x264... I watched one movie in x265 and my god the quality was jaw dropping, these videos should be mpeg-2 or something if the artifacts are clearly visible, just to not stress the cpu.

LiK · Jan 10, 2014

Gbraga said:
They do look like ass though, just not as bad as it could be if we didn't get the PS3 version.

It's one thing to get a big ass download to see Square-Enix CGIs without compression, another thing to get 5 times the game size of MGR cutscenes.

But again, I am glad we're getting the best version of the prerendered cutscenes, most publishers wouldn't care enough and would just give us the 360 version instead.

emiranda061288 said:
I'm sure they are using ancient codecs, not even x264... I watched one movie in x265 and my god the quality was jaw dropping, these videos should be mpeg-2 or something if the artifacts are clearly visible, just to not stress the cpu.

I do admit it's not crystal clear but it didn't look too terrible either. They do have a lot of long cutscenes too. I'm gonna assume they didn't bother reencoding the raw files with something better. Although JP can correct me if he's reading this.

Tizoc · Jan 10, 2014

Glad to see it was fixed up so fast i kinda suspected konami mit've mad online only but even if it wasnt this is such an odd thing to happen. Now it just needs to be region free so that other regions can know RULES OF NATURE.

Nillansan · Jan 10, 2014

teiresias said:
So we're calling 180s on sneakily implemented DRM policies "bugs" now? Good to know.

Come the fuck on.

antitrop · Jan 10, 2014

Nillansan said:
Come the fuck on.

.

Gamer cynicism has jumped the shark.

Durante · Jan 10, 2014

teiresias said:
So we're calling 180s on sneakily implemented DRM policies "bugs" now? Good to know.

Oh please, no one implements DRM that hard-crashes the game without warning.

Big_Al said:
You'd like to think it wouldn't be that hard if Durante did it super quick. Here's hoping they do soon.

I'd like to note that there are some (relatively small) issues with my quick hack though. It would probably be easier to get to work than e.g. Deadly Premonition though that did quite a few "special" things.

Volcynika · Jan 10, 2014

PlatinumGamesJP said:
Except it was actually a bug. We hired aliens from Area 51 to fix it though, so there is still a bit of conspiracy theory there for you to latch on to.

Oh, so that's why I love all the games you guys do. ALIEN TECHNOLOGY.

feel · Jan 10, 2014

Glad it's confirmed a bug, my connection has been spotty lately and I'm kinda scared to play and have a ctd in a super cool moment, I hope it's fixed fast.

Hasney said:
I have zero problems with the games size, I'd much rather the games take the route of higher quality of assets, cutscenes or not.

Obviously it sucks for some people with caps and the like, so it'd be nice to be optional, but give me the best quality it can handle please.

This. Make it optional maybe but don't keep HQ cutscenes away from me.

Saty · Jan 10, 2014

It's already fixed. Title should be changed and the thread is best be closed.

Spaghetti · Jan 10, 2014

teiresias said:
So we're calling 180s on sneakily implemented DRM policies "bugs" now? Good to know.

legitimately the dumbest post in this thread

Alexlf · Jan 10, 2014

PlatinumGamesJP said:
Except it was actually a bug. We hired aliens from Area 51 to fix it though, so there is still a bit of conspiracy theory there for you to latch on to.

You guys rock, thanks for your hard work!

angular graphics · Jan 10, 2014

Saty said:
It's already fixed. Title should be changed and the thread is best be closed.

+1

Chance Hale · Jan 10, 2014

For the final boss, what the hell am I doing wrong because the

second layer of the thing he throws at you seems impossible to cut. I get the first one fine but the second which is just on the other diagonal side always hits me. I know you can avoid it all together but I was trying to get some extra damage.

hamchan · Jan 10, 2014

ricochetguro said:
For the final boss, what the hell am I doing wrong because the

second layer of the thing he throws at you seems impossible to cut. I get the first one fine but the second which is just on the other diagonal side always hits me. I know you can avoid it all together but I was trying to get some extra damage.

Just not cutting accurately enough? I had no problem doing it. Just finished the PC version on hard like 5 hours ago.

Chance Hale · Jan 10, 2014

hamchan said:
Just not cutting accurately enough? I had no problem doing it. Just finished the PC version on hard like 5 hours ago.

Yeah, not sure why I'm having trouble. Just noticed this is the wrong thread too

Archaix · Jan 10, 2014

PlatinumGamesJP said:
Except it was actually a bug. We hired aliens from Area 51 to fix it though, so there is still a bit of conspiracy theory there for you to latch on to.

I feel like you missed a wonderful opportunity for a nanomachines joke here, but it's too early in my morning for me to figure one out myself.

feel · Jan 10, 2014

Saty said:
It's already fixed. Title should be changed and the thread is best be closed.

Ah! Came here to ask, because I just had my internet go out for a couple of minutes and the game didn't crash to desktop. Awesome.

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