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mikezilla2
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(10-26-2016, 10:12 PM)
are we still locked behind 2tb drives ? ie nothing bigger ?
Hasney
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(10-26-2016, 10:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by mikezilla2

are we still locked behind 2tb drives ? ie nothing bigger ?

No, that's not been the case on the PS4 regular even.
NewDust
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(10-26-2016, 10:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by mikezilla2

are we still locked behind 2tb drives ? ie nothing bigger ?

Unless you want to run cables and mount your hdd outside the PS4, spend the cash on an expensive ssd, or, for the original PS4, use a Nyko databank (which slows down performance) than yes, we are still locked to 2tb drives.

Unless PS4Pro somehow manages to have a 15mm drivebay.
SolidSnakeUS
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(10-26-2016, 10:30 PM)
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Also, reading around, it's kind of funny how people hate on this drive so much. Saying that SSHDs are pointless with SSDs being more affordable. But I find a drive like the FireCuda can be a very good drive for consoles and some weaker laptops. I agree it can't beat SSDs in speed and longevity, but this is still pretty good for the space and the speed given, even if it's only 5400 RPM. Also, 7200 RPM 2TB laptop drives are stupid expensive.
Neuromancer
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(10-26-2016, 11:09 PM)
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Is the Firecuda available anywhere else right now?
Jira
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(10-26-2016, 11:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Harmondale

So what Does this exactly mean? Please give me some example of reduced loading times.

For example, getting in and out from houses kills it for me in Skyrim due to the loading Times - would such loading Times be reduced with this kind of hd?

Here's a comparison between an HDD and SSD for vanilla skyrim on PC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcfa_pI0jSU

Now mind you the CPU does matter even still so this may not mean you would see those kind of load times on a Pro.
everthustodeadbeats
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(10-26-2016, 11:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by NewDust

Unless you want to run cables and mount your hdd outside the PS4, use a Nyko databank (which slows down performance), or spend the cash on an expensive ssd, than yes, we are still locked to 2tb drives.

Unless PS4Pro somehow manages to have a 15mm drivebay.

I've the Nyko needs to make a different databank as the shape of the two consoles are different and so is the location of the harddrive.
Ozorov
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(10-26-2016, 11:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Harmondale

So what Does this exactly mean? Please give me some example of reduced loading times.

For example, getting in and out from houses kills it for me in Skyrim due to the loading Times - would such loading Times be reduced with this kind of hd?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...s4-with-an-ssd
JP
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(10-26-2016, 11:18 PM)
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Just ordered the 2TB FireCuda from Amazon.co.uk, hopefully it'll get here by the 10th.
BossDarkseid
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(10-26-2016, 11:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by JP

Just ordered the 2TB FireCuda from Amazon.co.uk, hopefully it'll get here by the 10th.

This one?

i'm keeping an eye on it. i don't find myself needing more than 1TB. I've only once got close to the 500GB on my launch PS4 but 2TB is nice, but a 1TB for 75, like the Seaget "PS4 SSHD" is pretty decent for price.
RoboPlato
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(10-26-2016, 11:44 PM)
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My Firecuda came today. Wasn't expecting it so fast. Only two weeks to wait to see what it can do.
Kyoufu
(10-27-2016, 12:02 AM)
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So how does the Firecuda compare against other SSHDs with 8GB NAND?
JP
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(10-27-2016, 12:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by BossDarkseid

This one?

i'm keeping an eye on it. i don't find myself needing more than 1TB. I've only once got close to the 500GB on my launch PS4 but 2TB is nice, but a 1TB for 75, like the Seaget "PS4 SSHD" is pretty decent for price.

That's the one, I'm disappointed that it isn't a 7200rpm drive but it does seem to be the best drive available for the Pro without going fully SSD, which I don't want to do. I currently have a 2TB hdd in our PS4 and although I'd be OK dropping to a 1TB, I'd only really do that for 1TB SSD at a lower price than you can get them for.

There's no point getting more than you need to get and if you think that 1TB suits you better and you don't think an upgrade will be needed a later date, go for it.
StrongBlackVine
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(10-27-2016, 12:14 AM)

Originally Posted by NewDust

Unless you want to run cables and mount your hdd outside the PS4, use a Nyko databank (which slows down performance), or spend the cash on an expensive ssd, than yes, we are still locked to 2tb drives.

Unless PS4Pro somehow manages to have a 15mm drivebay.

You can buy a 4TB SSD that will fit perfectly;
icespide
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(10-27-2016, 12:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by StrongBlackVine

You can buy a 4TB SSD that will fit perfectly;

I'm afraid to ask how much would that cost?
Ozorov
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(10-27-2016, 12:30 AM)
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A lot

Originally Posted by icespide

I'm afraid to ask how much would that cost?

NewDust
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(10-27-2016, 01:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by StrongBlackVine

You can buy a 4TB SSD that will fit perfectly;

Perhaps try reading again?

Originally Posted by everthustodeadbeats

I've the Nyko needs to make a different databank as the shape of the two consoles are different and so is the location of the harddrive.

Great point. It would still apply to original form factor, but not on Pro or Slim.
ClearData
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(10-27-2016, 01:18 AM)
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So I nabbed a 1 TB Samsung 850 Evo of Newegg via eBay for $269. I didn't think that was a bad price for the undisputed king of Sata III SSDs.
Neuromancer
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(10-27-2016, 04:00 AM)
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Before I buy it, this is the Firecuda everyone's talking about right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...10&ignorebbr=1
SolidSnakeUS
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(10-27-2016, 04:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer

Before I buy it, this is the Firecuda everyone's talking about right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...10&ignorebbr=1

Yes it is. Got mine today.
mulac
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(10-27-2016, 04:08 AM)
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Why is everyone getting SSHD when surely something like a 1TB Samsung Evo SSD would be far and away better?
Kyoufu
(10-27-2016, 04:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by mulac

Why is everyone getting SSHD when surely something like a 1TB Samsung Evo SSD would be far and away better?

Money and storage space.
mulac
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(10-27-2016, 04:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

Money and storage space.

Yup, knew the answer as soon as I hit submit :)

I'm going to jump into 1TB SSD land - have a spare Samsung Evo sitting in my PC at the moment I'm not using so should be a good fit.
MiketheBSG
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(10-27-2016, 04:33 AM)
Here's a review of the FireCuda. Seems pretty impressive.

FireCuda review
Neuromancer
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(10-27-2016, 06:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

Yes it is. Got mine today.

Cool thanks. I just ordered mine. I wonder if I will be able to notice the difference between my current 2TB drive and this one.
StrongBlackVine
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(10-27-2016, 06:40 AM)

Originally Posted by MiketheBSG

Here's a review of the FireCuda. Seems pretty impressive.

FireCuda review

That was not nearly as thorough as I had hoped. Won't matter until someone tests on PS4 Pro though.
Cyriades
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(10-27-2016, 06:40 AM)

Originally Posted by MiketheBSG

Here's a review of the FireCuda. Seems pretty impressive.

FireCuda review

Looks like the 3.5" drive
DJ Lushious
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(10-27-2016, 06:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

So how does the Firecuda compare against other SSHDs with 8GB NAND?

Originally Posted by MiketheBSG

Here's a review of the FireCuda. Seems pretty impressive.

FireCuda review

Sweet! I can't wait to dive into this review.

EDIT - This "review" leaves a lot to be desired. It's more an ad than a true review and it focuses solely on the 3.5" drive.

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

Yes it is. Got mine today.

Ditto. It is, however, just sitting here on my computer desk in its anti-static bag, taunting me until November 10.
Sniffynose
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(10-27-2016, 08:19 AM)
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I grabbed a 500gb Samsung 850 evo, my original had a wd black 7200rpm drive and that helped huge but this time I'm bringing out the big guns lol
klee123
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(10-27-2016, 08:25 AM)
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Grabbed a 1TB 850 evo for this.

Can't wait
Bad_Boy
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(10-27-2016, 10:00 AM)
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About to order that 2TB firecuda 2.5" from newegg.

13 days till ps4 pro!
nycgamer4ever
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(10-27-2016, 03:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

OK thanks. I wish I had grabbed it on Newegg last night; it's sold out now.


It's back in stock on newegg. just ordered me one.
Ozorov
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(10-27-2016, 03:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by klee123

Grabbed a 1TB 850 evo for this.

Can't wait

Will you test with the PS4 first?
Commanche Raisin Toast
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(10-27-2016, 03:58 PM)
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Firecuda sold out again on Newegg and I can't use PayPal credit on the other sites that have it in stock.

Just went with the Barracuda instead. I'm okay with that.

Does the cache size on HDD's really matter? Is that something that only PC's can benefit from, or is it a passive thing? I don't know how it works.
nycgamer4ever
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(10-27-2016, 04:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Commanche Raisin Toast

Firecuda sold out again on Newegg and I can't use PayPal credit on the other sites that have it in stock.

Just went with the Barracuda instead. I'm okay with that.

Does the cache size on HDD's really matter? Is that something that only PC's can benefit from, or is it a passive thing? I don't know how it works.

I think the drive adapts to how you use it. If you use a certain file more often it will keep that in the Flash so you have quicker access to it. It's 8gb so it can load a significant amount. I'm pretty sure there is a speed difference but how much we won't know until someone test it.
Dahaka
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(10-27-2016, 04:35 PM)
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nvm
nycgamer4ever
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(10-27-2016, 04:37 PM)

Originally Posted by Dahaka

nvm

ST2000DX002 is the 3.5 inch version. It won't work with the PS4 or Ps4 Pro.

Quick edit lol.
Proteus
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(10-27-2016, 04:37 PM)
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My Firecuda is out for delivery today. Guess they missed a scan somewhere in the process. Looking forward to just staring at it while I wait for my PS4 Pro.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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(10-27-2016, 04:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by nycgamer4ever

I think the drive adapts to how you use it. If you use a certain file more often it will keep that in the Flash so you have quicker access to it. It's 8gb so it can load a significant amount. I'm pretty sure there is a speed difference but how much we won't know until someone test it.

Thanks! I remember when 32mb was impressive back in the day. The one I ordered is 128mb.
nycgamer4ever
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(10-27-2016, 04:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Commanche Raisin Toast

Thanks! I remember when 32mb was impressive back in the day. The one I ordered is 128mb.

32mb? Man I remember back to when 8mb was good. LMAO I'm old.
Dahaka
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(10-27-2016, 04:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by nycgamer4ever

ST2000DX002 is the 3.5 inch version. It won't work with the PS4 or Ps4 Pro.

Quick edit lol.

yeah, confused myself for NOTHING with all those open tabs. Thanks anyway.

Ordered one for the Pro.
zephry
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(10-27-2016, 04:47 PM)
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My 500GB SSD is ready!! :) I am willing to sacrifice disk space for a huge potential speed boost.
nycgamer4ever
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(10-27-2016, 04:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Dahaka

yeah, confused myself for NOTHING with all those open tabs. Thanks anyway.

Ordered one for the Pro.

I do it all the time!
Neuromancer
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(10-27-2016, 04:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by nycgamer4ever

It's back in stock on newegg. just ordered me one.

Thanks, it went back up last night. Looking forward to 11/10 and installing this bad boy!
Ozorov
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(10-27-2016, 04:51 PM)
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So what do I need and do to transfer my stuff to a new SSD?
JohnnyFootball
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(10-27-2016, 04:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by MiketheBSG

Here's a review of the FireCuda. Seems pretty impressive.

FireCuda review

Thats a 3.5 drive dude.

Not going into a PS4 Pro
Crazymoogle
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(10-27-2016, 04:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by JohnnyFootball

Thats a 3.5 drive dude.

Not going into a PS4 Pro

Yep. And it's a pretty laughable impressions too, guy seemed just happy to have one.

I'm *hoping* the Firecuda 2.5" 2TB is a good option for PS4 owners, but dropping down to 8GB NAND is worrisome enough to want to wait on benchmarks. At 32GB you could be safe to assume several games + OS files would stay in the NAND cache, whereas here it could be emptying the fridge (in theory) with each game you play, and probably more often within a game if it's using most of a Blu Ray disc. For the ~$150 canadian its just a pretty significant premium until we know more.
MissCauthon
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(10-27-2016, 05:00 PM)
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I know it supports sata3 but willssd's really take advantage on speed with it? Or is this all just speculation.
zephry
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(10-27-2016, 05:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer

Thanks, it went back up last night. Looking forward to 11/10 and installing this bad boy!

Ooooh the new 2tb SSHD are in stock!!! This is a great price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822179110
zephry
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(10-27-2016, 05:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Crazymoogle

Yep. And it's a pretty laughable impressions too, guy seemed just happy to have one.

I'm *hoping* the Firecuda 2.5" 2TB is a good option for PS4 owners, but dropping down to 8GB NAND is worrisome enough to want to wait on benchmarks. At 32GB you could be safe to assume several games + OS files would stay in the NAND cache, whereas here it could be emptying the fridge (in theory) with each game you play, and probably more often within a game if it's using most of a Blu Ray disc. For the ~$150 canadian its just a pretty significant premium until we know more.

I had the 1TB SSHD and it was faster than the original HD.

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