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Kyoufu
(10-13-2016, 04:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

For the Firecuda 2.5" 2TB, any idea when it's supposed to be released and at what price around?

No idea about release date but supposedly $120. It will probably be available in the next month or two.
Kaako
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(10-13-2016, 04:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Grampa Simpson

No u.2 or m.2 NVMe?

LOL, I freaking wish mang. Games won't fully support/take advantage of those for a good while me thinks sadly.
Fisty
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(10-13-2016, 05:01 PM)
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Sweet baby Jesus $400 redeemed. My Pro EVO is going to destroy all the load times muahahahhaha
farisr
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(10-13-2016, 05:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

Link? I didn't know they were on sale already.

If it hasn't released at all yet, perhaps "backorder" is their way of saying preorder

http://www.ncix.com/detail/seagate-f...-f4-136235.htm
Shizza
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(10-13-2016, 05:06 PM)
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This is fantastic news!
InfiniteUnrest
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(10-13-2016, 05:06 PM)
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As much as I like having a larger HDD and not having to swap games on a whim when I decide to play something that's not installed and I have no room for, I guess I will install one of my 1TB SSDs left over from my previous PC build (replaced with an m.2 in my new build).

A 2TB would be nice, but they are far too expensive still.
JohnnyFootball
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(10-13-2016, 05:07 PM)
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All of the sudden the PS4 Pro has an "over the edge" feature I was looking for.
Koobion
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(10-13-2016, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by family_guy

With all the writes happening due to the record function, is an SSD really a good idea?

Does the auto record function constantly write to the drive, and not just sit in memory dedicated to the OS?
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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(10-13-2016, 05:13 PM)
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/31302...ard-drive.html

This article mentions a 2TB 7mm Barracuda for $55 dollars. Not as fast as the Firecuda but a good cheap option for those looking for 2TB on the cheap.
Sanke__
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(10-13-2016, 05:18 PM)
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FUCK YES

Awesome news

Time to look for a good SSD
PadPoet
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(10-13-2016, 05:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by family_guy

With all the writes happening due to the record function, is an SSD really a good idea?

Even if you use your PS4 Pro on a daily basis and record tons of footage the wear of the SSD will take at least a decade for you to notice any significant loss of speed.

The wear level of SSDs is greatly exaggerated. I still have SSDs from 2009 tha work just fine.
Kleegamefan
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(10-13-2016, 05:19 PM)
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That $120 2TB Firecuda Hybrid SSHDD is mine muahahahaha
Iadien
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(10-13-2016, 05:23 PM)

Originally Posted by family_guy

With all the writes happening due to the record function, is an SSD really a good idea?

SSDs will last a long time, even with heavy usage. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8747/s...0-evo-review/4
gbland
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(10-13-2016, 05:33 PM)
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ohhhhh shit. I might need to get a ps4 pro now...
family_guy
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(10-13-2016, 05:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Koobion

Does the auto record function constantly write to the drive, and not just sit in memory dedicated to the OS?

Don't think they have enough RAM to have a 720p (and soon to be 1080p) clip sit in memory. Anyway, I would need a 2TB SSD, and not sure I would want to spend that kind of money. I could buy an Xbox One S for around that price.
Shifty1897
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(10-13-2016, 05:44 PM)
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UGHHHH now I have to sell my Ps4 and get a Pro. They finally sold me on it.
FZW
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(10-13-2016, 05:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by ethomaz

You will be limited by money because SATA3 SSD can go over 4TB.
The boost you will get in install, loadtimes, etc will be a gamer changer with SSD + SATA3.

Edit - Fixed for accuracy.

Thats a pretty huge obstacle to overcome, think ill pass. Like a previous poster said wake me up when Sony comes with a more practical storage solution.
chandoog
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(10-13-2016, 05:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kilau

From the folks that are hacking the PS4

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...the-linux-demo

Man .. this is concerning. Why would you even have a SATA pipeline if you're gonna route the data through USB.. doesn't make sense.
Lightning Count
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(10-13-2016, 05:48 PM)
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Anyone want to buy a 2014 PS4 in the UK? Just kidding I will keep it as a backup.

I was on the fence about PS4 Pro but not anymore after reading this.
cakely
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(10-13-2016, 05:49 PM)
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Wow, great news!

I've got a 1TB SSD drive in my current PS4 and I'm ready to go.
c0de
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(10-13-2016, 05:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sword Of Doom

Xb1 USB load times are faster right?




Why are people saying this without waiting for some data? Of course SSD's will finally get utilized, but HDD and SSHD won't see a difference?

Load times are abysmal right now with SATA 2 even for HDDs

SATA 2 offers more bandwidth than these drives support.
amdb00mer
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(10-13-2016, 05:54 PM)
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This is good news. It will definitely help boost SSD drive performance and allow games to load faster. Installs will still be about the same for disc to HDD as i'm sure they are using the same blu-ray drive that is currently in the PS4. Even with SATA3 support the blu-ray drive can only read so fast. Digital downloads may see a small decrease in install time.
oni-link
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(10-13-2016, 05:57 PM)
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Excuse my ignorance, but even with this, the most you can put into a PS4 is still 2TB, right?
StrongBlackVine
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(10-13-2016, 06:01 PM)

Originally Posted by oni-link

Excuse my ignorance, but even with this, the most you can put into a PS4 is still 2TB, right?

You can put a 4TB SSD in for about $1400..
TheAngryMonkey
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(10-13-2016, 06:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sword Of Doom

Xb1 USB load times are faster right?

Why are people saying this without waiting for some data? Of course SSD's will finally get utilized, but HDD and SSHD won't see a difference?

Load times are abysmal right now with SATA 2 even for HDDs


Load times on USB aren't faster because USB3 is faster than SATAII, they're faster because you're not sharing time with the OS doing other things on the same disk.

Also, HDD/SSHD won't benefit greatly from SATAIII for a few reasons. Biggest reason, SSDs don't just beat out old spinners in raw throughput, their real benefit is in reading and writing small files. The very best HDD/SSHD simply cannot compete with even the worst SSD when it comes to handling small files are multiple requests for different files. There is no seek time on an SSD like there is for a spinning drive. While it's true that an SSD will saturate a SATAII link easily, it'll also be able to utilize more of the available bandwidth doing whatever is asked of it, a spinner won't.
GearFourth
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(10-13-2016, 06:33 PM)
SSD is still too expensive not worth it just get a 2TB HDD instead
Raybunny
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(10-13-2016, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Markitron

The Samsung 1TB 850 Evo is around 300 here, am I not looking in the right places and/or is there a cheaper alternative?

http://www.ldlc.com/informatique/pie...l960h1920.html

You got some options. But not far off.

I would go Corsair MLC drives all day long though.
10k
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(10-13-2016, 06:52 PM)
This just sold me the console. Fuck yes!
cackhyena
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(10-13-2016, 06:55 PM)
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Scorpio has to follow suit, right?
disastermouse
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(10-13-2016, 06:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Dio

I guess I'm buying one now when I get the chance.

I was on the fence before, but this is the clincher, I think.

Well...shit. I think I'm in for one now too, sooner or later.
ethomaz
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(10-13-2016, 06:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Kilau

From the folks that are hacking the PS4

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...the-linux-demo

From what I understood this claim come because the SATA controller chip used can be linked to USB3 lames but Sony can attach the chip to SATA controller too.

I mean... I read about this talk but nobody can provide evidencies it is using USB lames instead SATA or PCI-E lames.

Originally Posted by FZW

Thats a pretty huge obstacle to overcome, think ill pass. Like a previous poster said wake me up when Sony comes with a more practical storage solution.

More practical storage solution?

What is more practical than upgrade an HDD (for storage) or SDD (for speeds)???
SillyJoe
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(10-13-2016, 06:59 PM)
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Get your monies ready
lumi7890
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(10-13-2016, 07:00 PM)
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yay.
ethomaz
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(10-13-2016, 07:01 PM)

Originally Posted by oni-link

Excuse my ignorance, but even with this, the most you can put into a PS4 is still 2TB, right?

HDD? 2TF
SSD? 4TF+
ethomaz
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(10-13-2016, 07:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Sword Of Doom

Xb1 USB load times are faster right?

Because you have two separated sources to get data... internal HDD for cache/SO and external for gaming data... so it will be faster because you can read/write both at the same time.

Originally Posted by Sword Of Doom

Why are people saying this without waiting for some data? Of course SSD's will finally get utilized, but HDD and SSHD won't see a difference?

Load times are abysmal right now with SATA 2 even for HDDs

SATA2 is faster than all HDD or SSHD... so it won't make difference at all for HDDs or SSHDs.

SSDs are faster than SATA2... so it will get the boost with SATA3.
JohnnyFootball
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(10-13-2016, 07:18 PM)
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Id get an SSD, but there is no way in hell I'd go balls to the wall with a high end one. A cheap brand like Corsair or Crucial should be amazing.

A Samsung (best of the best) would be better served in my PC.
JohnnyFootball
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(10-13-2016, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by oni-link

Excuse my ignorance, but even with this, the most you can put into a PS4 is still 2TB, right?

No, the firmware has been updated to allow support for 4TB.

But you will need the NYKO addon, which makes it look TURRIBLE.
StereoVsn
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(10-13-2016, 07:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raybunny

http://www.ldlc.com/informatique/pie...l960h1920.html

You got some options. But not far off.

I would go Corsair MLC drives all day long though.

A bit lower end drives like Crucial or Sandisk will more gen suffice for a console and 1tb will be under $200 on BF/Cyber Monday.
michaelius
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(10-13-2016, 07:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by cackhyena

Scorpio has to follow suit, right?

What would be the point of that ?

Are they even supporting HDD swaping in xbox one ?
JohnnyFootball
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(10-13-2016, 07:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by StereoVsn

A bit lower end drives like Crucial or Sandisk will more gen suffice for a console and 1tb will be under $200 on BF/Cyber Monday.

What would be nice is if Sony could get External drives up and running so that people could get a smaller SSDs and transfer the games they are playing at the moment over to the SSD.
Bebpo
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(10-13-2016, 07:33 PM)
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How easy is changing out the HDD? I did it with PS3 and it was easy, but never tried with ps4 because 500gb was enough. But for SSD I can see it worth changing out.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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(10-13-2016, 07:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by JohnnyFootball

What would be nice is if Sony could get External drives up and running so that people could get a smaller SSDs and transfer the games they are playing at the moment over to the SSD.

I would love to have external drive support... on top of having my 2TB Firecuda internal drive in my PS4 Pro. :)
michaelius
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(10-13-2016, 07:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bebpo

How easy is changing out the HDD? I did it with PS3 and it was easy, but never tried with ps4 because 500gb was enough. But for SSD I can see it worth changing out.

As easy as in PS3 I'd say - only weird part is why you need PS4 firmware on pendrive for the whole process?
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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(10-13-2016, 07:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kleegamefan

That $120 2TB Firecuda Hybrid SSHDD is mine muahahahaha


I'll fricking preorder it. Lol
horkrux
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(10-13-2016, 07:45 PM)
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Still won't support TRIM I think? Or wouldn't that be much of a problem? I'm kind of hesitant because of that :/
Adam M
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(10-13-2016, 07:50 PM)
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Hopefully it can reach 500-600 MB/s read speed which is good enough for a comfortable loading time in games. Of course people with PCIe based SSDs will still complaining but there are always malcontent people..
Banjo-Kazooie
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(10-13-2016, 07:51 PM)
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Oh hell yes.
SolidSnakeUS
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(10-13-2016, 07:54 PM)
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I wonder if the FireCuda is the only reliable product from Seagate. But what I like is, is that the FireCuda has a 5 year warranty to go along with it. If it can be had for $120 and be a reliable drive, then fuck yeah getting one.

I do wonder if they will be out before November 10th (PS4 Pro release date).
Mar Nosso
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(10-13-2016, 08:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Lightning Count

Anyone want to buy a 2014 PS4 in the UK? Just kidding I will keep it as a backup.

I was on the fence about PS4 Pro but not anymore after reading this.

Sold mine for 200 yesterday on Ebay ;)
dh4niel
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(10-13-2016, 08:10 PM)
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It should come with one installed but I guess they gotta get the price down.

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