Fourth Storm
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Where are you getting that 40MB number from? I've never heard it, which is surprising considering how much time I spend reading this thread. haha
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Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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Where are you getting that 40MB number from? I've never heard it, which is surprising considering how much time I spend reading this thread. haha
bgassassin
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I agree. I'm sticking with 1.5GB till the final shows otherwise.
StreetsAhead
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If it's 128MB vs 91MB then it's technically 37MB the 3DS has over the Wii.
And curse you IdeaMan! (But seriously, most of the tech stuff, while interesting, means nothing to me).
-Pyromaniac-
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Keep in mind ideaman was implying that it COULD ship with 2gb, which makes 1.5 seem like a definite, at the least. Which is still amazing compared to this gen.
AceBandage
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I must sleep now, have fun fellow gafers
Hint-Fatality: the amount of ram that i've heard has been guessed
8GB confirmed!
How will we even know? Nintendo doesn't usually release their specs, right?
Oh I'm talking about 3DS RAM vs. Wii RAM. Wii has something like 88MB total, right? (64GDDR3, 24MB 1T-SRAM) I just did 128MB-88MB.
Edit: You guys are playing so cautiously with the 1.5GB and not getting jumpy for the possibility of 2GB. That said, I'm with you guys. XD
I mean, it's not impossible but it's not certain either. 1.5 GB for the retail unit is far more reasonable from what has been suggested (of course, a late bump is still possible but shouldn't be expected).
AceBandage
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Once the unit is released, we'll be able to find out.
Ha!
While such a thing won't happen in a million years, your post prompted me to imagine the dramatic turnaround in media coverage tone/attitude if Nintendo were to have the most powerful console for a generation. It'd be hysterical.
Quadrangulum
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1.5 or 2 would be incredible. Nintendo's developers would have been given a huge leap, both over the Wii and the PS3/360, to contend with in either case.
Who would tear apart a Console though. That's Just horrible ={
bgassassin
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Someone will either leak them, or someone will tear down the console.
You're right that it's not impossible. But I'd have to see for myself that it would have 2GB.
Yeah, sorry, I meant two GameCube games or two Wii games since Wii games are practically the same, but I guess that's irrelevant considering there's only one disc drive for Wii games lol. I suppose a GameCube game and a Wii game could work though. Anyway, I was just reaffirming your point by adding some extra details as to why there aren't necessarily technical limitations preventing it. Though as I mentioned, 3 cores might not be enough if 2 are needed for each game, but this depends on how BC is actually handled. I agree that it probably won't be pursued even if possible.
Grain(s) of salt definitely a must. I don't even remember who originally brought it up.Wait, seriously?
That's exceptionally good news imo. The closer we get to good free MSAA @ 1080p, the better. Of course, that's if this is all true.
Gianni Merryman
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It's nice to have some positive rumours in this thread for a change!
Only thing, I just try and not getting carried away neither from positive nor negative rumours, so I'll take only as a speculation for the sake of it, not to be disappointed whether WiiU should turn out to be worse than we expect it.
Only thing, I just try and not getting carried away neither from positive nor negative rumours, so I'll take only as a speculation for the sake of it, not to be disappointed whether WiiU should turn out to be worse than we expect it.
I'm working on my surprised face in front of a mirror to perfect it when E3 hits and we finally see some Nintendo games running on this thing, lol
StreetsAhead
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Did IdeaMan ever get confirmed by a mod?
This. If Nintendo puts the right amount of work in, seeing their franchises in HD with modern hardware light-years ahead of the Wii's tech will be impressive.
There is a reason the Dolphin thread is one of the most viewed on neoGAF.
This. If Nintendo puts the right amount of work in, seeing their franchises in HD with modern hardware light-years ahead of the Wii's tech will be impressive.
There is a reason the Dolphin thread is one of the most viewed on neoGAF.
IceDoesntHelp
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Oh, geez. I didn't read his example games carefully enough. I assumed the original poster was asking about running two full-blown, pedal-to-the-metal Wii U games at the same time. DUH. Sorry about that, original poster.
Fourth Storm
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Nvm, we're talking completely different systems. This thread is too much to keep up w/ sometimes.
THE:MILKMAN
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Seems pretty obvious that IdeaMan is telling us that 2GB is the current target.
Before his edit, he mentioned the 4/5 times 360 "thing". And 2GB would be 4X 360's ram...
Exciting times if it plays out.
Before his edit, he mentioned the 4/5 times 360 "thing". And 2GB would be 4X 360's ram...
Exciting times if it plays out.
I don't think so. I'm not unsustainably power-hungry, but my heart won't be broken if he's shown to be accurate.
Sis Focaccia
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Wii only has 88 mb! 2000 mb could do some outta sight dancin'
Imagine how amazing the Wii U-ware games that only render the subscreen will be. They'll have some real power to play with.
Imagine how amazing the Wii U-ware games that only render the subscreen will be. They'll have some real power to play with.
StreetsAhead
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Tell me about it. I can't imagine what it's going to be like come e3/actual news.
If so, he wouldn't be alive to post anymore, he would have imploded.
Me too (see my other reply below)
Hmm so it's 1, 1.5, 2, 3 or 8.I must sleep now, have fun fellow gafers
Hint-Fatality: the amount of ram that i've heard has been guessed
Well, based on ...
I'm thinking over 1.5. If you're going to guess a bit more than 1GB, would you guess 1.25? 1.3? I'd think the natural guess would be 1.5, and if it's more than that, I would suggest 2. Either way, 1.5 or 2 is more than what I was assuming was happening (1)
Keep shouting it dude, it will happen eventually!!
He's not claiming to be a developer.
Confirmed as what? An ex-game journalist? How is he going to prove that?
StreetsAhead
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I know, I know and fair point. I was just wondering if he'd confirmed he was what he said he was, which might lend more credence to what he's saying (
before I get excited
bgassassin
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Considering he said he's a former journalist, there's not much to confirm. It'd be like having someone like wsippel, shockingalberto or me being confirmed. I say just listen to what he provides and put it to the test compared to what we know.
Beaten twice.
Oh it's like I said, I need to see it end up with 2GB to believe it will be that. I mean if that's what he's indicating, even he didn't say it was guaranteed.
Shin Johnpv
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3GB is not going to happen. For any of them. Ram densities just aren't there for it.
I must sleep now, have fun fellow gafers
Hint-Fatality: the amount of ram that i've heard has been guessed
Oh man, you're causing blue balls!!!!
If it's indeed 2GB I'm going to be the happiest man in the world
and I will get any indication of weakness from Nintendo out of my mind
but I would be totally fine if it's only 1.5
He actually hasn't said much, but what he said seems to match quite well what other sources said. Also...
Pretty much this.
I don't get how some of you people from the industry can talk about the devkits or leave hints of it. Isn't that breaking NDA? I'm just a QA Tester and I can't talk about the games I work on, or any other thing I know from inside.
Heck, I thought I'd be in trouble when I first mentioned PSN was back up for devs back at the hack.
Heck, I thought I'd be in trouble when I first mentioned PSN was back up for devs back at the hack.
Shin Johnpv
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I'm sticking with my 1.5GB prediction, if it ends up being 2GB, I'll be happily surprised.
2GB for software, + 1GB for system OS?
Getting both games in some HD remix with maybe some extra content would be great.
Hero of Legend
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2GB is my guess as well.
What do you think the Wii would've been capable of had it had say 128MB of RAM as opposed to 88MB for instance?
Edit: PS3 and 360 were at 512MB right? 2GB sure is a huge jump IMO, RAM is very important for squeezing out the power of the system right? Or to use what it has more efficiently withgout framerates dipping and what not?
What do you think the Wii would've been capable of had it had say 128MB of RAM as opposed to 88MB for instance?
Edit: PS3 and 360 were at 512MB right? 2GB sure is a huge jump IMO, RAM is very important for squeezing out the power of the system right? Or to use what it has more efficiently withgout framerates dipping and what not?
AceBandage
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They aren't a part of any company, and they can report on anything that they "overhear" without consequences.
A GIG for OS would be completely pointless.
Fourth Storm
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The way I look at it, once you eliminate the option (hope) of GDDR5, 1.5 GB seems less likely than 2 even. GDDR5 would be a difference of 6 and 8 chips as opposed to what, at least half that for GDDR3? And nothing we've seen has suggested they're using GDDR5 except for the stock 256 bit bus on the RV770LE, which can be explained if they were adding extra RAM to it for debug purposes, as we know they were.
So we get nice fat caches on either end buffering a large but relatively slow pool of GDDR3? Seems like a Nintendo choice. And it will probably end up holding up pretty well after careful optimization. The 32mb of eDRAM and 3 MB L2 caches from IBM could really end up being the defining features of the hardware.
So we get nice fat caches on either end buffering a large but relatively slow pool of GDDR3? Seems like a Nintendo choice. And it will probably end up holding up pretty well after careful optimization. The 32mb of eDRAM and 3 MB L2 caches from IBM could really end up being the defining features of the hardware.
That's too bad because I could give you quite a lot of insider info on it.
Aren't some of them devs?
AceBandage
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