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Shadow of Mordor offers Ultra texture optional download, recommends 6GB VRAM @ 1080p
- Thread starter Regret Truth
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max bruh or not at all
I guess Amds new market will be affordable 5-8gb vram cards now.. This is ridiculous.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Yay... back to playing PC games on Medium-Low
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
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But in all seriousness, this may delay my 970 for one with 6/8 gigs of ram.
Betting the price jump will be stupid high, though. :/
But in all seriousness, this may delay my 970 for one with 6/8 gigs of ram.
Betting the price jump will be stupid high, though. :/
Leafhopper
Banned
Pretty sure the PS4 doesn't have VRAM that high.
3GB or greater for "high" alone? I own a 2GB GTX 670 and I just downloaded the 8 minute walkthrough on gamersyde thinking I could play it at high at the very least...
I have a 2GB R9 270 man I know.
SolarPowered
Member
3GB or greater for "high" alone? I own a 2GB GTX 670 and I just downloaded the 8 minute walkthrough on gamersyde thinking I could play it on the high setting at the very least...
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Word.
Iced_Eagle
Member
"This has all happened before, and it will all happen again."
Doom 3 released with its Ultra texture options requiring 512MB of VRAM when there was not a single card out there with that much VRAM (perhaps one workstation card, which... yeah, it's a workstation card, nobody really uses them for gaming). They basically did this to future proof the game, which is what made Doom3 a great benchmark for so long.
I welcome devs doing this. Create extremely high res assets, and release them as optional add-ons so the game continues to stand the test of time. They have those original assets anyway since they need to scale them down for consoles and other quality levels, so it's not a crazy amount of work. You shouldn't expect to be able to completely max out a game when it launches every time.
All this massive VRAM requirements is making my GTX 780 3GB already outdated for slightly more than a year of ownership.
Surely there is a method to stream in textures occasionally to stored on the graphic card instead of loading them all at once. Also unless there are many textures in 32-bit float format (those who work in compositing will know this), the large VRAM requirements is insane.
Surely there is a method to stream in textures occasionally to stored on the graphic card instead of loading them all at once. Also unless there are many textures in 32-bit float format (those who work in compositing will know this), the large VRAM requirements is insane.
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Deleted member 17706
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Not true. I have 3 cards with that amount of VRAM in my machine now
But if you mean prices coming down to mainstream levels for cards with 4GB+ VRAMthen you're probably right.
Yes. I meant "reasonably." Didn't you buy three Titans or something?
Backfoggen
Banned
Lol and people got angry at me for suggesting that their 3 gig cards won't cut it for this gen.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
It's funny. Countless threads and discussions for months on end about 2gb, 3gb being enough, about some random $500 setup blowing away the consoles and able to run next-gen games for a few years at least. It's all out the window. All of it was bs.
It's not about consoles matching VRAM requirements for PC Ultra quality textures.
The consoles have just moved up the baseline requirements.
4.5 from what i've heard on PS4 with possible optimization on that front later. That's from Digital Foundry, i don't know if they are right or not.
And yeah guys, the consoles don't have that much RAM in comparison to ultra for these sort of games at all, but the baseline limit was moved up so that the very minimum you will get from now on is most likely the console standard, which is no longer 512MB 1GB or even 2GB
Chance Hale
Member
Ultra settings are beyond the console versions, and they likely don't have tessellation and are inferior in other ways. Game is out in 4 days, we'll see shortly how it compares and how much their 6GB recommendation matters.
wait... why are people all of a sudden acting like PS4 / XB1 versions will be like playing these games on ultra with these "glad I bought a PS4 instead of a computer lol" comments?
Wont the game even on medium/high still be the same or better than the consoles as usual?
Wont the game even on medium/high still be the same or better than the consoles as usual?
Thaumaturgic Tomato
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Our Dark Lord Sauron will be remembered not for the One Ring, but for being the One who finally kicked PC's out of 2007.
May a new GPU race usher in 4k and humane prices. 5% annual speed bumps a thing of the past. Thanks, Sauron.
I wish.
May a new GPU race usher in 4k and humane prices. 5% annual speed bumps a thing of the past. Thanks, Sauron.
I wish.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Real talk, willing to do a forced 30 for max settings AC4 style.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I'm aware the ultra settings are higher than console settings. The post was in a broad context, not about this specific game (the post I quoted was about the gen as a whole).
GHG
Gold Member
Just cancelled my 670 sli order.
With this and the evil withins requirements I think it's time for a rethink. May wait for the 8gb versions or nab 2 780 6gbs on a sale.
If this is what's needed at 1080p what the hell does it mean for people who want to down sample.
No wonder the PC version of GTA has been delayed. The shitstorm will be epic when the requirements for that game are announced.
With this and the evil withins requirements I think it's time for a rethink. May wait for the 8gb versions or nab 2 780 6gbs on a sale.
If this is what's needed at 1080p what the hell does it mean for people who want to down sample.
No wonder the PC version of GTA has been delayed. The shitstorm will be epic when the requirements for that game are announced.
More open world and higher resolution textures = high VRAM requirements. There were already end of generation games that were easily hitting the cap. I'm far from a genius on the top, but it was obvious that VRAM requirements were going to double or triple.
Smart move. Anyone kicking themselves over this should've seen it coming rather than convincing themselves that 2-4 gigs was going to max out next-gen games. It's just going to keep going down this road. Can't wait to see what PC performance and IQ looks like a couple of years from now. When is the whole "unified memory" thing happening again?
VibratingDonkey
Member
My 780 couldn't even run the game (Watch Dogs) it came bundled with properly. 3GB not enough for highest texture resolutions, the skipping made it unplayable. Looks like this might continue being an issue. Nvidia is dumb.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I guess the reasoning is more in line of "for the money I need to run this on High/Ultra, I'm glad I got a PS4"
We should probably be expecting 'high' resolution textures with a general mix of 'high' graphical settings in comparison to the PC version on PS4 at 1080p 30fps on this game.
Chance Hale
Member
Nothing has changed in regards to mid-end cards being able to run games at console equivalent settings so far.
Yay... back to playing PC games on Medium-Low
Hahah
GravityMan
Member
I'll want to see (a) screenshot comparisons of High vs. Ultra and (b) benchmarks at High and Ultra.
I suspect that High and Ultra textures will look similar to each other in the eyes of most of us. Ultra's clearly meant for enthusiasts and for future proofing. Shadow of Mordor should still look very good on High, likely better than PS4.
Some of you need to chill. Your shiny new GTX 970 isn't obsolete.
I suspect that High and Ultra textures will look similar to each other in the eyes of most of us. Ultra's clearly meant for enthusiasts and for future proofing. Shadow of Mordor should still look very good on High, likely better than PS4.
Some of you need to chill. Your shiny new GTX 970 isn't obsolete.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Sadly, it wasn't obvious to a lot of people here. For example, legacyzero got rekt by listening to the 2gb is enough crowd. Even 3 isn't enough.
First of all, why would you want to play at console equivalent settings for the price we're paying? Second, the PS4 version is running at 1080p/60fps. I wouldn't be surprised if it's equivalent to high settings on PC.
Yeah, it doesn't. But still, short answer: Yes, that's the reason.
Longer answer: Developers can do a lot more with Ultra settings on the PC now that they aren't as constrained by 512mb RAM consoles. It's a lot easier to scale up further when the PS4 & XB1 are the baseline. Mordor is technically cross-gen, but the last gen versions were outsourced and apparently have stuff gutted from them. It's more like pseudo-cross gen so the developers weren't so quite as held back by it.
Basically, the PS4 & XB1 are a *huge* boon for people who love high end PC settings.
So glad I went 4 gig on my 770
You game is still gonna look better than on the PS4, you're just not going to be able to max it out like you got quad titans or something. That's okay.
IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
The game runs at 60 fps on PS4.
And while it makes sense to assume that the PC version will be superior in most ways, it's far from a guarantee.
nextgeneration
Member
Works for me. The steeper the requirements, the better, as we need to advance pc graphic tech forward.
I highly doubt PS4 is running the equivalent of ultra textures on PC.
Chance Hale
Member
Your video card is 2 and a half years old, why should you be able to run everything at max settings without performance issues?
I'm sure 2-3 gigs will hold out alright for another year or so, but it's not and "if it will be enough" it's "when will it not be enough."
Duxxy3
Member
Eh, it was expected.
Developers were making games for consoles with a maximum of 512MB of ram. Now they have 10 times that in the new consoles. Nobody should be surprised that ram requirements skyrocketed.
GHG
Gold Member
I told people this would happen as soon as the multiplatform games for the new consoles start hitting. They port from the console versions more often than not and if the engine is designed around 6gb of usable RAM then PC's with low amounts of VRAM are bound to struggle. They are scaling up from 6gb now, not from 512mb. It's logical.
We actually saw the exact same thing happen at the start of last gen. GPU power wasn't the biggest constraint from the PC perspective, it was the VRAM requirements. Anyone with less that 512mb of VRAM was screwed immediately.
We actually saw the exact same thing happen at the start of last gen. GPU power wasn't the biggest constraint from the PC perspective, it was the VRAM requirements. Anyone with less that 512mb of VRAM was screwed immediately.