The problem with the Assault Rifle is you can't defend yourself with it at any distance. You're a sitting duck at anything other than fully up close. Bungie helped remedy this somewhat with the inclusion of the magnum, and I think that's a fine starting combination for some of the maps. But with any map that has any sort of longer sight lines, the AR/mangum start is useless.The Antitype said:
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Halo:CE Anniversary Announced (MS Conf, Nov 15th 2011, $40)
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godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Some work still needs to be done on them or else I don't know how they would keep some animations. Even if the slightest animation is altered. It would be hard for them to synchronize the firefights between the different view modes.StalkerUKCG said:
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Beef up the AR a tiny amount and extend it to a close to mid to mid long range weapon.
Pistol secondary for longer distance and precession shots
Retire the DMR for the BR in Halo 4. DMR was nice but honestly a battle rifle is alot nicer, The halo 2 concept of single shot scoped and 3shot unscoped was awesome DMR-BR fusion would make a great pick up weapon for casual playlists and a starting weapon for "hardcore" playlists.
Needler rifle could use a buff but id rather they drop it in favour of something new or a carbine return.
Plasma repeater tiny buff
Plasma pistol is fine
Power weapons are good
Im personally not a fan of the scaled back sandbox. id be happy with having a huge sandbox. Humans maps with Halo 1(reach), ODST and Halo 2 Pistol. DMR and BR. AR and SMG.
Pistol secondary for longer distance and precession shots
Retire the DMR for the BR in Halo 4. DMR was nice but honestly a battle rifle is alot nicer, The halo 2 concept of single shot scoped and 3shot unscoped was awesome DMR-BR fusion would make a great pick up weapon for casual playlists and a starting weapon for "hardcore" playlists.
Needler rifle could use a buff but id rather they drop it in favour of something new or a carbine return.
Plasma repeater tiny buff
Plasma pistol is fine
Power weapons are good
Im personally not a fan of the scaled back sandbox. id be happy with having a huge sandbox. Humans maps with Halo 1(reach), ODST and Halo 2 Pistol. DMR and BR. AR and SMG.
The Antitype
Banned
ChenK said:
Sounds good to me.
The only problem is that Bungie doesn't like dividing up the population too much, cause it hurts matchmaking times.
So it wouldn't be possible to say, have Team Slayer AR, Team Slayer DMR, Team Slayer No Bloom, etc.
JdFoX187 said:
I agree with you, and I think that the DMR should be the starting weapon on larger maps, just like the BR should be a starting weapon on larger maps in Halo 2 or Halo 3.
The problem is, Bungie needs to design some weapons that are actually worth moving through the map for, aside from power weapons (shotgun, snipe, rockets, etc). Because if you don't, you'll get Hemo, which is basically just player shooting at each other across a wide open space the entire match, and that's boring as fuck.
Personally, I say make AR/DMR the starting weapons on every mode in Reach, and carry that over to Halo 4 with or without bloom.
And for Halo 4, make the BR a weapon that spawns on the map in the way the DMR currently does.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
MrBig said:
I think we get new grunt models at least i dont remember the drum shaped methane tank grunts in reach
sorry for the big image
StalkerUKCG
Banned
MrBig said:
I name thee crusher of dreams
I had hope for gold zealot models then.
You can still hope. They could always be placeholders used instead of just using the H1 models while the rest is still being worked on. The shaders looked no where near done for how far along they should be, so that makes me think that they were just made quickly while the rest of the unfinished stuff wasn't shown in the video.StalkerUKCG said:
JdFoX187 said:
So in your first post you blast the entire Halo GAF community by saying your opinion doesn't matter to them unless you have some mythical achievements in Halo, and then turn around and blast Dax or whoever for being ok with Halo 3.
ok.
At least I can admit that I don't care what bad players(ex. Dax) think.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
I will say, while I dont mind some Reach assets used, its disappointing not seeing certain enemies that were unique in look to CE. I can't remember, but were the Elites models from Reach?
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I was expecting this. The lighting in the engine Saber made looks way better than Reach though.GhaleonEB said:
The Real Napsta
Member
If we get some sort of bloom-less MP on the 7 new maps with Halo CE weapons, are most of you going to be happy?
I kinda will be, I've accepted that we aren't get actual Halo CE MP, this is the next best thing.
I kinda will be, I've accepted that we aren't get actual Halo CE MP, this is the next best thing.
PooBone said:
Certainly it's possible... but over 83 days straight of Halo CE campaign? That sounds pretty unreasonable to me. But it really doesn't matter... The point is, most people who played the game for years did so because of the multiplayer. Sure, you have your casuals who bought the game, beat it and possibly tinkered around in MP a bit. And of course, you have people like yourself who played the campaign for over FORTY days straight. But I would easily wager the major reason for the legs of CE is because of the robust and amazing MP experience.
Nobody can really argue with my statement that we are getting a butchered multiplayer component in this game. It's not even the same game as the original(MP) for one, and it has about half has many maps as the original game. It's butchered. Why should we NOT complain about this again?
To answer the above question about bloom: removing bloom is obviously a step in the right direction, imo, for making Reach play better... but it is still Reach. I still crave that CE experience online, so no I would not really be any happier.
squidhands
Member
You make it sound like a marathon session. 40 days total doesn't seem too ridiculous to be playing campaign. I've played a little over 7 days worth of Reach's campaign so far, and the game isn't even a year old.ido said:
I can't say I blame you for being upset at no MP; if things were reversed and there was MP but no campaign (updated or otherwise), I'd be pissed as well.
squidhands said:
I don't mean it to sound like I am implying someone sat for 83(or forty, whichever example you want to you) days and played the campaign... but 1,000-2,000 hours is a fucking lot, and it's pretty safe to say that kind of campaign playthrough time is the fringe.
As strange as it sounds... I would honestly be more pleased than I am now if it was MP only, since that is where the majority of my time will be spent anyway. I've played the campaign through so many times already... But with MP, every single game is a new game, so it is always entertaining to me.
TacticalFox88
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*SIIIIIIIIGH*GhaleonEB said:
Now that's fucking annoying.
The Real Napsta
Member
What do you guys need campaign theater for? I don't think I have ever used it.
The Real Napsta
Member
Falagard said:
I'm asking what you use it for because I'm curious.
J-Roderton
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The Real Napsta said:
Halo campaigns have all the cool scenery man.
I remember taking so many shots from Halo 3 campaign.
PooBone
Member
I don't really mind the AA's for the most part because they're fairly balanced, but I do prefer team classic over all other playlists. Bungie took some risks with their last hoorah in the series. Some of the risks paid off, some didn't, oh well. 343 can learn from it all.thezerofire said:
I do really miss the 4 shot kill. Went and played some Halo 2 multiplayer on PC and damn it feels good. Kills come so naturally. If it took 3 shots instead of 4 to drop shields in Reach a lot of my complaints would be answered.
And Reach does have the worst MP maps in the series. I miss Halo 2's greatness. Where's the Turf/Relic/Colossus remakes? The thing everyone always loved and wanted more of, map interactivity, such as the gate switch on Zanzibar, Bungie never went back to, and I have no idea why. Man I think I'm gonna migrate my MP over to Halo 2 PC until Anniversary comes out.
The dual wielding worked too, in my view. You could defend yourself at close range whereas with the Assault Rifle, unless you have an aid from a grenade or melee, your death will be near from an DMR or Needle Rifle wielder. SMG/Plasma Rifle, SMG/Magnum and SMG/Plasma Pistol wrecked people fast, and capable of multiple amounts. We don't have that now, nor did we in Halo 3. The AR has to go.PooBone said:
The maps I completely agree with. We're in the same position as we were in Halo 3. Yeah, we have our diamonds in the rough, i.e. Valhalla, Standoff, Highlands, Anchor 9, but in Halo 2 you found studs everywhere. You found them in 4v4 games, you found them in Big Team Battle - in Slayer, Skirmish, BTB, Doubles Team, etc. It's truly spoiled us, I think.
PooBone
Member
Dual wielding and the damn sword. Remove those two elements and you have the best competitive multiplayer game of all time, on any system. And the reason I say that about dual wielding is because it messed with the ability to quickly grenade/melee opponents. Also, you don't start with two weapons, and with a single SMG you're worse off than if you had an AR at spawn.JdFoX187 said:
ElRenoRaven
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PooBone said:
No. If you do that and then remove that stupid ass rocket lock on that it had for every damn vehicle and tone down the auto aim and then it would have been perfect.
I truly believe that Halo 3 was perfect except the equipment and lack of fall damage. Had Halo 3 not had the equipment and had that fall damage it would have been perfect. There would not have been any way to improve upon the Halo formula at all.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
For me Halo 2 had the perfect movement speed ect, Add in an assault rifle to replace smg spawns but keep smgs for close range destructive power.
Halo 2 pistol was nice but replace that with the reach pistol.
That would be the perfect multiplayer for me.
Halo 2 pistol was nice but replace that with the reach pistol.
That would be the perfect multiplayer for me.
A single SMG and AR are equally bad. They're good at finishing up kills, but if you're met with a good user or a BR wielder, you're toast. Nothing else. They're more akin to an annoying gnat that simply won't go away. Dual wielding, at least, had its positives that wrecked players up close. The Halo 3/Reach AR can't do that quickly enough without help from melee or grenade.PooBone said:
You mean the dependent on host reliability BR? Or the horrid Assault Rifle, or abundance of poor maps. It also destroyed the Assault gametype, which was pure amazement. I admit it was less glitchy, but that's the only thing I liked over it.PsychoRaven said:
Rocket lock-on was fine for the speedy vehicles and low splash damage. Now if Halo 3's Rocket had lock-on, yeah that would be bad. It's splash damage was 2x as Halo 2's. But they didn't need that, they had their own vehicle/infantry sniper rebellion: Spartan Laser.
PooBone
Member
ido said:
In the grand scheme of things, not I doubt a very big percentage of Halo 1 players lugged their shit around for LAN parties, or bothered with XBConnect. I'm a hardcore Halo player and have been since I first climbed into a warthog, and my Halo 1 playtime was at least 10 to 1 campaign > multiplayer. But I should also say that 90% of my campaign playtime was co-op. I understand in a place like a GAF forum you have more hardcore users that game a lot more and go to greater lengths to partake in their offline multiplayer, but Halo 1 for me and probably for most people is about the campaign. It's what made masterchief a staple character in the videogame landscape.
I'm not saying I don't care that the mp offering is what it is, but my priority is and always has been the campaign. I think they are making the right choice given the time/resources/budget. Online co-op? Modern graphics? Hellz yeah!
thezerofire
Banned
I completely disagree with you on Halo 3 maps, but I guess that's your prerogative. For me standoff (especially AR starts) was the worst map in Halo up until Reach, and possibly after.Striker said:
Mr. Enigma
Member
StalkerUKCG said:
What? The Halo 2 magnum was a worthless piece of shit.
Standoff was good, while not great. But anything with AR starts in Halo 3 was generally bad. In Reach it's a better because of the Pistol, at least.thezerofire said:
Dual magnums and SMG/Magnum was at least comparable.AnEternalEnigma said:
The Halo 2 dual wield weapons usually stunk by themselves, but it's not like the weapons were anything better in games after. Assault Rifle has been a poor starting weapon, Plasma Repeater is better than Halo 3's Plasma Rifle, but still isn't a worth while weapon to hang onto. Spikers were a god awful MP addition for Brutes. SMG was unchanged from Halo 2 to 3, etc.
NullPointer
Member
Any chance of this being 60fps at all?
If not, any chance of it being a LOCKED 30fps?
If not, any chance of it being a LOCKED 30fps?
The Real Napsta
Member
AnEternalEnigma said:
Pre-1.1 update it was pretty good. The 1.1 update made it like 13 shots to kill though.
ncsuDuncan
Member
Edit: Blarg. Wrong thread.
Can't wait to hear the new soundtrack, I hope it's released as a separate album too.
Can't wait to hear the new soundtrack, I hope it's released as a separate album too.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I like to relive the moment of badassery without playing the game.The Real Napsta said:
NullPointer
Member
Then this is pointless if you're right. Here's to hoping you're wrong ;PIzayoi said:
StalkerUKCG
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Pointless by who's standards yours? For some of us 60fps isnt the be all and end all of gaming.NullPointer said:
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Izayoi said:
Didnt they say the have smoother that out, sure someone said something about that being an old build.
NullPointer
Member
I don't *need* 60fps, but I think its a fair expectation for a remastered game from 10 years ago. But if it can't even be locked to 30fps? That'd be tragic.StalkerUKCG said:
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