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Pick Your Poison: $70-80 games, Loot Box+DLC, or Worse Graphics/Polish/Smaller Scale
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The Cartographer
Member
''Worse Graphics/Polish/Smaller Scale'' is everything but poison.
I wish people more people would embrace games with these traits but I guess many players won't be enamored with anything other than technicallly/graphically grandiose games.
I wish people more people would embrace games with these traits but I guess many players won't be enamored with anything other than technicallly/graphically grandiose games.
FearlessBelgian
Member
Boycott game at full price.
And boycott trash game with no content like Destiny 2...
And boycott trash game with no content like Destiny 2...
Nocturno999
Member
There's a fuckton of great games with none of that.
You don't have to "pick a poison". Maybe not falling into the AAA hype should be the only one.
You don't have to "pick a poison". Maybe not falling into the AAA hype should be the only one.
Snoopycat
Banned
How about publishers/developers make games that are actually worth $60 first. Most AAA games that have come out this year have been insipid, worthless, uninspiring, rehashed, money grabbing garbage. I wouldn't give Activision, EA or Ubisoft more than £10 for the majority of the lazy shit they pump out.
WTF is this even. "Trash game with no content"? Even if you somehow blatantly ignore all the non-main quests, there's still a pretty cool main quest in the game (especially later missions) and the raid is, while not as good as TTK, still pretty cool.
First preference would be $60 great single player content game, followed by $30-$40 substantive content DLC hopefully reusing assets. Uncharted 4 / lost legacy, Horizon / frozen wilds, witcher 3 and its expansions.
Next would be $20 - $40 games like Ori, the Witness, and Ratchet and Clank.
I'd wish games like Halo and Gears would just reuse the bulk of their assets and game play and drop a nice single player expansion for 30 to 40 and build out their multiplayer modes keeping the player base intact, than drop a whole brand new game.
Also, I despise loot boxes, so would rather they die. They are a boring game mechanic that takes time away from playing. Having to open crates and screw around with scrap, is a chore in Gears 4.
Next would be $20 - $40 games like Ori, the Witness, and Ratchet and Clank.
I'd wish games like Halo and Gears would just reuse the bulk of their assets and game play and drop a nice single player expansion for 30 to 40 and build out their multiplayer modes keeping the player base intact, than drop a whole brand new game.
Also, I despise loot boxes, so would rather they die. They are a boring game mechanic that takes time away from playing. Having to open crates and screw around with scrap, is a chore in Gears 4.
Pretty much all games in Canada have gone up to $80. I've pretty much stopped buying new games at this point.
This year, I will have bought P5, BOTW, MK, and MO at full price.
I used to buy one or more full priced games per month when they were $60 CAD. I've now shifted to buying mostly indie games.
This year, I will have bought P5, BOTW, MK, and MO at full price.
I used to buy one or more full priced games per month when they were $60 CAD. I've now shifted to buying mostly indie games.
Boycott nonsensical posts like this.
Hephaestus
Member
I have no problem with 80 dollar games, and loot boxes+DLC
The only thing with loot boxes is I wish you could loot players that have bought loot boxes for their gear.
The only thing with loot boxes is I wish you could loot players that have bought loot boxes for their gear.
Like the hat?
Banned
Just going to continue what I'm doing, Nintendo and Indies. The occasional year or two old AAA game.
TransTrender
Gold Member
I'll have to double check but the only game I bought in the last 12 months that truly counted as this type of AAA cancer is Final Fantasy XV. The next closest game would be The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild...but even then...the budget for that game is probably below average for a true AAA title.
So based on my preferences the types of games that cater to this type of crap can disappear for all I care since I don't buy them.
So based on my preferences the types of games that cater to this type of crap can disappear for all I care since I don't buy them.
Bobo Dakes
Member
The point is, games are getting a lot more expensive to make and "just charge $60" isn't really working for devs and publishers anymore.
randomscribbles
Neo Member
Smaller scale 100% of the time for me. The side effect of a smaller scale is more freedom to take risks, which leads to more memorable games, even if they aren't all complete successes.
Aztechnology
Member
6 months? Nowadays it's like 2-3.
Shil Pencer
Member
Loot boxes all day
I already pay $79 cad for a game. Depending on our exchange rate a $70-$80 USD game is going to cost me over $100 cad. Not happening. I'll take loot crates any day of the year to not have my games cost $100 base again. Sorry if people don't like them, don't play those games or let's start having some self control about purchasing crates.
Jim Sterling had a point about this. "AAA" games haven't been $60 for a while now. $60 gets you the base game, the lowest tier, if you want the full game with all the content you need to pay $100+. The only difference is that the content is rolled out over time instead of all up front.
I'll take anything other than this.
Give me a price, we make a transaction, I enjoy the experience and you leave me and my wallet alone for the duration of it.
GoneRestorff
Member
3. But I think the main problem is the lack of creativity in the industry. Graphics wouldn't be so important if games were fun or the story captivating. I've had my best year ever with games, but it baffles me how much big budget crap gets released.
Give me a really refined low poly artstyle any day. You dont need something to be photorealistic to look sick! Content over next gen graphics any day for me
Id also honestly choose loot boxes over splitting a playerbase any day of the week. I fucking hated how many games I dropped last gen because I didnt want to buy dlc for five different games just to keep up. Now I CAN buy dlc IF I feel like it.
Some people have tendencies to fall into loot box pits. Im one of them. I was doing that on maplestory before it was cool. Excersize some self control and limit how many games youll pour extra money into. Ill pick up the occasional box or two on something Im playing super regularly, but I also try and limit how many games with that sort of pricing model Im playing.
I pick up any sick small game I want. Less than $30 is generally a nobrainer for me, especially if its a cool unique game from a small studio!
Once we get to $40+ games I try and take a minute to consider my purchase. Do I need it NOW? Is this the sort of game thatll get another $100 of dlc that I can get all at once for $20 a year and a half from now? Will this game force me to buy dlc to keep playing online? Is meaningful content locked behind regular paywalls?
Those games I try to only buy one a year. This year its battlefront 2.
Between indies and retro games I dont feel like I miss out on not getting every single AAA game at launch. I want Injustice 2. Not $100 want, though. If I still want it in a year, itll be there.
Id also honestly choose loot boxes over splitting a playerbase any day of the week. I fucking hated how many games I dropped last gen because I didnt want to buy dlc for five different games just to keep up. Now I CAN buy dlc IF I feel like it.
Some people have tendencies to fall into loot box pits. Im one of them. I was doing that on maplestory before it was cool. Excersize some self control and limit how many games youll pour extra money into. Ill pick up the occasional box or two on something Im playing super regularly, but I also try and limit how many games with that sort of pricing model Im playing.
I pick up any sick small game I want. Less than $30 is generally a nobrainer for me, especially if its a cool unique game from a small studio!
Once we get to $40+ games I try and take a minute to consider my purchase. Do I need it NOW? Is this the sort of game thatll get another $100 of dlc that I can get all at once for $20 a year and a half from now? Will this game force me to buy dlc to keep playing online? Is meaningful content locked behind regular paywalls?
Those games I try to only buy one a year. This year its battlefront 2.
Between indies and retro games I dont feel like I miss out on not getting every single AAA game at launch. I want Injustice 2. Not $100 want, though. If I still want it in a year, itll be there.
TwilightPrincess
Member
Less graphics, less budget, better games.
Kelegacy
XBOX - RECORD ME LOVING DOWN MY WOMAN GOOD
$50 games max, no paid loot boxes, no season passes, microtransactions, etc. Those are my stipulations.
I am old school. With Best Buy GCU I will always pay less but still, the industry can crash under their own greed before i pay nearly $100 for a game. And i grew up in the cart era.
The indies and small devs can inherit it all.
I am old school. With Best Buy GCU I will always pay less but still, the industry can crash under their own greed before i pay nearly $100 for a game. And i grew up in the cart era.
The indies and small devs can inherit it all.
Chie Satonaka91
Neo Member
I'll take option 3. Mind blowing graphics aren't really a hook for me, a lot of my favorite games have a simpler/stylized look.
LastGamer84
Member
How about AAA devs stop chasing 4K, don't make expansive games with MMO quest filler, and make each entry a self-contained story that isn't sequel bait? Oh, and stop chasing the latest trends in bad MP design? Not every game needs MP.
Money saved.
Money saved.
TwilightPrincess
Member
When the games sell less because more people can't afford the sheer number of games most companies will have the same problem. If they could charge more they would probably do it.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Games are already $80-$100 if you want the "full" experience
Tarextherex
Banned
Worse graphics/polish/smaller scale? Devs can't even do shit with all that money, AAA games aren't even fun. When freaking early 3D games with much smaller worlds handle level design better you know something's up. Nowadays they think you can just slap in open worlds, press a for awesome and shoehorned rpg elements to make a game enjoyable
Adam_Roman
Member
I'd much rather pay $50 for a 15-20hr game with less polish than ridiculous prices for games that "have to sell 5+mil in order to not be a flop". It'd let smaller dev teams in large companies experiment a bit more too.
Omnii-chan
Member
This. Do you really think if $80 became standard they wouldn't also try to get some loot box income?
Zippedpinhead
Member
Games were $70-$100 on the SNES and Genesis, going back to that price wont affect anything other than how many I buy at launch...
Yep. Around $90 with tax. And then theres season passes, dlc, etc
Alexander DeLarge
Member
Third option, move AAA development out of North America and especially from the Bay Area/Seattle/NYC/Toronto/Vancouver. $150,000 salaries + benefits is completely unsustainable and it's bloating budgets to the point where it's obscene.
Something has gotta give and it certainly won't be me if they're expecting a $60 purchase along with microtransactions.
Something has gotta give and it certainly won't be me if they're expecting a $60 purchase along with microtransactions.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Yep, I wish FF7 looked like The World of Final Fantasy, or The Tales games, they really screwed themselves with trying to be on the bleeding edge, and now we got FF7 Remake in pieces. It ruined the game for me, I hope it's good but I doubt it will turn out ok. The kids of 2039 will have quite the Remaster Collection to play through hopefully.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
How about I buy Nintendo games and get all PC games when they hit $10 or lower.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Trouble is that if the "base" game justifies the price-tag, the whole argument collapses. In many cases it seems to me not about what some folks are getting for their money, but a perception that they should be entitled to all the extra bells and whistles on principle.
Its a position I don't feel that stands up under scrutiny because, of course, getting more for the same money would be good for any product or service in existence. But that doesn't mean that everything is a rip-off!
It drives me crazy that an add-on that's available at day #1 is somehow assumed to be of less material worth than one released several months on from launch. As if somehow you are paying for the developers time, and if the work was done in tandem with the primary/parent offering there's an absolute case that it should have been folded in. Its nonsensical.
yup. but it's all based on games being $60 in the US, and I do believe that within the next two years, or at the latest when PS5 launches, games will go up another $10.
Vital Tundra
Member
Visuals dont impress me much anymore and I can go for some smaller scale stuff. The AAAmarket is filled with cutting edge, bigger better attitude. If the whole industry diverged from that maybe we wouldnt see so much bullshit.