Chuck Norris
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South Park: The Fractured but Whole - Review Thread
- Thread starter Bits N Pieces
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Almost every South Park POV:
Good lord, yeah SP is really halfway to gassing people. I find these perspectives on the show lack the proper nuance to be taken seriously.
CannonFodder52
Member
what is this
DwightSchruting
Member
I loved stick of truth and I was super excited about this. I even liked the whole skin color reflects your difficulty because as racially charged as that is the message is pretty awesome that the darker u are the harder it is in our society, I loved that! It wasnt offensive it was brutally true.
But Ive since stopped watching a show Ive seen every episode of and loved & I have no interest in the game.
The joke about Kanyes mom caught me off guard, its a show that pushes the boundaries and I dont always agree with them but I appreciate they dont hold their tongues.
But that Kanyes mom thing was absolutely tasteless and unacceptable. You should be able to push the envelope but theres always a limit and disrespecting a guys dead mom who nobody really knew too well was just terrible.
Really sucks because the show stands next to the simpsons for me. Oh well:/
But Ive since stopped watching a show Ive seen every episode of and loved & I have no interest in the game.
The joke about Kanyes mom caught me off guard, its a show that pushes the boundaries and I dont always agree with them but I appreciate they dont hold their tongues.
But that Kanyes mom thing was absolutely tasteless and unacceptable. You should be able to push the envelope but theres always a limit and disrespecting a guys dead mom who nobody really knew too well was just terrible.
Really sucks because the show stands next to the simpsons for me. Oh well:/
Devilinthiscity
Member
I have been getting that vibe ever since they showed it at E3 2016. I really liked the Stick of Truth, but i'm torn because of all of the stuff i've seen of it so far wasn't really funny to me.
Ethics in games journalism.
Saoshyant
Member
How do you feel about constant, pointless fetch quests? Because there are a ton of those.
Child of Light was developed by Ubisoft Montreal, while this game was made by another studio, Ubisoft San Franciso. Different developers.
The Ars Technica review compares this game constantly with its predecessor, and the older one wins on most counts.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Do you need to be a regular South Park watcher to enjoy this game? A lot of the videos I've seen online seem to reference characters and events that I'm not familiar with.
Nope. Do you find whatever South Park you've watched kinda funny? Do you like RPGs? Do you get easily offended?
If it's Yes, Yes, No then chances are high you might like this game. Don't NEED to know all the characters.
Keyboard vomit.
Good bc I haven't watched SP in years.
Not only that but that comic and others similar to it are a very poor attempt at a moderate argument. Unless there is some sarcasm there I am missing.
Tbh that might just make the game better. You'll encounter some new characters that'll probably feel fresh and funny to you and also see how some characters have developed. Randy in particular went from being a minor character to basically being the main character of the show. He's hilarious.
AlexFlame116
Member
I'm not buying this game but have been looking at the reviews and I'm confused. Is 80 a bad score now? Is 90 the absolute lowest a game can go before it's deemed as a failure by some people? Why? Why can't a game get an 80 and still be a darn good game?
OriginalJonty
Member
Just finished and will be writing my review up tomorrow. The combat system is great, the story is decent, the humour is South Park to a tee. It did feel like the story could have ended at multiple points though.
Think I must have spent around 17 hours total on it.
Think I must have spent around 17 hours total on it.
Terrorblot
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It's apparently easier to pretend they don'pt understand hyperbole while defending a game/show that derives all of it's humor from it.
How much side content did you do out of curiosity? That's quite a bit shorter than I would've expected.
SanguineShark
Member
Nevermind.
OriginalJonty
Member
Quite a lot though many are fetch quests and you'll come across a lot of collectibles pretty easily. The thing is now that I've finished it only a couple of side quests actually stand out while the rest weren't that memorable.
OriginalJonty
Member
Doubtful.
It's a side quest where you decide your characters religion. You have to help mom fish get to heaven on the unicorn.
AlexFlame116
Member
Ooh boy that's an oddity.
SanguineShark
Member
Disappointing but expected, I suppose.
(Sam from Ars here)
Yeah, I went into this really wanting to love it. I'm a longtime South Park fan, and I've reviewed a bunch of South Park games over the years. I don't envy anybody who is tasked with making a game that's both fun to play and funny in a South Park way. That's a tall order. But I looked at this game from multiple angles (whether you're a series fan or not, and whether you want a "hard" or "complex" South Park game or not), and I thought this was a disappointment for every metric. It's simply more fun to watch than to play, and I broke down why I feel that way.
WhiskeyKnight
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Patrick Klepek and the rest of the Waypoint crew were super offended by the difficulty slider thing.
Gotta say if that joke offends you, well, then this game just isn't for you.
HerroRygar
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What was their reasoning? I thought it was abrasive, but clever given Cartman's voiceover stating, "this doesn't affect combat, just every other aspect of your life".
Audioboxer
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https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/9/16435592/south-park-race-difficulty
Edit: I thought you were asking about Polygon. I'm not sure what Waypoint said specifically, unless they have an article like the above.
serenewarfare
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Waypoint basically echoed the same sentiment that video games are escapism and when your escapism says "hey if you want to be properly represented here you are going to have a harder time", it kind of defeats the purpose of escapism.
FrenchMovieTheme
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You thought SoT gameplay was fun? It was serviceable as a poor man's paper Mario but took a back seat to story/humor. This game (based on vids, I haven't played) looks to have better gameplay than SoT but I guess I will find out tomorrow!
ElephantShell
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Since the game relies so much on comedy and comedy is so subjective I was expecting it to be more polarizing but the reviews are actually generally higher than I thought.
I thought SoT was designed with comedy as a priority. The snappy, admittedly simple gameplay mostly just backed the writing up, but there were a lot of great "it's funny cuz you're PLAYING it" moments. I called that out in 2014 for Ars, as well. My review of FBW describes Ubi's attempts to diversify the combat this time, and why I thought they fell flat.
I think it's because gamer culture and South Park culture have more critical cross over than even television reviews. That's why people are singling out Polygon and Waypoint, because they're one of the few reviews that actually critiquing the humor. People saying that they're just around to ruffle feathers though. No, their journal has an identity and they're sticking true to their voice. I honestly would've been surprised if a Polygon writer did NOT talk about the political incorrectness of many a South Park joke, and how it's libertarian views seem to deem everyone equally punchable.
Lol one more for the ignore list.
GAF members outing themselves left and right these days. Phew.
OriginalJonty
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Steve McQueen
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I have to say ( only 2 hours in ) that the Stick of Truth made more of an impression. Probably feels like that because it's not new anymore, like SoT was. Hope the game picks up, game starts pretty slow.
Still boggles my mind that Obsidian didn't produce this. They did an excellent job on SoT.
Lokimaru
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This is a game where the Jew kid's Superhero name is the Human Kite. Change the T to a K and wow dude really? These guys pull no punches and hit everyone Black, White, Jewish, Christian, Gay, Straight it doesn't matter. The Joke wasn't about Kanye's Mom anyway, it was about the Game Kanye tried to make. Technically they actually completed the game for him which was actually kind of nice IMO. It's all how you chose to look at it really.
Terrorblot
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Depict a dude's dead mother as a black faced big lipped fish, "it's all how you chose to look at it really". How you have chosen to look at it speaks volumes Loki, tbqh. Also I don't speak for others but I also find the Jew stuff tired, old, and offensive ¯_(ツ
_/¯ . I've always found the "their making fun of everyone though!" argument juvenile and beyond the point.
Trojita
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I'll chime in to say that I don't see the point in having someone review something they dislike, have disinterest, or hate.
It doesn't make any sense to have someone that only likes sports games reviewing a turn based RPG.
It doesn't make sense for a non-sports player (and non-nfl watcher) to review Madden for a major publication.
You wouldn't have someone that vehemently hates everything anime, disregarding everything from the gameplay to the plot because of how much they hate the anime artstyle, reviewing a game with anime art.
You wouldn't have a crazy evangelical review Xenogears.
It doesn't make any sense to have someone that only likes sports games reviewing a turn based RPG.
It doesn't make sense for a non-sports player (and non-nfl watcher) to review Madden for a major publication.
You wouldn't have someone that vehemently hates everything anime, disregarding everything from the gameplay to the plot because of how much they hate the anime artstyle, reviewing a game with anime art.
You wouldn't have a crazy evangelical review Xenogears.
RumbleHumble
Banned
I wasn't aware Klepek or Kollar hated South Park. Klepek stated repeatedly that he grew up with South Park and liked Stick of Truth. Kollar's review never said anything about South Park not being his thing. You can dislike this game, but still think South Park ain't that bad.
Trojita
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It will be interesting reading Klepek's write up since he stated he liked the first game.
ScientificPizza
Banned
lmao what
Lokimaru
Member
Depict a dude's dead mother as a black faced big lipped fish, "it's all how you chose to look at it really". How you have chosen to look at it speaks volumes Loki, tbqh. Also I don't speak for others but I also find the Jew stuff tired, old, and offensive ¯_(ツ
But making fun of Everyone is the only way you can make fun of Anyone. I'm Black so saw no problem with how the the fish was portrayed, how else would you do it? Was it crass sure but crass is kind of their shtick. Did you know Toolshed (Stan's alter ego) was slang for Vagina?
ScientificPizza
Banned
nope
Lokimaru
Member
Well fuck all comedy I guess.
grosvenor_92
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I haven't watched an episode of the new season yet these scores are making me happy. Ubisoft deciding to develop it in house didn't screw it up which was my concern